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* [[Wikitravel talk:Local spam blacklist/Archive 2008]]
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==Catch-all pattern==
I added the following pattern on a while back, and it seems to catch a significant amount of spam that hits that site.  The pattern will block any list of ten or more URLs of the form "" that is added - as far as I can see there shouldn't be any legitimate edits that use that pattern, but spammers do it all the time.  I'd like to add it here, but if it is found to block any legitimate edits please revert.
(http[s]?\://[^ \n\t\.]+\.[^ \n\t]+[ \n\t]+){10,}
-- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] • ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) • 12:09, 1 March 2008 (EST)
: I tweaked the pattern slightly to also ten of more URLs of the form "[] []...".  It doesn't catch links of the form "[ text] [ text]...", which is probably the next iteration that will be needed... -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] • ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) • 13:38, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
:: I wrote a new one '''<nowiki>((\[https?://(\S*\.)+\S+\ .*\]\s*)|(https?://(\S*\.)+\S+\s+)){6,}</nowiki>''' to catch '''<nowiki>[ text] []</nowiki>''' in any combination. Works perfectly in kregexpeditor, but for some reason it does not work on the blacklist if I look for 10 repetitions. Seems to work fine for 6 though.
--[[User:NJR ZA|Nick]] 09:50, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
Great. Now I need to remove all the temporary links I have at [[User:DenisYurkin]] just in order to save ''anything new'' to my user page.
Can we exclude from these banned links? --[[User:DenisYurkin|DenisYurkin]] 17:04, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
:Hopefully that would be possible using the [[Wikitravel:Local spam whitelist]]? I confess I'm not sure how best to handle this, but you're right, it would definitely be ideal to not block domain links using the (otherwise useful) catch all pattern. I'll give this a shot.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:46, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
::I think that worked!  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:50, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
:::Thanks, Peter--it works again now :-) --[[User:DenisYurkin|DenisYurkin]] 18:03, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
:::: I decreased the limit to five links in a row to combat spambots that have been hitting the site this morning - if there is any collateral damage please post the page in question so that we can try to find a workaround. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:40, 8 January 2009 (EST)
==Regex search==
Is there any way to do a search of wikitravel pages using regular expressions&mdash;to see what a pattern might catch?  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:46, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
:Try this [], scroll to the bottom for Regular expression, add your regular expression followed by '''', eg. '''/(a|A)(f|R)(r|R)(i|I)(c|C)(a|A)/''' will search for africa --[[User:NJR ZA|Nick]] 13:31, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
::I'm not sure that Exalead has worked out all the kinks of that regex search&mdash;I'm getting false positives on recent searches, and I  tested that using the blacklist.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:07, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
== Phone #? ==
Is it possible to add phone#'s to this list? If so, we should add +91<!-- --> 33 64603695. It's for a travel agency that relentlessly adds it to several hotel listings across some Indian pages &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 11:22, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
: Yes, it's possible.  The only problem is that it can be tough to account for all the ways they can mangle that number and still have it legible -- see [] for what we had to do last time. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 12:30, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
::Ugh. Japanese to me &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 20:52, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
9[ \.\-_/]*1[ \.\-_/]*3[ \.\-_/]*3[ \.\-_/]*6[ \.\-_/]*4[ \.\-_/]*6[ \.\-_/]*[0|o|O][ \.\-_/]*3[ \.\-_/]*6[ \.\-_/]*9[ \.\-_/]*5
:: I've added it:  91<!-- -->3364603695 and 9[ \.\-_/]*1[ \.\-_/]*3[ \.\-_/]*3[ \.\-_/]*6[ \.\-_/]*4[ \.\-_/]*6[ \.\-_/]*[0|o|O][ \.\-_/]*3[ \.\-_/]*6[ \.\-_/]*9[ \.\-_/]*5 --[[User:NJR ZA|Nick]] 04:56, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
:::Oh thanks Nick, just noticed this, nice work :)  I think it worked, I don't recall seeing this guy around for a while now &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 15:17, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
== z dash index ==
Just as we block "display colon none" to prevent CSS-based spam, we've been hit with a few today that use "z dash index".  As far as I'm aware none of our templates or any other valid edits would need this CSS parameter, so I've added it to the list, but please revert if it is found to block any legitimate edits. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:25, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
==Subdomains and Russian Wikitravel==
For some reason, when I list subdomains on the [[:ru:Wikitravel:Спам-фильтр|Russian blacklist]], it is blocking the main domain as well.  For example:
"best\-windows2005\.narad\.ru" blocks all instances of ""  (narod changed to narad to avoid blacklist problems).
Any ideas why this is happening?  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 09:07, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
:Never mind, figured out&mdash;it's on the [[Wikitravel:Spam filter|Main List]] of blocked content, so I just whitelisted it.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 22:32, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
==Porn tables==
Can we blacklist strings of html code? Like [ this]?  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 12:38, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
:Can't see why not, simply blacklisting BGCOLOR should work. I'll test. --[[User:NJR ZA|Nick]] 13:16, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
:: I have added ''([Bb][Gg][Cc][Oo][Lo][Oo][Rr].*){5,}'' to the spamfilter. It should block all pages that contains the word '''bgcolor''' more than 5 times --13:30, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Great!  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:52, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
== World of Warcraft ==
I added a couple of terms to try and stop what I believe is a spambot which has been spamming links primarily to mmoinn dot com across multiple language versions.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:20, 13 December 2008 (EST)
== ...joes (& spam list trimming) ==
So this is the second problem I've had with Joe... I can't add trader joes website, and now can't add Hale'iwa Joe's website... spam filter is blocking... i tried adding to the whitelist... and other thoughts? &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 17:04, 14 December 2008 (EST)
: Just remove it.  I think we should actually have a process in place to clean up the blacklist every now and then, because many of the hit-and-run spammers never come back, and having too big a blacklist causes collateral damage. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 21:57, 14 December 2008 (EST)
:: Agree with Jani.  If no one objects I think we should take a stab at trimming the list significantly, and anything that turns up from a spambot can always be blacklisted again later.  I'd recommend leaving anything that's on this talk page, and the obvious ones (like the porn and drug patterns) but trimming others. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:01, 14 December 2008 (EST)
:: I've trimmed those URLs that appear to be spambot-related that start with a number or the letter "a".  If there is an uptick in spam please revert, otherwise it might be worthwhile doing a bit more housekeeping in the coming days. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 23:57, 14 December 2008 (EST)
:::I put "© 20\d\d" back - my ''guess'' is that's less anti-spam than anti-pasting-copyright-notices, which has some value in catching particularly blatant copyvio additions. -- [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 00:04, 15 December 2008 (EST)
:::: Thanks, I didn't look at that one closely enough and misinterpreted the "d"s to be letters instead of regular expressions.  Probably a good example of why these expressions should be explained on the talk page, thus giving a more permanent record of why they were added... -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 00:14, 15 December 2008 (EST)
:::::I don't see anything on here that says "joe" though, and Safari doesn't return any results when I search the blacklist, which is why I'm confused &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 00:25, 15 December 2008 (EST)
:::::: Have a look at [[Wikitravel:Spam filter]] which gives some details on how the two blacklists work.  The [[Wikitravel:Local spam whitelist]] allows URLs that are being blocked by the default Mediawiki spam blacklist.  In this case, it appears that you have to add the ''exact'' pattern on the Mediawiki blacklist to the whitelist to allow it.  I've added "joes\.com" to the whitelist, and should now work as expected. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 00:31, 15 December 2008 (EST)
:: Old URLs trimmed through "h" now.  As always, if a spambot returns that uses any of these patterns please re-add them to the blacklist. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 16:40, 20 December 2008 (EST)
::: I've completely trimmed the list at this point to remove old patterns that weren't listed on this talk page. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:52, 1 January 2009 (EST)
== falas<!-- -->teen ==
For many weeks now an anonymous user has been turning up, and without discussion changing significant information on articles related to Israel and Palestinian issues, including such basic data as capital cities (see [] for one such example).  [[Wikitravel:Be fair#Political disputes]] is fairly clear on how politically-motivated edits SHOULD be handled, so hopefully adding terms like the one above will at least slow the user down a bit. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 17:24, 1 January 2009 (EST)
== inugg dot com ==
This site has turned up in a few places lately.  Hopefully it can be de-listed once the current craze for these wacky boots subsides. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:01, 5 January 2009 (EST)
: See also justuggboot, myuggs, and uggs-4-cheap, all on the blacklist, and now the new contender: cheaplvsale.  All of the same pattern -- user registers, posts some ridiculous piece of SEO bait as a new page, someone speedy-deletes it within ten minutes, repeat in a week.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 01:30, 8 December 2009 (EST)
== removal romantica tours dot com for spam list ==
Hi Ryan, I am writing this to you regarding the black listing of romantica tours dot com
I recently hired a company to optimize our website and improve our ranking with the search engines. By browsing the internet I find out they used unethical techniques, and one of them was to add content on Wiki Travel without my permission in various sections related to Italy. I was horrified that their stupidity had led us to be black listed on this reputable site. I proud myself to have created a company based on good and ethical practice in growing its business and I ask if you could please take romantica tours dot com off the black list.
I assure you that our link will not be associated again with any content on the website and please forgive me for my lack of supervision.
Thank you and best regard,
: Forgive me my bluntness, but it very much seems like you've just reused arguments from the ''Removal of URL from Blacklist |'' section above. Doesn't seem very convincing to me. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 23:44, 25 January 2009 (EST)
:: For the record a [ search] shows that the links in question has been added inside hotel listings, so when you click the link behind a hotel name, expecting to get the hotel website, you are taken directly to Romantica Tours front page.
: I'm willing to assume good faith and remove anybody from the blacklist on sincere request...  ''once''.  But if they get busted again, then it's time to throw away the key. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 01:01, 26 January 2009 (EST)
::A sincere request might be accompanied by a willingness to go through and remove links to their site on the numerous pages that still contain it :) &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 02:27, 26 January 2009 (EST)
== saultseller dot com ==
Keeps redirecting all listings to this site.  Readds despite reversions by mulitple people over many weeks.  --[[User:Inas|Inas]] 07:11, 29 January 2009 (EST)
: I'm getting sick of him too. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 07:29, 29 January 2009 (EST)
I've added this one to prevent a certain videogame gold farming guild from continuing to add spam pages to Wikitravel like this.[]  I've seen this particular spam for what seems like a good year on Shared, and it seems to be rearing its ugly head especially now, both on shared and :en. And I can't think of a possible good reason to use this term in our guides.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:47, 4 February 2009 (EST)
== geogad dot com ==
An anonymous user has been adding (and re-adding) links to this audio tour site.  Edit history has been used to try to get the user's attention by providing links to [[Wikitravel:External links#What not to link to]] (''"In particular, avoid links to other travel guides, including audio guides and audio tours."'') but to no avail.  If the user in question disagrees with current policy please discuss on [[Wikitravel talk:External links/Audio guides]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 14:31, 3 February 2009 (EST)
: Looks like we've succeeded in engaging this user in discussion, so I've removed the site from the blacklist. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 15:18, 3 February 2009 (EST)
== wowphilippinestravelagency dot com ==
I've provided numerous pointers in edit summaries and on [[User talk:Wowphilippines]] as to why a list of [[Wikitravel:External links|external links]] on the [[Boracay]] article is inappropriate, but my edits have been reverted six times now without comment, so hopefully the spam list will be a more effective tool. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:45, 4 February 2009 (EST)
: I've also added boracayvacationpackages dot com. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:43, 4 February 2009 (EST)
:: ...and several other URLs starting with "boracay".  Hopefully we'll get the anon's attention. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:14, 6 February 2009 (EST)
::: Adding boracayregency dot com to the existing list, with the intention of getting the user to read [[User_talk:Nhio.cuales|their talk page]] -- keeps recreating advertising articles.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 21:48, 20 November 2009 (EST)
== Parisforrent dot com ==
Keeps recreating page, despite several deletions with edit summary, which is displayed fairly prominent when you try to recreate a deleted page --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 14:35, 4 February 2009 (EST)
: Hi Stefan, I don't exactly understand what was wrong with my tentative posting (did it 3 times, thought it was a bug with my proxy). Could you please explain me why parisforrent dot com could not be mentionned in this directory, I tought it was just on spot, totally compliant with the policy and the posting was pretty clear and informative. Thanks, Xavier
:: Hi Xavier.  An external link from Wikitravel to this site is likely against the policy consensus.  See [[Wikitravel:External links]].  Wikitravel is ''not'' a directory, but a travel guide.  It aims to put travelers in direct contant with any acccommodation providers in the destination, and does not generally allow consolidators, and similar. (An exception to this is sometimes made for local agent with a local address, where an apartment is placed with local lessor).  If after reading the policy, you still think a listing for your site is appropriate, please discuss.  I hope you can find some travel information to share on some destinations, Paris or otherwise.  --[[User:Inas|Inas]] 23:34, 8 February 2009 (EST)
::: See also [[Wikitravel:Accommodation listings#Apartment listings]].  Rental sites that don't meet those conditions are generally reverted as we tend to get inundated with those links - further reasoning behind the current policy can be found on the [[Wikitravel talk:Accommodation listings#Apartment rentals]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 00:55, 9 February 2009 (EST)
Hi All, thanks a lot for these useful explanations. I was a little lost, and didn't understand why my tentative listing kept disapearing without any explanation.I thought it was a kind of bug...
I have read carefully the policy links you refered at and I still think that ParisForrent is perfectly legit and wikitravel policy compliant. We are an "real" agency, focused only on Paris vacation rentals with more than 10 years of business history. We do have an physical address, both in the US and in Paris and most of the apartement we offer belongs to us directly. I would really appreciate if somebody could review our website and explain to me why we are less relevant than the other listed in the Paris Sleep section. In any case, could you please take us off the "blacklist" because it is bad for our reputation and could impact our google ranking, something that would be totally unfair. I won't of course try again to publish us if you decide that we should not be there, even I don't realy understand why...
Thanks for your help! Xavier
: I've removed the listing from the blacklist.  I don't have time at the moment to review your site, but hopefully someone else can take a look and suggest how you might be able to integrate it into Wikitravel.  At a minimum you can [[Wikitravel:How to create a user account|create a user page]] and identify yourself and your site there.  See also [[Wikitravel:Welcome, business owners]] for helpful info. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 13:49, 9 February 2009 (EST)
::  In general, agencies are outside policy.  If you run a tour, thats okay.  If you are an agent for a tour, it is usually not.  If you run a hotel, that okay, if you are an agent for one, it is usually not.  Apartments get a little hazy, because often an apartment cannot be let individually, because the owner only rents through an agent.  This is the basis for policy.  Your site only accepts payment in US$, it only gives a US phone number, it doesn't give a local address in Paris to pick up keys etc.  If this site were allowed it would be difficult not to allow any apartment consolidator.  I think it lies outside the policy.  --[[User:Inas|Inas]] 17:58, 9 February 2009 (EST)
== User Talk Page Spam ==
I have noticed common spam text on several user talk pages. I have blocked a number of spam terms that appeared on the following pages: [ User talk:Harcourt], [ User talk:Bartholomew], [ User talk:Beaverbr] - [[User:Huttite|Huttite]] 04:19, 10 February 2009 (EST)
:Also [ User talk:Huggins] and [  User talk:JohnAnselm] - [[User:Huttite|Huttite]] 04:55, 10 February 2009 (EST)
==Lost Paddle Rafting==
lostpaddlerafting dot com seems to be a legitimate business, but despite requests in edit comments and on user talk pages the site has been added to everything from unrelated Colorado cities like Denver to the USA article, most recently using the edit comment "grammatical", apparently in an effort to disguise the change.  There are plenty of rafting outfits in the Rockies to choose from, so I don't think it hurts us to blacklist this overly-aggressive operator.  To the editor who has been adding these listings: please read [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]], which outlines the policies for listing a business on Wikitravel. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:13, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
