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Editing Coorg page
I'm trying to edit the iteneriary section and add the below text and it's triggering a spam filter. The roads leading to Talavauvery is pretty bad after the recent rains.--Gowthammano 05:32, 17 January 2011 (EST)
thebrightonremovalcompany dot co dot uk
I'm not sure if it's a bot or a real person, but this hauling company has spammed us with advertisement articles twice in the last two hours. It's in no way travel-related, so adding to the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:15, 18 January 2011 (EST)
palazzogiovanni dot it
See Special:Contributions/Silvio77. User has returned repeatedly over the last two days to push a link to articles ranging from towns to Italy and even to Europe. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:23, 20 January 2011 (EST)
explorenorthkorea dot com
Oanvoanc 10:28, 26 January 2011 (EST):as i mentioned in the "discussion paragraph" of northkorea - tours already: i travelled with explore n. korea tour group in march 2010 and had no problems with them. the communication was very good (skype and mail) before and after the trip. i have no idea what happened here exactly with this url (adding and removing) but i wouldnt hesitate to recommend this company for ppl who want to travel nk on small budged.
This business is now trying to evade the blacklist by using URL redirectors (e.g. ) rather than cleaning up their act, so I'm expanding the pattern a bit. User has a long and exceedingly annoying history, and has also started using proxies to (thinly) disguise their activities; it's pretty easy to find on almost any edit to the Tours section dating back to roughly October 2009, and you'll find a lot of the early mischief from Special:Contributions/22.214.171.124, before the evasion really started. — D. Guillaime 20:26, 27 January 2011 (EST)
shanghaipathways dot com
Keeps re-adding fairly spammy entries to Shanghai that aren't at all tour-compliant (example: ), even after being pointed at it on their comment on Talk:Shanghai#Deletion. Hoping this gets their attention instead; shouldn't need to stay in place forever. — D. Guillaime 01:30, 1 February 2011 (EST)
cheapoair dot com
This is a bucket site that will never be appropriate for use here per Wikitravel:External links. See Special:Contributions/126.96.36.199 - user replaced numerous valid hotel URLs with this one. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:55, 7 February 2011 (EST)
I tried to edit this page originally adding the Dalai Lama's website www dot dalailama dot com I got the spam error. Assuming it was because of the URL I entered I hit the back button and removed this url. Saved again and was still getting the spam error. So went back and took out all URL's (which I didn't enter) noticed some were of businesses so this may have caused the spam notification. Though even after deleting all URLs page would not save. Don't know what else to do about it other than post it here. The specific section was the 'To Do' section Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Himalayafunandtours (talk • contribs)
apnabus dot in
This is apparently an Indian ticket broker and thus not appropriate per Wikitravel:External links and the Tour policy. User has ignored talk page messages and returned after temporary blocks to spam dozens of pages, so it's time to put this on the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:02, 26 March 2011 (EDT)
scorpiotech dot info
creditcardhelp dot com dot au
Born Vardan Vardanovich Kushnir November 22, 1969 Armenia Died July 24, 2005 (aged 35) Moscow Cause of death Murder Occupation Spammer
Vardan Vardanovich Kushnir (November 22, 1969 – July 24, 2005) was a notorious spammer of Armenian-Jewish descent who ran the American Language Center (ALC) and who is believed to have spammed the entire population of Russian-language Internet users with ads for his language courses. Kushnir was murdered in 2005.
According to some estimates, his ads reached 25 million users at his peak, between 2003 and 2004. Although only Muscovites were eligible to sign up, the ads went to many other countries, including Ukraine, the United States and Israel.
Over the course of 2004 his output began to fall. He was almost completely forced off public email systems and resorted instead to using pager network ICQ.
Public opprobrium against him was so great that his personal information was widely posted throughout the internet. The country's deputy minister of communications, Andrey Korotkov, recorded a message urging Kushnir to stop what he was doing, and Golden Telecom, one of the country's larger Internet Service Providers, set up a computer that dialed ALC's telephone numbers continuously, playing Korotkov's message. The company's website also became the target of DDOS attacks, and its phone numbers were posted anywhere and everywhere on the Russian-language web, as contacts for anything from sex to cheap real estate.
During 2002-2005 Kushnir and his company attempted to use RiNet ISP for connectivity but was turned away numerous times and finally managed to connect via a neighborhood SOHO-styled company. It is worth noting that Kushnir did not send E-mail spam directly from his connection.
