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== encourage em to start with domestic region ==
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I think that one of the first things we need to ask a newcomer is to verify an article for the countries, areas and cities he lives in / knows most of all. With the current state of our [[Wikitravel talk:Project#Retaining users|User retain ratio]] (which is pretty low), most contributions we have right now are from people who had a single (and pretty short) visit to some place, got much pieces of practical info, generalized them a bit (I saw that myself/heard about one case => it should be so usually so)--and never coming back to discuss/revise/argument/specify. This is where we need locals of that country: they rarely know what travellers to their country should be informed of (unless they're professionally in tourism industry)--but they can easily verify and fix what other people say about their country. Even before something like [[Wikitravel talk:Manual of style#Requests for information in article content|"verify" marks]] will be implemented on Wikitravel, just reading few content pages from beginning to end is a good start.
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This doesn't necessarily apply to US and UK (there's enough recurring users from that countries to discuss every piece of info), but I would definitely vote for that for other countries.
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Personally I'm about 1.5 years with Wikitravel contributing bits and pieces on countries I visit for a week or two, but only recently I red carefully [[Russia]] and [[Moscow]], and it needs major revision in non-sightseeing stuff like Money, StaySafe etc--not to mention all the listings. I could started much earlier if someone suggest that in the beginning--let's start doing so for every newcomer?
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What do you think? --[[User:DenisYurkin|DenisYurkin]] 16:34, 25 November 2006 (EST)
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==Thank you for your cordial and helpful welcome==
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''Archived from the [[Pub]]'':
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on my user talk page! I realise it was probably a bot, but nevertheless I wish to thank and congratulate you for taking the time and care to create it.
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I shall now wizz off (as you suggested) to the pub to ask for assistance on changing the position of the ToC on pages. [Drop me a line if you ever think you'll be in Glasgow...][[User:W. Frank|W. Frank]] 08:38, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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:It wasn't a bot. Sapphire is [[User:Sapphire|Andrew H.]], who is very much a human, and you are really welcome here. This is the right place to ask questions, but about the position of the ToC on pages, right now the position is that users can't personalise, because we cache for performance reasns. Most people are unhappy about the amount of whitespace it consumes, but at some point in the past when it was changed so that the ToC came up on the right, outside the main body, it caused a major storm. Now the issue is being discussed in the talk page of [[Wikitravel:Table of contents location]], but the discussion has been dormant for some time, and there have been no changes on them. — [[User:Ravikiran r|Ravikiran]] 08:51, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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::Thanks pal! You've saved me starting a redundant thread (I was very worried about the ugliness of pages and waste of trees caused by all that white space but I guess the predominant ethos here is an 'american' attitude to resources). [[User:W. Frank|W. Frank]] 09:07, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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::Congratulations [[User:Ravikiran r|Ravikiran]] on your recent wedding! May you both be blessed! [[User:W. Frank|W. Frank]] 09:11, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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:::I'm a bot!? -- [[User:Sapphire|Sapphirebot]] 13:51, 1 March 2007.
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:::Resistance is useless. You, too, will be assimilated. [[User:Jpatokal|J-bot-okal]] 12:47, 8 March 2007 (EST)
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::::If you are, then I'd like to report some bugs in your shiny deletion button algorithm. -- [[User:Cjensen|Colin]] 15:00, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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:::::Those have already been reported and solved, I think. -- [[User:Sapphire|Sapphire]] • <small>([[User_talk:Sapphire|Talk]])</small> • 15:10, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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:::Thanks Frank! &mdash; [[User:Ravikiran r|Ravikiran]] 22:19, 7 March 2007 (EST)
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So I was browsing YouTube this evening and for some, unwieldy reason, I decided to search for "Wikitravel". I stumbled across one [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdZQ3gn7lJo video] (I know there's a page somewhere on WT which lists media mentions), and got an idea...since new users have such a hard time figuring out the proper way of adding, what to add, etc. even with all the pages about this, should we make a video? How about an "Introduction to Wikitravel" ''no more than 2 minutes long'' which just goes over the basics like how to edit, MoS, don't tout, goals and non-goals, etc? I know we've got a lot of things going on with the new routeboxes and making  a video would take someone a bit of time, but would it be worth it? This is just a thought...I'm not intent that we do this, it's just a thought. [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] 20:05, 16 December 2008 (EST)
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:I think it would be a great idea.  But I also think we should keep what we got.  Just so people could have a visual/hear aid and it would get people revved on editing.  Personally, I wouldn't use it because I find vid tutorials have wayyy too small screeen and I can't get anything so I just use word tutorials.  But for others, other people seem to like it.  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 20:44, 16 December 2008 (EST).
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::I did '''not''' suggest getting rid of the pages...just make a short video to summarize those pages. [[User:AHeneen|AHeneen]] 20:56, 16 December 2008 (EST)
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:::Bud, I am not '''accusing''' you, ok?  I am not turning it on you.  All Imma saying is that we should still have the normal pages along with a vid - I didn't accuse you.  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 21:52, 16 December 2008 (EST).