: ''The message below copied from [[User talk:Wrh2]]:''
:Hi Ryan! I apologize for posting multiple listings for my web on wiki-travel. I was so excited to discover this site I guess I got carried away with posting it to what I believed to be relevant categories. If you could please remove my site www.lostpaddlerafting dot com from the blacklist I will repost it only in the city I am located. Or, can I place it under Colorado since we operate through-out the state? Please let me know where you think it might be most appropriate and I'll place it only once. Thanks! jwick
p.s. I had to write out dot com as I am still black listed:)
:: I've removed this site from the blacklist, let's see how things go. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 13:29, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
::: This site appeared again today in the [[Colorado]] article... I've reverted the listing, but if problems persist then it might be worth reconsidering the blacklist removal. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 13:07, 20 February 2009 (EST)
== putinbayreservations dot com and putinbay dot com ==
A very persistent anonymous editor has been changing URLs for [[Put-in-Bay]] hotels to point to this bucket site, and despite good faith efforts to discuss why this violates [[Wikitravel:External links]] continues to revert changes.  If this site really is the preferred site for the hotels in questions it is mentioned NO WHERE on those hotel's web sites which seems very suspicious, so I'm adding it to the blacklist to prevent further changes. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 00:05, 23 February 2009 (EST)
: I've also added putinbay dot com.  See [[Special:Contributions/]], [[Talk:Put-in-Bay#Official Link]], and [[:WikiPedia:Talk:Put-in-Bay, Ohio#4 years of Edgewater Investment Group (Ohio) spam on Wikipedia]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:14, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
== www bbvaticanstpeter dot com ==
Tampering with his listing, recapitalizing, and moving to top of an alphabetical list, despite a warning. Maybe this will get his attention - hardline stance on Rome since it's spectacularly prone to these things. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:14, 1 March 2009 (EST)
: Well, after repeated warning the owner is still at it, but how does he [ add his link] after it has been blacklisted?`--[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 09:07, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
:: The blacklist expression had a space in it.  Fixed now. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 09:22, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
== Yabancı dil  ==
An anonymous user has been repeatedly adding a page called '''Yabancı dil''' which includes the phrase ''Yabancı dil''. The content is in turkish and appears to be an English language school advertisement and a copy vio. I added '''Yabancı?dil''' to the spam filter in the hope that it would work. - [[User:Huttite|Huttite]] 06:26, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
: The previous pattern made this page and the VFD page un-editable, so I've replaced it with "evrekaegitim dot com", which is the URL that was added on the page in question. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 08:28, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
Strange adverts/spam for gold collecting and wood chopping for some crappy game called Runesca*pe keep popping up, over a very long term. I can't think of any appropriate use of the word on our site, so I've blacklisted it.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:58, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
== X mas? ==
Any reason X mas is on this list?  I couldn't edit [[Austin]] because of it.  I suppose I could change the wording there, but forcing usage is not a good reason for something to be on this list.  --[[User:Jonboy|Jonboy]] 10:49, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
== dailyistanbultours dot com ==
Added to stop an absolute flood of linkspam from an anonymous user (for example, [ğlisi&diff=prev&oldid=1094312]) going onto every page between Istanbul districts and the top-level Asia article [].  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 19:26, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
:On this topic, shouldn't it already be impossible to add so many external links in this format? Is there something wrong with the blacklist? Or is there something in this pattern that we are not catching?  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 19:50, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
::The pattern won't catch bulleted lists like that - it only works if all the URLs are added on one single line, without additional characters between them.  Multi-line regular expressions aren't commonly supported, so I'm not sure if there's an easy fix for MediaWiki.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 20:08, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
== rajasthan-holiday-tour dot com ==
This link, along with text copied verbatim from other web sites (see [[:shared:Copyleft#Can I copy text to Wikitravel from other sites?]] for why that's bad) has been appearing all over the site and many times within the same articles (see [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] and [[Wikitravel:External links]]).  If the anonymous user who is adding these links reads this and agrees to stop spamming then the blacklist listing can be removed. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 08:56, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
== golfclub2000 ==
After link spamming us for the n'th time, despite good efforts to teach the shop better manners, I think it's time for a blacklisting. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 22:50, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
:He's now touting handbagwholesale8.  Added -- [[User:Cjensen|Colin]] 04:15, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
=== Noibaitaxi ===
Ryan tried serveral times to communicate with this user, who is linkspamming our guides in Vietnam with the above domain - as far as I can gather this resulted in the creation of a different account , not the way forward - so blacklisting. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 11:06, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
== Blacklist error update ==
The default text in [[MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext]] was quite uninformative, so I tried to make it a little more user-friendly.  Irony of the day: since the message doesn't support MediaWiki markup, I had to write it in HTML, but my first attempt was rejected by the spam filter due to the ''a href'' format link... [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 00:52, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
== Help catching new instances of old spamming trick ==
Can anyone figure out how to update this expression:
To also catch instances like
http://www.message_cac4ttrvar dot com/
http://www.message_acerricc4 dot com/
Thanks - --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 12:52, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
: Changed [a-z] into [0-9a-z], which catches the numbers as well. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 00:30, 10 April 2009 (EDT)
== ==
For some reason, urls ending at china .com are blacklisted, which eg hits http://www.puppetchina .com (which is the official home page for a theater in Beijing).  Is this filter needed?--[[User:ClausHansen|ClausHansen]] 04:41, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:Huh, the mainlist [] has <pre>china\.com</pre> blacklisted, but I would not have thought that would block all urls ending in that expression. In any rate, I have added it to the [[Wikitravel:Local spam whitelist]], so the url above will not get caught by the filter.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:01, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
==Dhakaholidays dot com==
This [[User_talk:Lukebd|fine fellow]] was asked to stop, after having his spam reverted throughout the day, but instead he thought it would be productive to just step things up and spam page creations at high volume.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:47, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:Spammer is back tonight and created a page with the name that I added to the blacklist. Can people create pages that contain blacklisted terms? Or did I do something wrong?  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:28, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
::The blacklist does not extend to article names, but these tend to get speedied within minutes anyway. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 06:10, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
==toplvltrr dot com==
''section header name changed to escape blacklist''
[[User talk:|User]] has been duly warned, but shows no inclination to stop. On top of that, the spammer is leaving goofy "wikitravel welcomes business owners" messages in articles [] and spammed across the pages of those who are reverting his edits.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 19:03, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
: Also trying to delete this section as [[Special:Contributions/|]].  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 21:34, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
::What's it?
I edited Guilin and Yangshuo sections according the rules of wikitravel. And do give the right contact information of certain services which have no booking information. They are ALL CORRECT CONTACT INFORMATION NOT SPAM! I don't know why people detele my work and even block my friend's site link.
As for the warn, I didn't get the message until this morning.
Please give me specific reasons not show me some links to some pages because I already wiki business pages many times these days.
Thank you!
I want to claim again that all the information are NOT SPAM. Many travelvers have been getting the services from the certain contact information which I edited. I don't know why Peter and Gorilla think they are spam. If they really think it is spam please give me the reason. I left messages in their discuss pages asking for reasons but no reply. :-(  {{unsigned|}}
: Start with [[Wikitravel:Activity listings#Tour listings]].  In particular, "In general, if a traveler could fulfill the substance of the tour on their own, the tour should not be listed on Wikitravel." [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 10:31, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Thank you very much, Jpatokal. eventually I found the problems in the pages which you left me. What should I do now if I want to put back the agency's link? I can delete all the other irrevlent information which I edited before by myself and I will help you guys to clean wikitravel in the future. Please help me get of out it. It hurts the search engine rank badly:-(
Thank you!
:: I have removed the domain from the blacklist, as it has served its purpose.  Bear in mind, that this list isn't just for spam, but also for domains that are repeatedly added to articles in breach of policy.  Since you are now engaged with the discussion, and have agreed not to re-add the domain, I have removed it from the list.  It can be re-added should any issues rearise.  Thanks. --[[User:Inas|Inas]] 23:48, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
Thank you so much, Inas!!! I am going to regiest an account as business owner. And then I will delete the irrevlent information which I have edited and add back the agency link and only use one sentence to discribe according the rules of wikitravel welcome business owner, don't tout and agency listing policy. In the future I will try my best to clean the pages.
Thank you again!
:If you add the link again, I will re-add it to the blacklist, as you have clearly been told that your link is not acceptable per policy. I think you already realize this, though...  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 01:27, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
Why can't I add the agency link back? Which policy? I have been studying wikitravel policies these days. In this page it says if the tour operator meet the certain conditions it is okay to list.
The conditions are
1.The operator must have a "real world" office with a phone number and address.
2.Do not list tour operators that act as a booking agent or travel-planner for the traveler—tour agencies should offer something as a supplement, rather than a replacement for Wikitravel guides. Listed tours should count as an activity available at a destination (e.g., a helicopter tour of a city, or a camel expedition into the Sahara).
3.Do not list resellers of tours, only list the actual tour operators.
4.Always list tour agencies if they are requisite to visit a certain area. Examples include tours required by law (e.g., Panmunjeom) and tours required due to exceptional danger (e.g., war zones and extreme environments such as the Amazon, Antarctica, Space, etc).
Is there anything that I miss? I don't want to be again the rules again. Thx!
: Your question has been answered many times, in many places on Wikitravel.  But for completeness, I will answer it again here.  Wikitravel aims to put travellers in direct contact with tour operators, who add substantial value at a destination.  Agents for tour operators cannot be listed.  At this point, I would suggest that you do not add the listing back, but if you believe that you have a complying listing, that you discuss it first on the talk page of the relevant article(s).  See  [[Wikitravel:Activity listings#Tour listings]] and [[Wikitravel:External links]] --[[User:Inas|Inas]] 02:06, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
Hi, there! I already read the two links above again. However, I still think I have the right to put it back:-)
Because 1. as business owners, my friend and I own ''**** (TLT)''; 2. **** is NOT agency for any tour operators. We have our own tourguides, cars, offices and we offer the final services to travelers directly without any agency. Our head office is just 5mins' walk from train station and thousands of travelers have joined our tours; 3.if needed you can leave an email add for me here then I can email you our license as a qualificated tour operator in China.
But no worries, I won't edit it back until I can show you that **** is NOT tout.
Thank you! Lily in Guilin, China
: {{User|Stamboul}}, apparently affiliated with **** because he added their details to the [[North Korea]] page, has now deleted all tour operators there twice.  This looks like bad faith editing to me...
: Also, ****'s North Korea <nowiki>http://**** dot com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=16 FAQ</nowiki> ''(edited to escape blacklist)'' is plagiarized word for word from the original by [ Koryo Tours].--> [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 12:46, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
I am not in charge of North Korea part in **** but I think my colleage already put that in order in the page. I dont know much about it but in Guilin and Yangshuo parts I have admitted that at the time we didn't know the rules of wikitravel we made a lot of mistakes. However, we have been studying wikitravel rules these days and after our domain was got out of the blocklist we really know how to behave. We have promise not to delete other's information and won't tout in our information. Our offices are in Yangshuo and Guilin. We are local tour operator of the area. I have proved that the qualifications that why we can list in tour list in Guilin and Yangshuo area.  Thank you! Lily
As I have got some suggestions from here and my talk page, I think it would be better talk about our situation in the revalent disscussion pages-Yangshuo( and Guilin( sections instead of here. See you guys there! Lily
**** want to say thank you to everyone who has helped us and given us good suggestions! ****-Lily in Guilin, China
:Re-added, user back to adding link, and since this may not be clear to everyone, is trolling [].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:59, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
Today I found someone add the link back to the blocklist. We have NEVER add the domain back to tout or to do anything bad!!! I just came back from a business trip from Tibet. After I came back to office these days what I contribute in wikitravel are all useful items. I do all of them according to the rules I have learned. None of them are spam. Moreover, if someone doesn't agree with what I wrote plase show your repect frist:talk to me in the mytalk page and let me know your different opinoion before making this rude decision(adding our domain to blocklist directly). Long time ago, the domain was in blocklist. At the time, I didn't know the fucntion of "my talk" however, people did tried to contact me and let me know their different opinion through "my talk". Now I am really angry and concerned about this case.
:These spammers (+ trolls) have not, and in all likelihood will not stop spamming WT, so I've added a pattern to catch any future references.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 22:46, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
I am a new user on Wikitravel. I am planning to make myself an account. I already tried to eddit one page. I wanted to add the link to the Embassy of the Russian Federation in Pyongaeng, but it said that it was blocked by spam filter. Please help, thank you.  {{unsigned|}}
:I tested [[Pyongyang]], and don't see any problems. In which case there must be a problem with the terms you are adding&mdash;would you please post here exactly what you are trying to add. If the blacklist stops that, check the top grey box, which should tell you exactly what is being blocked. Then convey here what the problem is.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 23:54, 29 April 2009 (EDT)
I am trying to add a link to this page: and am getting blocked. The link I am trying to add is extremely relevant to the post. It is latitude38 dot com/crewlist/Crew.html
This is a primary site.
:The spam filter was activated by the long unbroken list of external links. I don't see any reason for us to keep that list of links, so I have removed it.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 16:04, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
== msryat dot org ==
Arabic-language site that's been added in blocks of four URLs by [[Special:Contributions/|an anonymous user]] to numerous unrelated articles.  Not a language I read, but no apparent value on :en. - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 21:51, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
== golden hyphen flower dot co dot id ==
Hotel spammer keeps recreating a page for this hotel, immediately following deletion, despite [[User talk:Koeznandar|several requests to stop]].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:51, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
== citybaseapartments dot com ==
Have added this as a temp measure. Adding to many pages despite attempt to educate. [[User:Nrms|Nrms]] 07:24, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
: Hi, I can see that on the 11th May our URL was added to the blacklist as a "TEMPORARY MEASURE". I have since been discussing the issue with DGuillame (please see his talk page) - I apologise for adding our link to too many pages - I was not aware that it could only be cities where we owned apartments. I would like to be able to add my URL in accordance with your rules, please can you remove the ban (I will only add in the pages indicated on the talk section of DGuillame's page) {{unsigned|Citybase Apartments‎}}
:: You were not aware that you could not advertise in cities where you don't even have apartments?  That's just breathtakingly stupid of you. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 11:33, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
Since there seems to be some user engagement going on now, removing in the hopes the problem has been solved.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 22:38, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
: @DGuillame - thanks a lot