A lawyer named Anton Sergo filed a complaint with the Antitrust Authority which oversees advertising in Russia. Kushnir at first snubbed the hearings, until proceedings were started against him for noncompliance. He finally showed up and said he had no idea who was sending the ads. The complaint was dismissed.
Legal sanctions against him weren't limited to Russia. In April 2001, the state of Kansas ordered him and an associate, Florida resident Michael Walker, to stop their spam-promotion of stock in Sophim Inc., on the grounds that not only was Sophim not registered at the time, but neither he nor Walker were licensed brokers.
Those who knew him attributed his spamming, which his ALC partner disapproved of and which did not really generate much business for the center, to megalomania: "He only did it because he was obsessed with it. He wanted to be somebody, to be recognized somehow. So he way overdid it."
According to former employees, he was strongly influenced by Scientology and made hiring decisions based on the results of a 400-item questionnaire derived from a Scientology text. Murder
On Sunday July 24, 2005, Kushnir was murdered at home, and his body was removed from the three-room apartment he shared with his mother on Sadovaya-Karetnaya Street in central Moscow. An autopsy determined that he had died after suffering repeated blows to the head. According to police, his apartment and personal belongings had been ransacked. They did not believe the killing was related to his spamming. Traces of a strong tranquilizer were found in a glass, therefore investigators theorize it was merely a robbery gone bad.
Lending credence to this theory, he was last seen alive as he was leaving the Hungry Duck in the company of three women, who may have administered the fatal beating when he woke prematurely from his spiked drink.
The Russian media could scarcely conceal their glee at Kushnir's death, since his spam overloaded many of the country's inboxes. His spam, and others, had also led to many servers blocking all emails from the .ru domain, hindering Russian users' ability to connect with the rest of the world. While he was not the sole source of Russia's spam problem, he personified it to many both within and outside Russia.
In August 2005, Russian media reported the Moscow criminal investigation directorate detained four people it claimed were involved in the homicide. The four claim Kushnir made sexual advances to one of them, a 15-year-old girl, then threatened another in the group who came to her defense. The latter then claimed to have struck Kushnir on the head in self-defense.
capezebratours dot com and capeafricantours dot com
Links to this company were copied to numerous articles for South Africa, with at least four separate entries in the Cape Town article. Since then they have returned to add multiple entries to the Cape Town article at least a dozen times, despite pointers provided on user talk pages and in edit summaries to the Wikitravel:Don't tout policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:36, 3 May 2011 (EDT)
See Special:Contributions/188.8.131.52. This Facebook group has been re-added to the Buenos Aires article five or six times in the past two days despite repeated pointers to the Wikitravel:External links policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:22, 17 May 2011 (EDT)
www dot butterfly-massage dot com
www dot shanghai-in-massge dot com
Talk:Tajpur notes on an edit/s and west bengal scamming activity
Upon tracking a suspect tel number to another article I came across the Tajpur article today. The entire Tajpur article seems a little dubious. It has the appearance of having been established for the purpose of listing either entriely fictitious or baiting accommodation listings attributable to known listing hijackers and listing vandals associated with articles in this region. I have removed the offending number and noted that the edit histories had evidence of another scammer involved with the article. I have now applied some generalised copy editing to the article to clean it up but it is still a bit questionable. I note that on (07:46) 17 May 2009 ChubbyWimbus raised some concerns aboout this article.
Upon examination of the various articles concerned and their edit and content history it appears that the contact numbers used have been those associated with previous misleading or hijack edits in various West Bengal articles.