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See Wikitravel:Welcome message for the message used to welcome new users.


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Welcome[edit]

Hello, Welcome, newcomers! Welcome to Wikitravel.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Wikitravel:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.


encourage em to start with domestic region[edit]

I think that one of the first things we need to ask a newcomer is to verify an article for the countries, areas and cities he lives in / knows most of all. With the current state of our User retain ratio (which is pretty low), most contributions we have right now are from people who had a single (and pretty short) visit to some place, got much pieces of practical info, generalized them a bit (I saw that myself/heard about one case => it should be so usually so)--and never coming back to discuss/revise/argument/specify. This is where we need locals of that country: they rarely know what travellers to their country should be informed of (unless they're professionally in tourism industry)--but they can easily verify and fix what other people say about their country. Even before something like "verify" marks will be implemented on Wikitravel, just reading few content pages from beginning to end is a good start.

This doesn't necessarily apply to US and UK (there's enough recurring users from that countries to discuss every piece of info), but I would definitely vote for that for other countries.

Personally I'm about 1.5 years with Wikitravel contributing bits and pieces on countries I visit for a week or two, but only recently I red carefully Russia and Moscow, and it needs major revision in non-sightseeing stuff like Money, StaySafe etc--not to mention all the listings. I could started much earlier if someone suggest that in the beginning--let's start doing so for every newcomer?

What do you think? --DenisYurkin 16:34, 25 November 2006 (EST)

Thank you for your cordial and helpful welcome[edit]

Archived from the Pub:

on my user talk page! I realise it was probably a bot, but nevertheless I wish to thank and congratulate you for taking the time and care to create it.

I shall now wizz off (as you suggested) to the pub to ask for assistance on changing the position of the ToC on pages. [Drop me a line if you ever think you'll be in Glasgow...]W. Frank 08:38, 7 March 2007 (EST)

It wasn't a bot. Sapphire is Andrew H., who is very much a human, and you are really welcome here. This is the right place to ask questions, but about the position of the ToC on pages, right now the position is that users can't personalise, because we cache for performance reasns. Most people are unhappy about the amount of whitespace it consumes, but at some point in the past when it was changed so that the ToC came up on the right, outside the main body, it caused a major storm. Now the issue is being discussed in the talk page of Wikitravel:Table of contents location, but the discussion has been dormant for some time, and there have been no changes on them. — Ravikiran 08:51, 7 March 2007 (EST)
Thanks pal! You've saved me starting a redundant thread (I was very worried about the ugliness of pages and waste of trees caused by all that white space but I guess the predominant ethos here is an 'american' attitude to resources). W. Frank 09:07, 7 March 2007 (EST)
Congratulations Ravikiran on your recent wedding! May you both be blessed! W. Frank 09:11, 7 March 2007 (EST)
I'm a bot!? -- Sapphirebot 13:51, 1 March 2007.
Resistance is useless. You, too, will be assimilated. J-bot-okal 12:47, 8 March 2007 (EST)
If you are, then I'd like to report some bugs in your shiny deletion button algorithm. -- Colin 15:00, 7 March 2007 (EST)
Those have already been reported and solved, I think. -- Sapphire(Talk) • 15:10, 7 March 2007 (EST)
Thanks Frank! — Ravikiran 22:19, 7 March 2007 (EST)

Video[edit]

Archived from the Pub:

So I was browsing YouTube this evening and for some, unwieldy reason, I decided to search for "Wikitravel". I stumbled across one video (I know there's a page somewhere on WT which lists media mentions), and got an idea...since new users have such a hard time figuring out the proper way of adding, what to add, etc. even with all the pages about this, should we make a video? How about an "Introduction to Wikitravel" no more than 2 minutes long which just goes over the basics like how to edit, MoS, don't tout, goals and non-goals, etc? I know we've got a lot of things going on with the new routeboxes and making a video would take someone a bit of time, but would it be worth it? This is just a thought...I'm not intent that we do this, it's just a thought. AHeneen 20:05, 16 December 2008 (EST)

I think it would be a great idea. But I also think we should keep what we got. Just so people could have a visual/hear aid and it would get people revved on editing. Personally, I wouldn't use it because I find vid tutorials have wayyy too small screeen and I can't get anything so I just use word tutorials. But for others, other people seem to like it. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 20:44, 16 December 2008 (EST).
I did not suggest getting rid of the pages...just make a short video to summarize those pages. AHeneen 20:56, 16 December 2008 (EST)
Bud, I am not accusing you, ok? I am not turning it on you. All Imma saying is that we should still have the normal pages along with a vid - I didn't accuse you. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 21:52, 16 December 2008 (EST).

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