: @jpatokal - we 'have' apartments available to lease in all the areas that I posted our links - just not apartments that we own (we are agents for many cities and own in ones already indicated). Perhaps if you read the indicated messages / background before posting a comment implying someone was stupid that would be for the best?
== topicss dot com ==
Spam links to this site with front linked Arabic have been showing up around the site, added by numerous ips, mostly on pages that no one appears to be following.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:40, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
== Dive time dot com ==
Per [[User_talk:ScubaDiver007]] & [[Special:Contributions/ScubaDiver007]].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 07:16, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
== travelmapia dot com ==
Seeing regular spam for this domain across our Latin American articles, from multiple ips, over at least the past week.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 15:49, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
== puertoprincesa tour dot com ==
Pretty egregious spamming, which escalated when asked to stop. This spamming hasn't been going on long, so I think it would be fine to remove it if the owner agrees to knock it off.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:42, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
== orlandodiscountticketsusa dot com ==
This link has been reverted multiple times from every article in the Disney World area, with numerous pointers given to [[Wikitravel:External links]].  Since it keeps reappearing I'm adding it to the blacklist in the hope of halting the spamming. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 18:42, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
== s one dot shard dot jp ==
Sudden wave of spambots dropping tons of links to this one domain, e.g., [].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 04:30, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
== 33333 dot com dot tw ==
The link to the Gau Shan Ching hotel is dead on the [[Alishan]] website, so I was just trying to be helpful and update it to the right link (which is this domain, and which is actually the right website.)
: Thanks for the heads up, fixed -- although that URL does not appear to trigger the blacklist? [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 10:58, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
== crossculturalsolutions dot org ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]].  Listing added to dozens of articles in violation of [[Wikitravel:External links]] and [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]].  Attempts to get user's attention via talk page have failed. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:21, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
: I apologize for the violation but I was wondering if it would be appropriate to link our main page (instead of individual country pages) to the pages of the various places we offer volunteer opportunities. I have noticed other organizations have done this such as Ikando volunteers under the work section on the Ghana page and various organizations, such as CARE and PID, under the work section on the Guatemala page as well as other pages. We would love for the Wikitravel users to be able to explore our volunteer opportunities. Thank you for your time. username: crossculturalsolutions
:: The primary problem with your edits is that you copied the same site to many articles, which is considered spamming.  Copying the same text to more than one article is a red flag.  As indicated by others, [[Volunteer]] seems like the most appropriate place for this information. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:44, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
::: I am very sorry for the violation, we are new to Wikitravel and nothing like this will happen again. I was wondering, however, if we could have permission to post our information on the Guatemala and Guatemala City pages only? Thank you Ryan.
==balipropertyconsultancy dot com==
Repeated spam on [[Nusa_Lembongan]]. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 09:46, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
==store dot pchome==
Repeated spam in failed sneaky attempts by [[Special:Contributions/Thung11]] & [[Special:Contributions/]].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 06:12, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
==deepcreekvacations dot com==
The [[apt|rental agency aggregator]] spam from [[User talk:|this guy]] (who's used other ips as well) doesn't stop, and he's already been duly warned.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:31, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
: The owner has responded here: [[User talk:Ravenfan]] - I don't know to much about the prehistory and apparent earlier communication, so I'd like some input before removing this. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 16:58, 5 July 2009 (EDT)
::The history is one of a half-month of edit warring (even ''following'' a blacklisting & an in-article note). The page history is here [], and former communication (outside of the article) is [[User talk:|here]]. I'm ok with removing the site, provided the business owner will not add his own listing back to the article. If he does, it should be re-added to the blacklist. The business simply and clearly does not meet our criteria for [[apt|apartment rental listings]].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 06:04, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Owner has agreed not to re-list it, and has begun contributing positively, so I've removed it.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 11:02, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
== this is google ==
Somewhat bizarre new spambot pattern, preceded by six random letters and with a long string of garbage in the edit summary.  Coming in from multiple IPs with no apparent pattern to the target articles.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 17:42, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
== redsevenleisure dot co dot uk ==
See [[Special:Contributions/Nivaria]].  User isn't responding to comments left on his/her talk page or in edit summaries and is repeatedly re-adding links that aren't in accordance with [[Wikitravel:External links]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:29, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
== abetterstay dot com ==
See [[Special:Contributions/Big-chad]].  Notes left on the user's talk page don't seem to be getting attention, and this link is clearly not appropriate according to [[Wikitravel:Accommodation listings#Apartment listings]] and [[Wikitravel:External links]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 19:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
== E d e n w a l k s ==
Edit warring and endless additions of a tour agency, no details, and it probably counts as a tour people could do themselves. All despite a [[User_talk:|warning]]. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 08:10, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
:As well, I am not sure if i'm writing in the right section but I am asking for the removal of ***''blacklisted term''*** from the blacklist in Rome italy under the Tours section. Our info including a small description has been repeatedly removed and eventually spammed. Another listing with the same info has not had a problem and in fact we have seen 4 companies removed in total in the last few days while one company only has remained untouched. We recently found WikiTravel and would find it a great resource to offer our services. What should we do? {{unsigned|Edenrome}}
::What you should do is stop [[Wikitravel:Edit war|edit warring]], and spamming Wikitravel to promote your business. You should also read messages left for you like [[User_talk:|this one]], as well as check the history of the page [] to see who is undoing your edits, and why. The fact that you don't even leave a description of your tour makes it pretty clear that you are uninterested in anything other than improving your own web traffic. And I have a strong hunch that your business would not satisfy our [[tour|criteria for inclusion]].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:31, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
:::I'll add that this was extremely poor taste [].  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:33, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
Ok I AM NOT INTERNET OR COMPUTER SAVY AND DID NOT KNOW I WAS being contacted. I am trying to help and did not want to hurt our company at all. all i saw was my post gettinng removed as well as others while i stayed.
:This was annoying, but I doubt we'll see the company again, so I removed the patterns. --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 22:43, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
== xiahe hyphen tibettravel dot info ==
The usual tale of edit wars and ignored warnings by a tour agency. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 08:31, 10 July 2009 (EDT)
== Getting Removed from the List (roundtheworldflights dot com) ==
Hello Ryan and Evan
I am writing in to ask for rtwflights dot com and roundtheworldflights dot com to be removed from your blacklist, I hope this is the correct section to ask. Also to apologise - didnt realise you werent allowed to link to specific page tables. Had being doing it for ages mainly because I had written and updated a lot of the content - most of that was without links. Also didnt realise there was the talk section till someone showed it to me yesterday. Yeah as you say wasnt malicious but breaks the rules. Realise its a big no no now.
Kind Regards Stuart
Stuart at roundtheworldflights dot com
: If you could please confirm that you've read and understand [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] (specifically: don't list the same site multiple times and don't use overly promotional language) and [[Wikitravel:External links]] (don't link to aggregator sites) then removal shouldn't be a problem.  Please also note that replacing an official link with your own (such as in this edit: []) is a considered a fairly serious breach of etiquette on Wikitravel.  We appreciate the contributions, but current policies and guidelines have been set up to ensure that the site's primary focus is on travelers rather than on promoting specific businesses or organizations. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 18:18, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:: Hi Ryan Yup I now have read and understand the touting rules (specifically: don't list the same site multiple times and don't use overly promotional language) . In fact this whole talk section has been a bit of a revelation about what you can and cant do and the direct links into sections wont happen again. Apologies again. I would like to update the RTW rule data (mainly because the info in it is a good year out of date) but I'll stick to the technical data and not touch any links or use self serving language. Would having one link within specialist Travel Agents be ok? Am asuming it would? But wont put it till you guys okay. Cheers again and have a good Sunday
::Kind Regards Stuart
::Stuart at roundtheworldflights dot com
::: I've removed the blacklisting - thanks for reading the guidelines.  It's probably fine to add a single link in the [[Round the world flights]] article, especially if it's done in the context of a section that provides travel advice to users who want to book these tickets through such an agency (specifically: what are the advantages / disadvantages, things to know, etc).  Since such a link is somewhat of a border-line case (it isn't to the airline's own site, but is to a source that is useful specifically for the travel topic) I suspect that if the section eventually turns into merely a list of dozens of links that a future editor might remove or trim down the section, so the most important thing would be making sure that such a section is written for travelers, is not overly-promotional, and provides useful information about the businesses being linked.  Hope that helps! -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 17:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::: Cheers Ryan.
== Metacharacters And You ==
I've cleaned up a number of expressions in the blacklist that were escaping (preceding with a backslash) a number of things they didn't need to.  For reference, the only ''literal'' characters that need escaping are:
* Punctuation: '''.  $  ^  |  *  \  /'''
* Brackets: '''( ) [ ] < > { }'''
Things that ''don't'' need escaping include spaces, colons, and hyphens.  In some cases, including an inadvertent escape can cause your expression to fail in unexpected ways - "dull" would block the word dull, but "\dull" would only block "0ull", "1ull", ..., "9ull".  Similar problems meant a few items on the list were previously ineffective.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 21:23, 22 July 2009 (EDT)
== Random spam catcher ==
Per [[Wikitravel_talk:Vandalism_in_progress#Spambots]], I've experimentally added the string [B-DF-HJ-NP-TV-XZb-df-hj-np-tv-xz]{5}, which catches sequences of five or more consonants in a row -- not something that should happen too often outside random spam. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 00:28, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
: Made that 6 after after 5 got stuck on "CHTVR-tehk" in the [[Czech phrasebook]]. Strč prst skrz krk! [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 00:28, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
:: And then it choked on the domain "toplvltrr".  Grah, rolling back... [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 00:28, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
Another concept: ([a-z][A-Z]{3}|[A-Z][a-z]{3}), which catches the case of a letter pair changing three times in a row (eg. aBcDeF).  Still would fail on eg. German department store KaDeWe... [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 04:10, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
==taxi lima peru dot com==
A persistent spammer, who I can't really contact due to lack of a static ip, has been changing all the taxi links on the Lima page to his/her own, and mucking about with the phone numbers too.  It's persistent enough where I've noticed some got by me today&mdash;time to blacklist.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 19:00, 29 July 2009 (EDT)
== One of the cheapest tariffs.... ==
Added to slow down [[Special:Contributions/|an anonymous user]] adding Vodafone advertisements to every city in India; a note on their [[User_talk:|talk page]] and a 5-minute block to get their attention only resulted in them shifting immediately to a [[Special:Contributions/|different address]] and going right back to it.  Not blocking the URL itself ( since it shows up with some legitimacy in many other articles.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 03:31, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
== LimaPeruTaxi dot com & Limo dot pe ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]] - spamming a vast number of [[Peru]] articles with taxi listings.  To the anonymous user who is doing this, please read [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] and [[Wikitravel:External links]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 14:04, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
== i was inturkey dot com==
We've gotten spam from this domain over the ''years'', and it often gets by unnoticed.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 20:24, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
== span on<!-- -->mouseover ==
This is one of the identifying characteristics of a long-running, utterly incomprehensible bot (or very bored human) that adds chunks of auto-translated text to pages -- usually Dutch, but the most recent example is Swedish instead: [].  The phrase is part of some assorted HTML that always accompanies the edits, which references some JavaScript that doesn't exist.  I can't imagine we'd ever want any on<!-- -->mouseover() events in text anyhow, so it should be safe to block.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 15:56, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
: Would anyone be opposed to simplifying this pattern to just "on<!-- -->mouse"?  I can't think of a case where adding any JS mouse events would be appropriate, and the more general pattern protects us from all sorts of potential spambot annoyances. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 16:04, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
:: As long as we can confirm that none of the Disney World parks offer mouse rides. Though I suppose those could just use "by mouse" instead. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 19:02, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
::: Seems like a good idea to me.  Probably none of them are named ''(left angle bracket)span on<!-- -->mouse'', which should cover all the unwanted material without interfering with Mickey's future plans.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 20:37, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
:::: Mickey aside (good one!) we can probably even drop the "<span" portion of the pattern to catch bots using divs, bolds, and any other tag that supports mouse events.  We did something similar with "display colon none" to catch bots that tried to hide content on pages and there haven't seemed to be any adverse effects. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 20:42, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
::::: I've made this change - if we end up getting any false positives please revert. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 09:57, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
== thecustom<!-- -->dresses ==
This one has been deleted twice now from [[User talk:TylerLee]], and possibly other pages.  It's a completely non-travel related advertisement for wedding dresses. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:51, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
== suitesatoldtown dot com ==
I've left pointers to [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] in edit summaries, on [[User talk:Dwang]] and on [[User talk:]] with no luck - this listing still gets added repeatedly to numerous articles in the [[Orlando]] area despite being located in [[Kissimmee]] (according to the web site).  See [[Special:Contributions/Dwang]] and [[Special:Contributions/]] for examples. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:42, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
==J u l i e and Yangshuo==
J u l i e just won't leave the [[Yangshuo]] page alone, and this has been going on for a long time.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:42, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
== completely-crete dot com ==
Spammed across a number of [[Greece]] articles. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 20:25, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
== Toledo, Ohio ==
I'm trying to add a route navigation box to the [[Toledo (Ohio)]] page, and the spambot is blocking me. I'm not even trying to add an external link. [[User:Eco84|Eco84]] 13:20, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
:Alright, I fixed it by deleting an external link that had been inserted in the Get Out section by someone else. [[User:Eco84|Eco84]] 13:32, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
== rabbitinternational dot com ==
Real estate spam on a few occasions across project articles and [[Dominican Republic]]. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 19:44, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
== trekkingtourinnepal dot com ==
Cleared our front page with spam for a good 15 minutes. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 06:07, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
== guilinchina dot cn ==
Repeated bad faith edits: switching out legitimate hotel websites with their own and adding new ones under the same aggregator url. Presumably, the easiest way to get through to this user will be a url blacklist.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 22:51, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
== finlandiahotelmoga dot com ==