Today I have made edits to the article and some others today that are displaying similar lineage and number commonalities I have removed +91 33 8100291011 from Hotel Sonarbangla Resorts in the Tajpur article as this tel number has beeen listed the Rojana Beach Resorts listing in Digha and removed in an edit today for that reason. The previous listing for Safarsonhee in this Tajpur article was removed by Peterfitzgerald on 11 oct 2010). The prior Safarsonhee listing used a number 90spamfilter51115228 listed to Safarsongee Tours & Travels, Kolkata, Telephone: (033) 4004spamfilter8685, 90spamfilter51115228, Address: 9B, Esplanade , Kolkata-700069, West Bengal. The Hotel Amorabati-Bakkhali has also frequently been listed to 90spamfilter51115228 on travel websites
As I know the activities of the west bengal idiots are of interest to others I thought this may be of interest here.felix 06:40, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
West Bengal scammer +91 33 8100291011
Maybe it's time for this idiots number to be spam blacklisted-- felix 10:53, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
Here are some more: -- felix 15:09, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
cbho_info@yahoodotcom and cbhoinfo@gmaildotcom have an established pattern with scammer numbers and multiple listings ie. Shankarpur Hotel Sandy Bay, cbho_info@yahoodotcom, Jhargram Mps Resort, ☎ 033 9433585945 cbho_info@yahoodotcom, Falta Hotel Sea Bird +91 033 9831254202 cbhoinfo@gmaildotcom also +91 33 943358 5945
Eastern Tourism of 190A, Harish Mukherjee Road, Kolkata - 700 026 has a scammer profile with multiple listing and relisting of +91 33 2455 1491 Other numbers listed to this enterprise include
ukraine vacation guide dot com
Mass spamming of various Ukraine articles. Examination of site reveals no content that could ever be useful at WT --Burmesedays 06:13, 23 June 2011 (EDT).
vietnamairlinestickets dot com
This URL has shown up repeatedly in several Southeast Asia articles over the past week. It's a booking portal - the URL for Vietnam Airlines is http://vietnamairlines.com - and the users in question are ignoring requests to stop re-adding this URL. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:26, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
motorbiketours-hoian dot com
Touristdriver.aqaba at gmail.com
This tax driver has been adding lengthy advertisements to various Jordan articles and ignoring pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout. See Special:Contributions/184.108.40.206 and Special:Contributions/Jouli for some examples. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:55, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
kuakatatours dot com
There have been several new articles created in the past twelve hours that do not meet the Wikitravel:What is an article criteria. The user in question hasn't responded to talk page messages so I'm putting the tour company URL he/she has been using on the blacklist in the hopes of getting his/her attention. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:36, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
wadirumdiscovery dot com
This tour company has ignored repated requests not to list itself multiple times (per Wikitravel:Don't tout), and has now started removing competitor listings from the Wadi Rum article. See for example Special:Contributions/Momo2010. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:05, 31 July 2011 (EDT)
bandarbantours dot com
User has ignored many messages and continues to create spam articles designed to promote this travel agency.--Burmesedays 07:36, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
taxi-makarska dot com
See Special:Contributions/Ijujnovic. There has been a long running edit war going on over Makarska. Initially requests were made to de-tout a listing, and eventually to discuss before re-adding. Adding to the blacklist now to prevent further edit warring. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:32, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
easyrider dot vn and easy-riders dot net
See Special:Contributions/Easyridervietnam (amongst others). Talk page messages and edit summary pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout have been ignored repeatedly over the past couple of weeks. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:22, 12 September 2011 (EDT)
tripz dot advisor
internetmarketingdirect dot com dot au
Repeated SEO spam on User talk:IM2011Direct. Ironically, the spam was touting the company's "white hat" strategies, but doing so by spamming a travel wiki. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:08, 28 September 2011 (EDT)
This travel agency has been spamming Agra and other random pages daily for the past week. Edit summary pointers and talk page messages pointing the user to Tour and Wikitravel:Don't tout have been ignored. -- wrh2 10:40, 11 October 2011 (EDT)
comparecarrental dot co
See (for two examples) Special:Contributions/220.127.116.11 and Special:Contributions/18.104.22.168. User has been inserting this car rental portal with misleading edit summaries. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:16, 17 October 2011 (EDT)
Rhinocarhire dot com Removal from Local Spam Blacklist Request
We are seeking feedback / support for the removal of rhinocarhire dot com from the Wikitravel talk:Local spam blacklist#Various Car Hire Agencies. We have for some time been in discussion with a moderator who has recommended that we use this platform in an attempt to gain support for our removal from the list by consensus. We found ourselves added to the list in September 2009 where the route cause was traced back to an external editor / SEO specialist who took it upon himself to spam wiki travel with our website. Upon discovering such practices, this person ceased to work for the company and has not done so since. We have explained our situation in detail, however the perception remains that we will try to use Wikitravel for our own benefit and SEO purposes, which I can assure the Wikitravel community is not the case. We run an honest business and were awarded Best Car Hire Website at the 2010 Travolution Awards, something that the team worked very hard towards and are very proud of. Our integrity has been questioned on Wikitravel to the extent where we have been labelled not trustworthy, something we find unjust and unfounded. There have also been references to 'fake blogs' that we know nothing about and have requested further information to fully investigate, however no further information has been supplied. We have no interest in self promotion of our business on Wikitravel and are not looking for recommendations, however being listed as spam is potentially damaging for our business. We have been punished by wiki travel for 2 years now (listed on the spam blacklist) and feel that continued listing as spam for actions carried out by a 3rd party on our behalf (unknown to us at the time) is not longer justifiable. We would welcome to feedback from the community on this matter as we will continue our pursuit for removal from the list. Many thanks. Rhinocarhire dot com. (22.214.171.124 09:23, 30 August 2011 (EDT))
Inas, Many thanks for you efforts in this matter. Your time is very much appreciated, as is that of Ryan who we have been dealing with also. Kind regards, Phil. Ryan - Just to note, the 'fake blogs' you mention are press releases issued by our company that are syndicated to various sites. Once published via official means we have no control which websites choose to host the press release.