Repeated additions to just about every page this guy gets near, even on project pages, haven't been around for while, but come back recently - and behaves just as badly as last time - despite a warning on a IP he/she did repeated edits on today --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 03:20, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
==  deconcilio1 at gmail ==
This guy has been spamming 'round the clock on several Italy articles across multiple language versions. A blacklisting should hopefully get his attention?  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 16:36, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
== visitbeautifulgreece dot wordpress dot com ==
Repeatedly replaced valid links throughout [[Greece]], continued after warning. [[User:Gorilla Jones|Gorilla Jones]] 11:30, 22 August 2009 (EDT)
== only-apartments dot com ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]] - spamming across all Paris articles.  To the user who is adding these listings - read [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] and [[Wikitravel:Accommodation listings#Apartment listings]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:30, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
== Window clean/wash - ing/ers ==
Various cleaning companies from California keep creating spammy user and user talk pages.  This should keep them out.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 22:55, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
== B. Bartmann ==
Bill, or someone promoting him, keeps spamming [[Talk:Travel topics]] from multiple IPs.
==Spam Filter Blocking Edit==
The Spam Filter keeps blocking the Talk Page of the Collaboration of the month candidates page when I try to add something. [[User:ChubbyWimbus|ChubbyWimbus]] 20:44, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
: What page are you talking about?  Editing [[Wikitravel talk:Collaboration of the month]] [ worked for me]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 20:53, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
::Sorry, I meant this page: [[Wikitravel talk:Destination of the Month candidates]] not the Collaboration. [[User:ChubbyWimbus|ChubbyWimbus]] 21:08, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
::: Fixed. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 21:14, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Thanks! [[User:ChubbyWimbus|ChubbyWimbus]] 22:20, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
The Spam Filter keeps blocking edits of Wailea, Maui page. Even when I remove all the text I added, it says the page edit is blocked by a spam filter. --Amy mci 20:54, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
: I can't reproduce that, [[Wailea]] seems to pass the filter as-is.  A blocked edit will tell you what caused the problem at the top of the page, inside a gray box; can you describe what it's catching on?  (Without triggering the filter on ''this'' page, hopefully!)  — [[User:Dguillaime|D. Guillaime]] 21:35, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::The link I put in, and then removed, was www dot wailea condo rentals dot com, a vacation rental company, which is a whole other issue, but first things first I guess.--Amy mci 16:14, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
::: isn't being blocked, as evidenced by the fact that I can add it to this comment.  The spam filter will specify the pattern that caused it to trigger when an edit fails - if you can let us know that pattern it should be simple to resolve this issue. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 16:22, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
== Various Car Hire Agencies ==
elephant car hire dot com has been showing up in a vast array of articles, from [[South Africa]] to [[Ireland]] to [[Chiang Mai]].  It's a booking site, and thus not suitable for Wikitravel according to [[Wikitravel:External links]].  I'm not entirely sure that I tracked down all articles that contain this link, so if anyone knows of a more reliable way to find and remove these links please take a stab at it. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 13:22, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
: There seem to be a number of UK car hire sites showing up in articles, and based on a quick web search they seem very suspicious.  fastcarhire, tigercarrental, arguscarhire, auto-europe, argusrentals and anycarhire are clearly aggregator sites and thus should not be listed here according to the policies cited above.  rhinocarhire claims to be an actual rental company with offices around the world, but I've never heard of it and a search for locations in LA turns up nothing other than their own listings. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 01:39, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
:: Having just spent thirty minutes chasing down car rental listings I'd suggest that Wikitravel probably needs to be very suspicious of car rental listings that show up here.  While some may be valid, it looks like a vast number of aggregators (or potentially just a handful that own multiple domains) are using Wikitravel and other sites for search engine optimization, and they are significantly more advanced than the spambots that hit us (search for rhino car rental - there are tons of blog postings and such, but they all look to be manufactured).  Anyone willing to investigate further will probably find a number of listings currently on the site that need to be removed. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 02:08, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
: I've also added budget dot co dot uk... Budget is a legitimate rental company in the US, but seeing links to a UK site turn up in articles ranging from Asia to South America is suspicious, and these are typically appearing in the same articles as the spammy links above. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 02:22, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
:: Three more - cypruscar dot co dot uk, paphoscarhire dot co dot uk, northcypruscarhire dot co dot uk.  These are all UK-based car rental aggregators that are being repeatedly re-added to Cyprus articles. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:18, 4 September 2009 (EDT)
: Yet another - enterprisecarhire dot us.  This looks like the budget dot co dot uk site, in that they're trying to piggyback off of a known site ( using a similar domain name. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:34, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
Question - does anyone know if easycar is a legitimate rental agency, or do they merely broker with actual rental agencies?  There have been a bunch of links added (and removed) to [[Orlando]] today, and looking at the company's web site I don't see any physical addresses so I'm suspicious of this one.  Does anyone know anything about them? -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:27, 17 December 2009 (EST)
: Their FAQ refers to "Allocated Supplier" several times, so I would venture no. /edit and their downtown Copenhagen address is a Hertz outlet. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 12:31, 17 December 2009 (EST)
:: Thanks... I'll let this sit for a bit longer in case someone comes to their defense, otherwise it looks like an easycar-ectomy is called for. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:44, 17 December 2009 (EST)
::: Removed and blacklisted. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 14:53, 25 December 2009 (EST)
: +holidaycars dot com.  Another online booking site that is being added to a ton of Ireland articles by anonymous users. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 14:51, 25 December 2009 (EST)
:: Additionally novacarhire dot com. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 15:55, 25 December 2009 (EST)
elephant car hire dot com do have their own fleet for cars in Cyprus but they are a broker elsewhere. Budget dot co dot uk are legitimate in the UK and easycar partially. easycar is part of the easy group (like the budget airliner easyjet) and have some of their own fleet. rhinocarhire, anycarhire and the others mentioned are all brokers.
Hi, would you please consider removing rhinocarhire dot com from the spam blacklist.  We are disappointed to see ourselves listed in this directory and the practice that seems to have led us there is certainly not condoned by our business.  We have traced the issues back to a former editor / SEO specialist who has not been involved with the company for some time now.  I would welcome any comments or advice of any further actions that we would need to undertake to be removed from the blacklist.  Many thanks in advance. {{unsigned|}}
: Given the problems with this company in the past, and the fact that your web site claims to have rental fleets in places where you do not (I live in LA, and despite what your web site says you do not own a rental fleet here) then I think it is highly unlikely that this site will be removed from the blacklist.  If you have a strong argument for its removal please state it, but know that once on the blacklist the bar for removal is pretty high. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:07, 16 January 2011 (EST)
Hi Ryan, thanks for your feedback.  We understand the wiki policy on external links and where not to link (brokers / aggregators) and accept that this has happened previously, however as stated this was traced back to a former editor who is no longer involved with the company.  I am at a loss to see what else we can do to be removed from the list.  We accept that the actions carried out on our behalf breached the wiki guidelines and for that we apologise, however this practise is not condoned and no action of this nature has taken place for some time.  I would be most grateful if you could further advise the next course of action, or reconsider our removal from the list.  I hope on this occasion you are willing to accept good faith and our acknowledgement of previous mistakes. We do not attempt to be listed on wiki as understand the rules on brokers, however are powerless to prevent spam from third parties that could be detrimental to us.  Would it be possible to create a separate list where we can self impose a listing so we cannot be listed in the main pages, however not be labelled as spam?
: A note was left on my talk page asking that I respond, so I would re-iterate that I don't believe that there is any value in removing this company from the blacklist.  It takes repeated spamming for a company to be added to this list, and once on the list it's up to the company to show why removal benefits Wikitravel.  Since this particular company rents cars from other companies it's not a primary source, and thus wouldn't qualify for listing on Wikitravel.  More importantly, there have been major problems with spam in the past, the company appears to have engaged in deceptive business practices by claiming to operate in locations where they were merely renting another company's vehicles, and it has set up fake blogs to boost the SEO value of the company, all of which have eroded the assumption of "good faith" and led to a situation where I honestly don't feel confident that the company is one that Wikitravel should be recommending that any traveler should trust. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:40, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
Ryan, Thank you for the reply, however I do not see the justification for our site being labelled as spam by wiki travel any longer.  We accept that previous practices led to our listing, however we have been punished by this now and understand the rules and assure that any such practices are not condoned or permitted by the company.  As for claiming to have cars at locations where we do not, this is not true, we are a broker like many car hire sites and market products that are available to our customers from us.  We have an official car hire blog within our site, I am not aware of any fake blogs that you mention, please provide further information.  We are not requesting wiki travel to recommend our company, however to continue to label us a spam is unreasonable in our opinion.  I would like to point out that we were awarded Best Car Hire Website 2010 at the Travolution Awards and so find your comment regarding your recommendation not to trust our site unjust.  I would welcome the opportunity to discuss this matter further, can you please advise the best way to contact you.
== Serious spammers are serious ==
Blacklisted hostelio who have decided it would be ingenious to use a spambot network to spam us with continously bouncing IP Addresses.  How about no? -- [[User:Cjensen|Colin]] 16:40, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
== triptobudapest DOT hu ==
Edit warring at [[Budapest]], not responding despite a couple of messages on talk page.  --[[User:Inas|inas]] 20:15, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
== theworlds retreat dot co dot uk ==
[[Special:Contributions/|This fellow]] has been edit warring & spamming all the Yorkshire pages with his [[dt|hotel touting]]. Hopefully this will get his/her attention&mdash;once it has, I'm fine with removing it from the blacklist.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 22:39, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
: Dear Peter,
: I included a bed and breakfast that is relevant to York, Yorkshire and East Yorkshire, with numerous other bed and breakfast listings under the default accommodation category.  I am not at war or a spammer.  The information is relevant to the page and improves the content for visitors interested in travelling to these areas.  I don't want to upset anyone or cause any harm.  I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way.  Perhaps if adding the listing to these three categories is too much we could at least add the listing to the East Yorkshire page which doesn't have much content?
: Kind Regards, Kevin
:: Nope, listings goes in the city where it's located, if it's on the country side outside any city zones we can list them in the relevant region as an exception. If you have found any other listings braking our rules, please feel free to move them to the most exact destination article, we don't always manage to catch everything all the time. But we never allow any business to add  multiple listings, period. If you are ready to accept that, I'll be happy to remove the blacklisting, otherwise you are free to discuss this policy [[Wikitravel_talk:Accommodation_listings|here]], though I doubt you will find much support. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 09:27, 18 September 2009 (EDT)
Dear Stefan, i accept no multiple listings.  My post above is requesting that the listing be added to a single page - East Yorkshire.  This charity run bed and breakfast is not in the city but in the country.  Sorry for being a pain but i think this page could really do with some more content.  I have lived in East Yorkshire for many years, love the area, and would like to contribute.
Kind Regards,
: Seeing we for some obscure reason actually have a stub page for [[Pocklington]], I've moved your listing there, [[dt|detoutet]] it a bit, and removed the blacklisting.  --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:05, 18 September 2009 (EDT)
== proposal on policy for adding ==
From time to time I encounter "edit conflict" triggered by the fact that already there was a blacklisted URL or something in the article I tried to edit. Hence the proposal:
# Before (or right after) implementing addition of a new URL to a blacklist, someone should remove all occurences of it everywhere in the language version.
# What can be done to fix that ''really confusing'' "edit conflict" message which gives no idea of what's really the problem, and where to seek for resolution?
--[[User:DenisYurkin|DenisYurkin]] 05:16, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
==perfect suntra vel dot com & barce lonapoint dot com==
This spammer has spammed links to these sites over the past couple days on at least six language versions (Hebrew was spared). This is the kind of thing that makes me wish we could edit the hard blacklist, which covers the whole site.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 12:01, 25 September 2009 (EDT)
== hotels residences dot com ==
Aggregator site that keeps adding themselves to cities and countries all over Europe.  All anonymous edits, and never more than a couple from any single IP address, so there's been no way to communicate with them via a talk page; putting them on the blacklist is a blunt approach, but at least it should get their attention.  Most likely won't need to be a permanent addition.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 15:52, 25 September 2009 (EDT)
: ...though, since they promptly switched to using a slightly different URL, perhaps stronger measures are in order.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 16:11, 25 September 2009 (EDT)
:: These assholes are spamming other language versions as well.  Kill kill kill! [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 02:42, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
== feelparis dot com, feelbarcelona dot com and feel-madrid dot com ==
Spamming Paris and Barcelona articles.  See [[Special:Contributions/]] and [[Special:Contributions/]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:48, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
: User has added additional URLs that are now blacklisted including: feel-nyc dot com. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:08, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
== direct-croatia dot com ==
Apartment spam.  See [[Special:Contributions/]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:53, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
== [[User:Gopinathangns]] ==
dear sir,
This is Gopinathan Iam doing travel business in chennai,kanchipuram,coimbatore,ooty,mamallapuram.
so that iam contributing in this site but my phone numbers and my travels name sare not getting stored in this site please help me
your telling iam deleting the competeters name but iam not doing like that.please consider my request.please allow to add my company contributes in wikitravel sites. {{unsigned|User:Gopinathangns}}
: Yes, you are deleting competitors - see [ this edit] for one of many examples. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:24, 1 October 2009 (EDT)
ok sir acctually i ask my friend to add my company profile but iam not aware of that deleting competetors names and all,but you see my profile is in wikitravel site for past 1 year but its not happening when i add my profile on first time so consider me and allow to add my mobile numbers because iam having through out tamilnadu so i have manage my company so once again iam asking you to allow me,and please consider my humble request i take care for not using anybody my login id so that i will avoid the misuses.
Thanks and Regards
Gopinathan S
This user is continuing to spam across articles in violation of [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]], so I've also added the company name (KEE<!-- -->RTHY) to the blacklist. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 15:29, 4 October 2009 (EDT)
== Aditya, A One and ABC ==
See [[Special:Contributions/Adityatravel]].  User is removing competitor listings, and after blacklisting immediately did the same thing with additional company names. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 18:14, 8 October 2009 (EDT)
: I've removed the patterns since this user continues to log in from multiple accounts and with various IP addresses and use different patterns not blocked by the spam filter.  Any contributions should be reverted on sight until this user makes some effort to show good faith. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:56, 17 October 2009 (EDT)
== al-sufarahotel dot com ==
Has now created the article of the same name for the n'th time, time to stop this. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 17:11, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
== Leonardo-hotels dot com ==
Bad faith editing and [[User:Silvertravel|sock puppetry]], time to stop this, at least until we got some dialogue with user. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 07:23, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
== Period space comma newline ==
The current wave of vandalbots all seem to end their one line with some punctuation (usually a period, occasionally a question or exclamation mark), space, and comma.  The pattern added matches only that combination, and only if it's either the end of the article or followed by anything that's ''not'' a letter or number -- I think that'll keep false positives at bay, but please revert if that's a mistake.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 22:03, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
: Looks like it was causing trouble (see Kobe below), so I've removed it.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 01:33, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
== migente dot com==
Spambot on several sites[[]] and has a similar pattern to exchange the first section. Always anymonous users and it's always fake goods. [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 08:59, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
== boards.webmd dot com==
Continious spam on several sites (e.g. [[Cagliari]] three times today) always in the first section of an article. It's junk and bad faith it obvious [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 09:02, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
== webjam dot com==
Especially targets Israeli articles [[]] and it's obvious junks  with changing IP's. [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 09:10, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
== identi dot ca==
Reenters always in the [[Soma Bay]] article and it's obvious spam. [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 11:05, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
:identica is a microblogging site started by Evan, our founder. It is a sort of competitor to twitter, and unfortunately, it looks like people have managed to create spam user ids on the site. While I don't see identica finding a place in travel articles, someone might legitimately place their identica links in their user pages. So, I guess we shouldn't be blocking the root url. What do folks think? &mdash; [[User:Ravikiran r|Ravikiran]] 01:30, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
::Ravikiran, I think we might keep an eye on the development but in the last week I reverted quite a bit of spam that originated from identica. Maybe someone can get in contact with Evan and ask if they had recently experienced problems with spammers on their service. [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 08:42, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
== [[Kobe]] ==
I tried to change the following part of the page
Hankyu Mikage station 御影駅 or Sumiyoshi station 住吉駅
Hanshin Sumiyoshi station 住吉駅 or Mikage station 御影駅
But the spam filter page is coming up with the whole page  {{unsigned|}}
: Looks like it was accidentally triggering on a pattern that I added to stop some spambots last week.  I've undone that pattern, and fixed the part of Kobe's text that was causing trouble just in case.  Thank you for pointing that out.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 01:33, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
== is removing competitors ==
How should we deal with this user? Could anyone help to explain him what's he is doing wrong? See []: the only competitor removal he made. --[[User:DenisYurkin|DenisYurkin]] 10:52, 27 October 2009 (EDT)
== goodnano-av dot com ==
Shows up frequently in spambot droppings, particularly the ones that create new pages; doesn't appear anywhere on the site otherwise, and doesn't appear to have any possible travel relevance.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 17:31, 27 October 2009 (EDT)
== Can't edit [[Wikitravel:Votes_for_deletion/June_2009]] ==
Im trying to add an entry to [[Wikitravel:Votes_for_deletion/June_2009]] but the page has spam entries, so now the spam filter thinks im adding spam, too. I parked my entry under [[Wikitravel_talk:Votes_for_deletion/June_2009]], please fix, and post my entry on the archive page. -- [[User:Eiland|Eiland]] 07:03, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
: Fixed. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:02, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
== ouarzazate-unlimited dot com ==
See [[Special:Contributions/Abdel]].  Spamming Morocco articles, and removed competitor listings in [ this edit]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 19:38, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
== Forum spam ==
OK, I'm officially hopeless ay regular expressions, can anyone come up with regular expressions that blocks
# all strings with something like "(forums?)*(dot)*(dot)(ru|cn|com|net)" - the two dots are important so we don't block sites like (one dot).
# all strings that includes "forums?,forward slash,member,php,equation mark" in any given order. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 23:03, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
: Here's my best shot for the first: [].  The second is significantly harder if you mean to have those five components in any arbitrary order.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 01:30, 30 October 2009 (EDT)
== jetluxuryresorts dot com ==
Appears to be an aggregator site, and thus does not meet the criteria in [[Wikitravel:External links]] and [[Apt]].  User is not responding to comments left on [[User talk:Jetluxury]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 15:43, 4 November 2009 (EST)
== Can't edit Huaraz page ==
Trying to correct a bunch of minor errors on the [[Huaraz]] page and the spam filter won't let me make any edits. I'm not trying to add any links, simply make minor informational edits. So I don't understand the point of the filter if it won't let the wiki act as a wiki and allow users to edit pages. Stymies the point of this whole endeavor. Thanks. {unsigned|}}
: The blacklist is used to prevent spammers - in this case someone had previously added a link to the article, and the link was later blacklisted, so current edits triggered the filter.  I've removed the problem listing, so you should be able to edit now. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 13:26, 8 November 2009 (EST)
== easy to holiday ==
An aggregator site, and thus not something that should be listed here per [[Apt]] and [[Wikitravel:External links]].  Has been re-added repeatedly to articles despite comments left in edit summaries pointing the [[Special:Contributions/|anonymous user(s)]] to the appropriate policies. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:01, 9 November 2009 (EST)
==booking dot com==
Userin [[User_talk:Anna_lev]] is very eager to add links to this aggregator site. I will put it on the black list because she is continuing after several warnings. [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 04:53, 11 November 2009 (EST)
: This pattern seems a bit generic - it's conceivable that a hotel chain could have valid listings that end in "booking dot com", so I updated it to "www dot booking dot com". -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 05:55, 11 November 2009 (EST)
== maisondusud dot fr dot gd ==
See [[User_talk:]].  Anonymous user keeps creating ad pages that cannot be reused; hoping this will nudge them to look at their talk page.  - [[User:Dguillaime|Dguillaime]] 22:43, 17 November 2009 (EST)
== dentaldoctor dot us ==
Several anonymous users keep deleting Understand section and add this link. I will add it immediately to the list to avoid further entries. [[User:Jc8136|jan]] 09:21, 20 November 2009 (EST)
== africabusiness dot com ==
I can't tell if [[Special:Contributions/|this]] is a real user or a bot, but every 5-9 minutes another Africa article gets updated with two links that are clearly inappropriate per [[Wikitravel:External links]], not to mention [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 18:32, 20 November 2009 (EST)
== farebusters dot com ==
Has been going around anonymously the last couple of days and swapping official airport url's for his own. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 05:30, 21 November 2009 (EST)
== southernresorts dot com ==
We've been getting spammed by this company for several years, with no response to notices left on talk pages.  See [[Special:Contributions/]] for the latest episode. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:35, 24 November 2009 (EST)
== aiguarentacar dot it ==
After spamming various Italian cities for a while, and being reverted, he/she has now resorted to adding the links to random destinations outside Italy too. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 13:53, 1 December 2009 (EST)
== westwindairservice dot com ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]].  I've left a note on the user's talk page and in edit summaries, but they seem intent on adding their listing to as many articles as possible.  To the anonymous user adding these links: read the [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] policy. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 19:08, 2 December 2009 (EST)
== rentalocalfriend dot com ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]] (and other anon IPs).  Listing is not in compliance with the [[Tour|tour listing policy]] and user is not responding to comments on talk page or in edit summaries. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 15:24, 3 December 2009 (EST)
== zoominearth dot it ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]].  Listing is not valid for Wikitravel per [[Apt]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:45, 4 December 2009 (EST)
== expo2010 dot travel ==
This [[Wikitravel:External links|non-official]] link has been [[Wikitravel:Edit war|repeatedly re-added]] to [[Expo 2010]] despite comments left in edit summaries and on [[User talk:Jimchiu]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 01:29, 8 December 2009 (EST)
== mbtmvp ==
See [[Special:Contributions/Kitty20091208]].  Adding advertising URL with absolutely ''no'' relevance to an assortment of pages, often overwriting valid listings in the process.  No response to their [[User_talk:Kitty20091208|talk page]], either.  - [[User:Dguillaime|D. Guillaime]] 02:05, 10 December 2009 (EST)
== celebrationsuites<!-- -->fl ==
[[Special:Contributions/]] is spamming several Florida articles and ignoring pointers to [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] that I've left in revert edit summaries and on the user's talk page. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:57, 10 June 2009 (EDT)
: After being added to the blacklist the user is back using a different URL... -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 21:04, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
Now I know Celebration Suites at Old Town was blocked because we violated the Wikitravel:Don't tout and we didn't notice the warning you left in the revert edit summaries. Can you remove our hotel and website from the blacklist? And when I post again I will obey the rules. Thanks. {{unsigned|Dwang}}
: Could you confirm that you've read [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]]?  Specifically, only list your business once, and only within the article for the location in which you actually operate, and do not use promotional language in the listing.  Generally if a site is removed from the blacklist, if the business in question violates the policy a second time then they are permanently blacklisted, so I'd just like to make sure that you understand where and how a business should be listed here before taking you off of the list.  Thanks! -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 12:27, 7 December 2009 (EST)
Now I know our post has violated the Wikitravel:Don't Tout and didn't notice the warning. We are a new starter here and didn't know the details. So can you remove our hotel and website from the blacklist? We will obey the rules when we post again in the future. Thanks. {{unsigned|Dwang}}
: I've removed the blacklisting, but please note the warning above - a site generally has to violate Wikitravel policy many times to be blacklisted, but after removal a second violation is generally sufficient for a permanent blacklisting.  Please make sure that you have read [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]], and note that even if it is not on the blacklist, editors may still remove your listing given that Disney-area articles generally have too many hotel listings to be useful. To help avoid that possibility it would be great if you could read [[Wikitravel:Welcome, business owners]] and add content to some of the articles about cities in your area, including info such as overviews of where the lodging is clustered, what to expect in terms of lodging quality, etc. rather than just adding a single business listing for your own advertising and promotion.  We often make the assumption that businesses willing to take time to work with Wikitravel are more likely to treat travelers well. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 11:05, 10 December 2009 (EST)
== 1cheaphotels dot com ==
This site is an aggregator site and thus is invalid for listing on Wikitravel per [[Wikitravel:External links]].  It's been showing up in a number of edits across the site from lots of different anonymous IP addresses over the past weeks, which looks to me like a sneaky attempt to get their URL in our guides. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 10:27, 11 December 2009 (EST)
==queviagem dot com==
This spammer hasn't been at it long, but he's hitting articles that I don't think anyone is watching. This should at least get his attention.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 11:35, 19 December 2009 (EST)
== backpackerscarmarket dot co dot nz ==
We've been having a great deal of trouble with anonymous edits on [[Buying or renting a car in New Zealand]] with edit warring, inserting multiple links, improving their entries while simultaneously degrading their competitors' entries, and so forth.  Most recently they've simply replaced links to other companies with their own, e.g. [].  Attempts to communicate via [[User_talk:|talk pages]] have been unsuccessful.  - [[User:Dguillaime|D. Guillaime]] 22:49, 21 December 2009 (EST)
we would like the black list to be removed for our link, we were unaware of the rules about the numbers of links in each section and appologise for this. as for removing competitors i think this subject needs to be looked into further as you will find that our entry was the first to be removed and then degraded with libelous comments edited into information about our company. the information we left was informative and unbiased and at no stage did we degrade our competitors. we did remove the competitors that had written untruths about us, and in retrospect perhaps this was over zealous, however we were not familiar with this section of the website and didn't know how to make our grievances known. there is still a lot of information that is incorrect in this section.
== bh-hotels dot com ==
Prolific hotel spammer in Italy. Tried to educate but user shifts IP's. Maybe this will catch some attention. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 07:22, 22 December 2009 (EST)
→ [[User_talk:]]
== puretravel dot com ==
Keeps spamming [[Talk:Vietnam]] from different IPs.  - [[User:Dguillaime|D. Guillaime]] 01:33, 23 December 2009 (EST)
== Italian Hotel spammers ==
I've been wondering about this for while; Either all the touty hotels added to our Italian guides are done by the same person/agency, or there is some sort of tool to format the listings into Wikiformat, possibly automatically, since they all take a form like this recent addition:
* [ Albergo Vicino Gardaland] – Via Montebaldo, - Cap: 37013, Caprino Veronese (VR), Telephone +39 045 6230934 • Fax +39 045 623 9504. Albergo Al Vignol situated at...
They all have those distinct dots, and ''always'' include the address written exactly this way. I was wondering if we could blacklist "Cap:", and see what happens. I did a quick search, crawled through a dozen of the search results, and cannot did not find anything innocent this would block, as long as the colon is included in the expression.
And maybe add a comment to the line like <nowiki>Cap: <!-- Please use the Hotels: template in the button of the page, and skip postcodes --></nowiki>
Just for while to see if it works anyway. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 20:29, 23 December 2009 (EST)
== in2vietnam dot com ==
See [[Special:Contributions/]].  Spamming a number of Vietnam articles with links to a [[Wikitravel:External links|random travel site]].  Pointers to the relevant policies have been left in edit summaries, but the user [[Wikitravel:Edit war|restores the links despite reversions]]. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 01:04, 26 December 2009 (EST)
: Hi, I tried to save my website page for my hotel (Ha Van Hotel Nha Trang) but the message below appeared when I put my website on the URL space (www dot in2vietnam dot com).  Can someone help?
:The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter.
:This is probably caused by a link to an external site.
:Wikitravel has strict policies about external links,
:so please review them to make sure you're in line. {{unsigned|}}
:: The explanation for your blacklisting is given above --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 21:36, 16 January 2010 (EST)
== HolidayCars dot com ==
I am writing to request removal from the blacklist for holidaycars dot com.  I had been publishing links in destinations where the business has operating partnerships AND where other car rental companies are listed with links.  I have read the policies for Wikitravel:Don't tout and Wikitravel:External links and do not understand any violation we may have triggered.  Can you please explain this to me?  Thanks. {{unsigned|Pchildress}}
: In pretty much your on words... because you do not rent out cars. We only allow for companies that actually do the renting. How many competitors do you have, 300-400? now imagine if each and every one of you added yourself to the 17.000+ locations, and it's easy to see why this would render our pages useless. Much more manageable with companies who has an actual office at the destination, and even then we don't allow any if there are more than 10. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 07:29, 26 December 2009 (EST)
::Stefan's comment should make it clear why your site cannot be listed. If you are willing to commit to ''not'' adding it further, I'm pretty sure we all would be willing to remove it from the blacklist. (A spam blacklisting at a respectable site is bad for business.)  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 15:39, 26 December 2009 (EST)
Thanks for the explanation; it's clear enough. I agree not to post anymore links, so I would appreciate your removing the site from the blacklist (as you said, its negative effects are potentially far-reaching).  Thank you in advance. {{unsigned|Pchildress}}
:Thank you for understanding. I have removed it.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 10:00, 28 December 2009 (EST)
== explorepantanal dot com ==
All efforts to get this company to abide by [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] have failed, so using the blacklist as a last resort.  See [[Special:Contributions/]] and [[Special:Contributions/]] (amongst several addresses used) for contribution history. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 22:47, 26 December 2009 (EST)
== removing backpackerscarmarket dot co nz ==
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: I've removed the entry.  I look forward to your contributions in making the article a [[Wikitravel:Be fair|fair]] and [[Wikitravel:The traveller comes first|helpful]] guide to travellers to [[New Zealand]].  --[[User:Inas|inas]] 17:43, 12 February 2010 (EST)
: I've removed the entry.  I look forward to your contributions in making the article a [[Wikitravel:Be fair|fair]] and [[Wikitravel:The traveller comes first|helpful]] guide to travellers to [[New Zealand]].  --[[User:Inas|inas]] 17:43, 12 February 2010 (EST)
== capeintern dot com ==
[[Special:Contributions/]] is not responding to pointers to [[Wikitravel:Don't tout]] and [[Wikitravel:External links]] left in edit summaries and on [[User talk:]].  Adding to the blacklist to avoid further additions. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] &bull; ([[User talk:Wrh2|talk]]) &bull; 13:01, 30 December 2009 (EST)
== loverio dot net and rentapartmentrio dot com ==
== loverio dot net and rentapartmentrio dot com ==