I can't seem to be able to edit Globe-trotters talk page, since my message is refused by the spam filter. What am I doing wrong? I wanted to post: "Hi, I appreciate your help but since I was still working on the text I've been getting edit conflicts on South Limburg. That is making it quite harder and frustrating, so I'll just stop editing until you're done. Could you give me a heads up when you are? Justme 12:54, 30 July 2011 (EDT) "
As to that last problem, is there a way to indicate that you're working on something and ask others to not edit for a while? These edit conflicts really are frustrating.. Justme 12:54, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
holidayvacationrental dot com
See Special:Contributions/126.96.36.199 and Special:Contributions/Holidayvacationrental. There have also been several pages created for this company that have been deleted. Pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout and the rental listings policy have been ignored. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:49, 21 November 2011 (EST)
See Special:Contributions/Praveengupta, Special:Contributions/188.8.131.52, and several others. User has spammed the Agra page and several Wikitravel policy pages for the past several nights. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:26, 12 January 2012 (EST)
Idaho International Dance and Music Festival
Trying to add Rexburg/Burley Idaho International Dance and Music Festival to the page. Won't add our site:
http://www.idahofolkdance (idahofolkdance "dot" com)
places-data dot com
Repeatedly creating new user accounts (one per article), inserting this link, and removing the xl-approved tourist authority links from the top (e.g. , ). The constant new accounts is a fairly transparent way of trying to avoid notice, so there's no one account that can be given a warning first. -- D. Guillaime 01:36, 11 March 2012 (EST)
Trying to mention a bird which is coloured black and is a type of cockatoo
I tried to suggest a place to see the rare glossy blacx cocxatoo (replace the x with k to get the correct meaning).
My update was rejected because it was taken as a black male's appendage. Is there a way around this?
Thanks. All good now. Derdod 19:53, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
See Special:Contributions/Surfing.mentawai and the history for Mentawai Islands. User has been asked repeatedly not to add multiple listings and not to advertise, but to no avail. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:53, 20 April 2012 (EDT)
holiday-in-malaysia dot com
easy-kiev dot com
See Special:Contributions/184.108.40.206 and Special:Contributions/Easy-Kiev.com. User has been given several pointers to the rental listing guidelines and is still returning multiple times a day to add this listing to the Kiev article. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:08, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
Excuse me and why this time? "Kievis dot com" is not related with "Easy-Kiev dot com". My edit didn't contain any link. I read all rules one by one: I didn't tout, I put announce in alphabetical order...I would really like to know the reason of deletion. User:Easy-Kiev; 16:02 17 July 2012 (CET)
URL ban nomination?
I am not sure how to nominate a URL for a nuisance ban. There is one (or perhaps more than one) anonymous user, from at least 2 IPs, who has repeatedly substituted the commercial website, http://bahamasbahamasbahamas.com/, for the official website of Bahamas Tourism in the Bahamas article. The aforementioned web address is the site for the Bimini Bay Resort, whose entry I will now delete from the Bimini guide, as promised, but given the repeated misbehavior of people presumably associated with this resort, I think it would be a good idea to blacklist all sites associated with that resort, site-wide. I welcome your feedback. Ikan Kekek 05:18, 28 December 2011 (EST)
krakatau-tour dot com