Revision as of 16:53, 12 November 2011

If reporting a problem with a domain, please write the name as site dot com instead of, or you will trigger the blacklist again! If your site is currently on the blacklist and you wish to have it removed please comment below under the section about why the site was blacklisted in the first place (if there is no such section create a new section). Note that sites blacklisted due to violation of Wikitravel policy will only be removed once the editor in question has indicated that they have read and understand the relevant Wikitravel guidelines. Repeat offenders will generally not be removed from the blacklist.


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removing backpackerscarmarket dot co nz

we would like the black list to be removed for our link, we were unaware of the rules about the numbers of links in each section and appologise for this. as for removing competitors i think this subject needs to be looked into further as you will find that our entry was the first to be removed and then degraded with libelous comments edited into information about our company. the information we left was informative and unbiased and at no stage did we degrade our competitors. we did remove the competitors that had written untruths about us, and in retrospect perhaps this was over zealous, however we were not familiar with this section of the website and didn't know how to make our grievances known. there is still a lot of information that is incorrect in this section, and we will continue to optimize this section so that it can be as useful as possible to visitors to New Zealand. We have now created an account as this seems to be the best way to go, and have read and fully understand the rules on these topics, many thanks.

Welcome to Wikitravel. You can review the history of the article [6] to get some idea of how disruptive your editing was. The article had to be protected due to the frequency of your disruptive edits. You were left multiple messages, but continued unabated until your site was blacklisted. There is no right of any business to be listed on Wikitravel, and I'm not convinced that you have the best interest of travellers to NZ in mind. --inas 18:18, 5 January 2010 (EST)
i can only appologise for the changes made, it appeared to me that someone was editing our entries/ and at times removing them completely as i assumed this was a competitor whose company was listed around the same time and started leaving all sorts of untruths about our company. as for messages i was unaware of any messages perhaps this was due to not having an account??? i would be interested to hear why you think these things. if you were to ask the 1000's of travelers that we have helped/ provided a good service to over the past 8 years i m sure they would disagree. but that is your opinion.
If you now have an account, can you please start signing your edits on this talk page? The signature button is second from the right on the toolbar of any edit screen. I will leave it to others more familiar with the history of your case to comment specifically. However, I will say that vandalising competitor listings and making other disruptive edits, and only thinking to stop and talk to us after you had been blacklisted, is not very smart. --Burmesedays 00:17, 8 January 2010 (EST)
ok thank you i didnt know how to do this, i understand that all records of edits can been seen so if someone would take the time to review them you will se that we were not the first to remove or vandalise anybodies edits. and as i have previously mentioned this section of the site was not known to me.--Backpackerscarmarket 19:42, 9 January 2010 (EST)

so if anyone actually bothers to check the edit history it is clear to see that i removed an edit from another, at the time, anonymous user which was making liabolous comments about my business whilst promoting another competitors business....mmmm. none of my edits have ever been abusive or liabolous. since that edit was made two or three users including inas have reverted my edits back to this anonymous users entry......a bit unfair and un substantiated dont you think??? i was as i have previously mentioned i was unaware of the login being so important nor of the rules about links or the talk facility etc so all i saw was various users continously removing my edits and replacing with lies made up by a competitor. i have since ceased removing these edits but still left a little confused as to the involvement of some apparently well respected members of this community in purveying malicious rumours. if someone would be so kind as to look into this and resolve the matter that would be great.--Backpackerscarmarket 22:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)

i have read and fully understand the relevant the wiki travel guidelines--Backpackerscarmarket 22:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Nonsense. I did no such thing. My only experience with and knowledge of your business has been your behaviour and interaction on this wiki.
I don't accept your naivety, the comments you claim you didn't see would have been right in front of you when you reverted the edits that you did. --inas 23:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)
Of course your edits have been abusive. You've been deleting competitors repeatedly [7][8], deleting them while simultaneously adding yourself [9][10][11][12][13], replacing their links with your own [14], replacing other companies with your own [15] and these are just a sample -- none of which involve even a negative comment about your company. Now, there was another anonymous user that was briefly involved in similar behaviour [16], but that was a single edit, subsequently reverted, and in no way justification for an ongoing edit war two months later after that user had left. -- D. Guillaime 00:48, 9 February 2010 (EST)

At this point I'm not sure there is a precedent for leaving a site on this list once the author is engaged, unless someone else knows of one. However, there is no guarantee your site will be listed here. --inas 23:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Actually, I do think there's precedent to leave sites on the blacklist despite author engagement. If either the behavior was egregious or the author is unrepentant, I don't see much reason to remove it. An apology and a clear commitment to not add their site again and to stop vandalizing articles would go some way towards building the good will for a removal, but I think we are under no obligation to poorly behaved touts. --Peter Talk 14:22, 9 February 2010 (EST)
The listing in question has been re-added to the article, albeit using a subpage of a consolidator webpage. Personally, I don't see it as an attempt to work within the guidelines, but rather a further attempt to work around them. We are talking used-car dealers here, I don't really know what standards of propriety we should expect. The options would either be to add the subsequent URL's here, or just take on the issue at the article itself. I'm inclined towards the latter. --inas 21:10, 10 February 2010 (EST)

my appologies inas i have taken another look back at the history and you are correct it wasn't you that reverted the edit back to the abusive edit that caused me to respond[[17]] , just to clarify we are not used car dealers, we do not sell cars we are a market, and we sell space to travelers to sell their own cars in. i have recently taken over the business and i have had a lot of problems with competitors trying to bad mouth us to bring the reputation of my business into disrepute and perhaps this is why i took the matter so personally, i can however promise that i will not involve my self with such behavior on this site again. --Backpackerscarmarket 15:00, 12 February 2010 (EST)

I've removed the entry. I look forward to your contributions in making the article a fair and helpful guide to travellers to New Zealand. --inas 17:43, 12 February 2010 (EST)

loverio dot net and rentapartmentrio dot com

See Special:Contributions/Mayimbe. I left a note on User talk:Mayimbe with pointers to the relevant policies, but spamming continued along with edit warring. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:10, 4 January 2010 (EST)

in-bucharest dot com

See Special:Contributions/ Site is not in compliance with the apartment rental listing policy and the user is edit warring. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:56, 4 January 2010 (EST)

archsanblas tripod com

Constant spamming of San Blas Islands and ignoring message left in edit summaries and on User talk: --Burmesedays 07:52, 5 January 2010 (EST)

editing Zadar page

I can't seem to edit at all because of the spam filter.

Hi! I deleted the direct croatia external link that seems to be blacklisted because it is an aggregator. You should be able to edit the page. Please sign your entries on talk pages with the ~ ~ ~ ~ so it is easier to follow the history. jan 09:52, 5 January 2010 (EST)

alfamahouse dot com

See Special:Contributions/ and Special:Contributions/Ortsac. User is ignoring pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout and Apt in edit summaries, on User talk:Ortsac, and engaging in edit warring. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:17, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Seven Windmills B&B

Keeps double listing his business in several Amsterdam districts, despite numerous requests to stop. Hope this will get some attention. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 05:01, 14 January 2010 (EST)


I am Seven Windmills B&B owner. Firstly, let me say what a wonderful site this is.

The Amsterdam main page 'Sleep' section suggested with hyperlinks that visitors only stay in the Old Centre or South district for accommodation.

This discriminated against the grachtengordel area and other areas of the city like the Jordaan where most of the better, safer accomodation actually is.

Berfore the 'Amsterdam' page was restructured so that the city is clinically divided into administrative regions, we had many enquiries and lots of happy guest (mostly families) staying in our B&B. When the format of the page was changed, and no link to the grachtengordel area existed in the 'Sleep' section our page hit rate went to zero, and enquiries virtually stopped because of the way the main page was written - with a focus on cheap travel for singles.

It took me a while to figure why the enquiries had stopped. When I saw this new format it was clear that this situation might not be considered fair by some inckuding myslef, with my small business.

I also noticed a saw a block of text from the CityMundo booking agency in the 'Sleep' section directing everyone to their booking engine - and also notice they are not blacklisted here like my business ? How can this be so ?

So, in response, may I ask that I be allowed to advertise on Wikitravel under the grachtengordel section, and that my alteration to the 'Sleep section' whith a link to the grachtengrodel be allowed to the remain on the Amsterdam page ?

Many Thanks, Kerk

I've removed your blacklisting, I can't find any links to CityMundo, but if you come across such links, feel free to remove it, as links to booking engines are not allowed per our external links policy. As for the nitty gritty bits on how the sleep section on the main page is set up - I hope some of our Dutch users can comment on that, maybe you can take the wording up on Amsterdam's talk page. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 21:07, 22 January 2010 (EST)

a2zrooms dot com

Booking agent inserting their email address and url into sleep lisitngs at Liverpool. --Burmesedays 08:03, 12 January 2010 (EST)

MS Salute

Keeps overwriting a competitor's entry in Hanoi, no response to talk page comments (anonymous IP). No URL, so trying the hotel's name instead to catch their attention. - D. Guillaime 23:59, 24 January 2010 (EST)

Thanks, good call. Gorilla Jones 00:43, 25 January 2010 (EST)

madagascat dot co za

I have gone out of my way to assist this user at User_talk:Madagascattravel but no response, and continues to spam various Madagascar articles with a booking site link. --Burmesedays 11:20, 30 January 2010 (EST)

iwasinturkey dot com

The site is in the spam list. Is it possible to remove the site from the list or give us the reason why the site is in the spam list? We will do all the necessary actions to clear the site's name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs)

Hi. The site wouldn't normally be allowed in Wikitravel, due to our policy on at Wikitravel:External links. More than likely the site was being repeatedly re-added after being removed. If the site isn't going to be added any longer, it can be removed from this list. --inas 22:01, 31 January 2010 (EST)

You can be sure that it will not be added any more.

Is there any news about this?

Any news with this issue? It has been almost 2 months.

I have removed it, but will be watching to make sure it is not reinserted, and that goes for text/personal rants from that site as well. --Peter Talk 21:12, 23 March 2010 (EDT)

too broad marine(dot)ru

Currently the following URL is not allowed, referring to a pattern 'marine(dot)ru' -> 'marine\.ru'


Probably the pattern should still allow anything that has a letter immediately following "(dot)ru". --DenisYurkin 14:05, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Baoshan district of Shanghai

I am trying to link to the official webpage of Baoshan district government in Shanghai but gets this message: "'baoshan dot sh dot cn' -> '\w+\.sh\.cn'", how can this be fixed?, ClausHansen 02:02, 8 February 2010 (EST)

That's a weird one. It was on the other spam blacklist as described on Wikitravel:Spam filter, which isn't user-editable. Since it seems way too broad to be safe, I added it to the whitelist, so you should be able to add the link now. -- D. Guillaime 02:31, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Panama Spammer

I've blacklisted these today, after continued spamming/vandalism on project pages, despite a pretty stern warning on the users talk page.

  • www|alemi2424|dot|blogspot|dot|com
  • alemi24|at|gmail|dot|com
  • www|villamichelle2|dot|blogspot|dot|com
  • valenciamichelle|at|gmail|dot|com - --Stefan (sertmann) talk 08:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)

GTV resort dot com

This spammer (User talk:Bandhavgarh, Special:Contributions/, special:contributions/ has been adding listings/links for his hotel across multiple articles, usually 3–4 times per article, and more obnoxiously uploading loads of images of his hotel to both :en and Shared. There is one legitimate place for this listing, but I have now removed that too [18], for as long as the website will remain blacklisted. --Peter Talk 11:59, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Edgewater Investment Group

To avoid spending 4 years on this user as Wikipedia has done, since he is apparently both relentless, persistent and thoroughly unable to work within online communites, I propose a blanket ban (blacklisting) on all Edgewater Investment Group websites.

More details here: Talk:Put-in-Bay. If in doubt, I urge you check out the many links to the users activities on Wikipedia --Stefan (sertmann) talk 13:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Given some of the rather shocking reviews and postings online, in combination with the user's on-site behavior, I wouldn't be opposed, although I'm also somewhat uneasy with the precedent of a preemptive blacklisting. Would it be acceptable to simply blacklist URLs that have been added to Wikitravel articles in the past, and state that future URLs added by this company are also subject to blacklist? -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:56, 15 February 2010 (EST)
Fine by me, although a cursory look at the Wikipedia debacle over this user, the huge number of websites and url's employed by this company, seems to be related to their inability to work with online communities. But I guess we can always adjust if it turns out to be true for Wikitravel as well. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 14:19, 15 February 2010 (EST)

www dot handy-sparen dot de & www dot handy dot de

Both sites are daily inserted in the Germany article and are a clear violation of our xl policies. Only reactio so far but spammer was that he changed the IP. jan 05:41, 18 February 2010 (EST)

The spammer got creative and started to insert handy-sparen dot de (without the www). I will add this variation to the spamlist too. jan 16:54, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
Is the version with www. necessary to have in the blacklist at all? A blacklist entry on "" should catch both "" and "", right? LtPowers 09:58, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
"www" should never be necessary. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:58, 12 June 2010 (EDT)

VecheaVama dot ro

An anon user is very persistently reinstating this link, which really doesn't seem to be official in any way, shame or form, despite claims of the opposite. Maybe this will get some attention so we can engage with the user. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 18:23, 21 February 2010 (EST)

deraghotels dot de

Has been reinstating apartments that are only bookable for 14 days or more, contrary to our policies in apt, hope to get some engagement so only hotels or apartment available for ordinary bookings are listed on Wikitravel. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 18:45, 21 February 2010 (EST)

paris-pyla dot fr

Listings that aren't in compliance with Apt keep getting re-added to Paris/5th arrondissement, Paris/6th arrondissement and Paris despite comments on talk pages and revert summaries. See Special:Contributions/, Special:Contributions/Sunduk, and probably others. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:51, 22 February 2010 (EST)

Don't understand ...

I tried to add a hotel-listing at the "Darjeeling"-page. Reads like this:

  • Bellevue Hotel Darjeeling, P O Box 28, The Mall, Darjeeling, W.B. 734101, India (Right at Chowrasta, the central square within the pedestrian zone), +91 354 2254075 (), [1]. checkin: 12.00 noon; checkout: anytime. Run by a Tibetan family for around forty years, the Bellevue Hotel features a modest, dry and warm interior, rooms are wood-panelled and - to Indian standards - clean. The ground floor accommodates several shops as well as the hotel's Internet-Café. Its WLAN covers almost every room of the hotel, free of charge. INR 800-2000.

Saving is blocked by Spam Filter.

Removed url -> Saving is blocked by Spam Filter.

Removed email -> Saving is blocked by Spam Filter.

Removed both -> Saving is blocked by Spam Filter.

So what? Does somebody know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Serkhang (talkcontribs)

It's possible that there is another listing on the page with something that is on the blacklist. I'll have a look. Nrms 14:39, 27 February 2010 (EST)
Yup - I can't even save the current page with no changes. This will take some sifting! Nrms 14:41, 27 February 2010 (EST)
OK, there was some text in a hotel listing that was on the blacklist. I've removed that text and succesfsfully saved the page. Try making your edit now. Nrms 14:50, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Works like a charm! Best thanks! I'm sorry for not signing my contribution, before. I only ticked the add-signature checkbox after submission. Newbie! Cheers serkhang 15:01, 27 February 2010 (EST)

No problem :) It's not compulsory to sign, but it just helps us know who we're working with. Any other problems, either drop a message on my talk page, or the Traveller's Pub is always a good palce to look. Glad to be of help. Nrms 15:05, 27 February 2010 (EST)

extremehotels dot com & swellsurfcamp dot com

The Cabarete article has been the subject of a long-running edit war between this business and another. I removed both from the article with a message on Talk:Cabarete that the owners would need to work out their differences before either could be re-added, but this listing has re-appeared several times since then so I'm adding it to the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:41, 1 March 2010 (EST)

Adding swellsurfcamp dot com as well as they've re-appeared in the article without first discussing. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:40, 8 March 2010 (EST)

Roman Homes

Copied from User talk:Romanhom

Hello, I am not familiar with editing in Wikitravel, and so I am not sure that this message will be read. If it is, please reply to this problem. I tried to write (in the "sleep" section of Rome) a brief description of our company Roman Homes, offering vacation rentals in Rome, also mentioning our website romanhomes dot com, but it doesn't go through. Seemingly our site is blacklisted. I read here that it could be that someone "removed competitor information". Now a few days ago an employee of mine said that because the policy instructed not to edit the website URL, than he removed all the URLs he found in the "sleep" section, because he believed that other competitors were violating your rule (!). Today I went to see the page he mentioned, and I found that the links of these competitors were there, and it wasn't possible to include a link to our site romanhomes dot com. Now I read that removing competitor information is a breach etc. Again this employee of mine thought that he was doing a good thing (!). Only now I understand that it was bad, and I am also glad that one can publish the URL of a website, to inform visitors about it. Can you kindly remove the "ban" on romanhomes dot com, as now we understand your policy, and we will abide by it? Thanks in anticipation. Mauro Abate - owner of Roman Homes, website romanhomes dot com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Romanhom (talkcontribs)

There have been repeated instances of this company removing competitor URLs, as well as numerous pointers provided to the apartment rental listing policy since this company does not seem to have a "real world office" listed anywhere that I could see on their web site. While the URL removals may indeed have been an honest mistake, based on past behavior and the fact that the site would not seem to qualify to be listed here I'd be hesitant to remove it without first getting some assurance that the site will not again engage in anti-competitive behavior, and that they have read & understand the guidelines for when it is OK to list a rental agency. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:53, 7 March 2010 (EST)
Copied from User talk:Romanhom
Hello Ryan,
I apologize again for the deletion of the URLs etc., as mentioned it was done in good faith by a collaborator of mine, who understood wrongly your policy (he believed that URLs should not be published, in fact he mentioned to me that he did not delete any text, but only the URLs, as you problably noticed).

We read well your policy, which I found in the link you prompted me to, and we agree with them. We honestly don't understand why you could not find the address and details of our agency, which I wrote in the edited text, and which can be also found in our website (please see the entry "Meet your guests" in the "Overview" drop-down menu of our site. The details are as follows. Roman Homes, address: Via Nettunense Nuova 65, 00040 Marino Rome (Marino is a little village in Rome's periphery, it is more ancient than Rome itself). Our phone numbers are: (+39) 069352216 or (+39) 3332420210. Our agency, working usually with exclusive rights agreement with the owners of vacation rental agencies, is one of the oldest and most reputable of Rome, operating since 1997, although it was active since 1990 as a cultural society of Rome University, hosting people coming to Rome for cultural purposes. Throughout the years, we have been pioneers in many aspects of this activity in Rome (first agency to organize in the 90s a network of room rentals for people coming to Rome solely for cultural reasons, first website in Rome to use digital photography and especially panoramic photos, first agency in Italy to organize online a car service etc.). Usually, our website is sadly plagiarized by copycats, for which we had to resort to lawsuits. Among the copycats, some of the other agencies edited in wiki Travel. For ex. the agency Rome Sweet Home began in 2001, editing their website largely by copying/pasting text and photos from our website, which is considered one of the best and most complete presenting Rome (and not only the sheer apartments rented). Should you require additional information, I will be glad to provide it. Thanks, and keep up your good work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Romanhom (talkcontribs)

I've removed this URL, but would encourage the site owner to carefully read the apartment listing policy as well as Wikitravel:Don't tout. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:54, 8 March 2010 (EST)

Thanks Ryan, and before posting anything I will read well again the apartment listing policy and also the "Don't tout", although it is sometimes hard to understand the borderline between the allowed or correct listing information, and what is touting. I will do my best, hopefully it will work out. Regards, Mauro.

This is a second message, after reading the apartment listing policy and also the "Don't tout" policy. We understood well both, and we'll do our best to follow the guidelines and the policies. Thanks again Ryan. Regards, Mauro Abate


Added in the slim hopes that it might halt some unusually dumb and sadly persistent vandalism. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:20, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

skijapantravel dot com

Travel agent that has consistently spammed Hakuba and other articles.--Burmesedays 09:21, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

mbt2sale dot com

One of the few spammers that consitently create nonsense articles about shoes and varies the text but not the link. jan 05:52, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

sagatravel dot is

Travel agent who spammed multiple Iceland articles. All were deleted and messages left, came back and did the same again.--Burmesedays 10:20, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

also myvatn dot net, which is the same agent back and posting the same tours. See here.


A very persistent tour guide from Nigeria who continues to place his ALL-CAPS listings on the top of articles from Africa to Nigeria to Calabar. See here, here, here, and I'm sure several others. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:24, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

I've also added "BEN USANG" for the same reasons as above. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:15, 14 June 2010 (EDT)
I've now also listed the user's phone numbers (2348053443045 and 2347029722727) as he returns on a near-daily business to spam the Calabar article. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:37, 14 July 2010 (EDT)

holidaysinkeramoti dot com

Persistant spamming sub Rome articles and talk pages. States in summary holidays in greece. jan 16:03, 24 March 2010 (EDT)

bedbugspictures dot net

Creation of spam articles (e.g. Bedbugs) that are always full of new xl violations. jan 10:15, 25 March 2010 (EDT)

vienna-cityapartments dot at

Several users tried to advise this business that their listing is against our Apt policy and started instead with front linkind and reinsertion. jan 04:45, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

Hello Ryan,

what can I do that you remove my site from the blacklist? Please help me.

Greetings from Vienna Guido

This was today (bizarrely) posted in the 2008 archives:
Hello, why is my apartment url on the blacklist here. I dont understand. Please help me about this. Vienna Cityapartment at is my site. Im the Owner of the 4 Apartments in Vienna. Guido
I suggest you read the above.--Burmesedays 23:29, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

I dont understand why I´m on the Blaclist here. Please help me to remove me from the blacklist. I´m not a travel agency. Here are many Privat apartments with their link. Why cant I do this? Please help....Kind regards Guido

You persistently edit-warred after your link was correctly removed from Vienna. If you took the trouble to read Wikitravel:Accommodation_listings#Apartment_listings you would see why - no real world address provided amongst other things. On top of that your listing was badly formatted with a front link drawing attention to it, and kept appearing at the top of the list, rather than in alphabetical order. Messages to this effect were left in the edit history at Vienna but ignored.--Burmesedays 09:55, 30 March 2010 (EDT)


who can help me to remove my homepage fron the blacklist. I will put my apartment on the right place here und add my adress. Please help me here. Im sorry about the the mistakes that I did. Thank you forwarding. Kind regards


I'm afraid you haven't made a very good case as to why your site should NOT be blacklisted. Sites aren't added to the blacklist unless there have been repeated violations, including ignoring pointers left by other users. If that's the case with your business then I'm not sure that Wikitravel is an appropriate venue for you to advertise on. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:37, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
Also you re-added your business with the same url but instead of dot at you changed to dot com which is just circumventing our blacklisting. jan 10:44, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Hello Ryan,

please give me a second chance for my site dot at here. Thie is my mainside. In the future I will follow the rules here. Thanks forwarding for your help. Kind regards Guido

cretan-nutrition dot gr

Violation of dt and xl plus frontlinking in the Crete food section. jan 04:56, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

baylodging dot com, islandclub dot com, and putinbayresort dot com

See Talk:Put-in-Bay#Edgewater Investment Group. --Peter Talk 22:55, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

begin of the skype highlighting

It seems like a Skype plugin is broken and is adding meta tags when certain users edit articles. Hopefully blacklisting this tag will solve the problem. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:45, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Skype highlighting?

swept in from pub:

For the skype uninitiated, could someone explain why edits like this [19] are occurring? Is there anything we can do to stop this from happening? --Peter Talk 10:29, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

Peter, Skype is similar to an instant messenger but when you look at a page and skype is activated plus the skype highligt you can immediately call the number. It's rather a nuisance imho because when a page is full of it then virtually any number can be imediately called via your skye account. It's called skype out and you can call through this any phone number in the world. In essence it turns an article in a virtual yellow page site and you can call all phone numbers. I think it's a promotional tool and therefore i work hard to delete it. Also it's against our way we format listings because it doesn't benefit the reader (and especially the editor) and is just a tool to easier call a business. jan 10:39, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
I've added the term in question to the blacklist - hopefully whatever plugin is causing the breakage will be fixed soon. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:47, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

villabrasilmotel dot com

At Santa Monica, user pasted his listing over the top of an existing competitor and then inserted his url into six other listings, deleting the correct urls. --Burmesedays 01:45, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Wow, then did the same thing to the Hollywood article. I think that's blatant enough that no matter what the future excuse might be, this one stays permanently blacklisted. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:59, 11 April 2010 (EDT)


Why is Angelfire on the blacklist? I've got a Buy listing whose web site is on Angelfire. LtPowers 22:56, 23 April 2010 (EDT)

I don't see anything on any of the blacklist talk pages, so I'd say go ahead and remove it. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:03, 23 April 2010 (EDT)

galapagosonline dot com

I've removed this one numerous times from the Galapagos Islands article because the site is a reseller of tours, not an actual operator, but it continues to be re-added. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:36, 28 April 2010 (EDT)

zanys dot com

Rental agency that spams Beijing, Shanghai and other Chinese articles with their promotion and ignored warning. Finally started to edit warring, so block and blacklist. jan 05:57, 29 April 2010 (EDT)

mommitaslodge dot jimdo dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

sandovallodge dot jimdo dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

shirlbaywalkpensionhouse dot webs dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

coronvillahermosaguesthouse dot webs dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

orientallodginghouse dot webs dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

amorpensionhouse dot webs dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:15, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

coronsunriseinn dot jimdo dot com

User_talk:Zaldyangulo or anonymously User_talk: continiously enters his business in the Coron and Busuanga Island article in a very touty way and ignored several warning by multiple users. I'm going to blacklist all of his regular entries. jan 07:27, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

extremeiceland dot is

This address has now been added and reverted three times from Talk:Iceland. To the user who keeps doing this: talk pages are for discussing the corresponding article, not for advertising a business. In a similar vein, please read our policy on listing tour companies. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:42, 1 May 2010 (EDT)

grammy dot com

Anon user has spammed several articles with this link. It violates several policies. jan 04:20, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Potentially useful in the Los Angeles/Downtown article, but it's probably not a big loss. LtPowers 06:56, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

lidodivenezia dot it

This hotel booking site keeps adding about a dozen links to the Venice/Lido article, despite pointers to Wikitravel:External links. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:18, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

Hoianeasyriders dot wordpress dot com blocked

I made an entry a while ago for a local business in vietnam ( and some punk recently removed it.

See: Hoi An Easyriders (Hoi An Easyriders)

I've attempted to add it back in but when I attempt to save it with the url="Hoianeasyriders dot wordpress dot com I get a spam block notification.

I don't know why it is blocked but it is very frustrating. I would like to add the URL back in. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Davidgelman (talkcontribs)

The "punk" who deleted the listing consists of at least four of this site's administrators - see the edit history for the article. Edit warring and removing competitor listings is a pretty serious violation of site policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:24, 15 May 2010 (EDT)
And you just made it worse by reinserting a different url, which has now also been blacklisted easyridersadventure dot wordpress dot com.--Burmesedays 10:02, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

Expanded out the pattern a bit to catch new attempts including overwriting of competitors, cf. [20]. -- D. Guillaime 20:34, 12 February 2011 (EST)

mahindrahomestays dot com

See Special:Contributions/Mahindrahomestays. I'm not sure whether this site is valid for listing here per our accommodation guidelines, but the mass updates of improperly formatted listings are clearly not inline with the SEO policy, and the user hasn't responded to messages left on his/her talk page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:27, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

suites-et-compagnie dot com

This listing is not in compliance with the apartment listing policy, but despite pointers to that guideline it has been re-added to Bordeaux at least four times. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:08, 17 May 2010 (EDT)


I added for the city of Jamshedpur(India), the following:


  • BHATIA Milk Shake Store - Its app. 200 m opposite from Bank of Baroda, in the Bistupur Market. Just ask locals where it is exactly from Bank of Baroda. They have got the best MilkShakes in town, best recommende from myside is Chocolate and Rose, for me being an European I did not encounter any stomach problems, but better ask for it without Ice, to be sure. Starts from Rs. 15

There is no URL or anything, has someone an advice? —The preceding comment was added by (talkcontribs)

Chances are that there is an item from the blacklist already in the article, rather than in the text you're trying to add. Unfortunately, that makes it hard to find. LtPowers 15:45, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
It should be OK now - one of the phone numbers was blacklisted. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:49, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

hotelsneardelhi dot com

Several links in the understand section in cities and towns around Delhi in blatant form. jan 06:51, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

peacemission dot info

I am trying to update a link to our church's website from the old one fdipmm dot libertynet dot org to the new www peacemission dot info but its getting spammed. What should I do?

Which article are you trying to edit? --Peter Talk 13:30, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

I'm sorry, it is this one: on Woodmont Palace Mission Inc. Thank you

I've removed the record that was triggering the blacklist in that article. -- Ryan • (talk) • 20:51, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

Thanks a lot, it worked!

nanuksbungalows dot com

See the history of the Nusa Lembongan article - anonymous user(s) have been replacing numerous URLs on the page with this one and have ignored all warnings (per Wikitravel:Don't tout) to stop. From the article history this looks to be a particularly egregious abuse. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:12, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

You beat me to it Ryan. These guys have had many months of rope but did not stop and have finally hung themselves.--Burmesedays 07:27, 22 May 2010 (EDT)

loveblogspot dot com

Spambot that create new sites all having a link to the above mention site. jan 11:20, 22 May 2010 (EDT)

nexgenam dot com

Spamming Talk:Main page is not only egregious, it is stupid. User has already been warned in the past. --Peter Talk 10:04, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

hoteldeals dot ae

See Special:Contributions/ User has been spamming us with hotel aggregator links and isn't responsive to comments left on his/her talk page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:47, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

travelgrenada dot com

Rather ballsy ongoing spam at Grenada. If user replies and agrees to stop, please remove from blacklist. --Peter Talk 20:20, 1 June 2010 (EDT)


I am having difficulties in editing Coorg please could you help? It says some spam filter is blocking things. Fredericknoronha 17:21, 3 June 2010 (EDT) Fredericknoronha

Fixed. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:27, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

noxedge dot com

Spamming the talk page of our main page is stupid and frontlinking makes it only worse... jan 07:22, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

gringorent-a-car dot com

Spamming our Margarita Island unser username Mustsee and with anon IP. Has been warned but kept inserting. jan 11:26, 5 June 2010 (EDT)

The entry itself, though, would appear legit? A local car hire provider in the area? Although I'm no fan of touty entries, I think time may have been saved in this instance by just formatting the entry, rather than an edit war, article protection and spam list adding. --inas 20:21, 7 June 2010 (EDT)
Inas, i'm now in contact with the business owner and it was a lot of hassle so all others know what happens to this very touty entries. I think in the long run it will be beneficial for WT because otherwise we have huge lists of rental companies with negative value.jan 11:30, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

I was unaware of the talk feature and thought someone was removing the information out of spite or compitition. I will follow the rules and apologize for not understanding. Please remove from the spam list. Thanks, MustSee

Thank you for your acknowlegdment and i will remove it from the blacklist. jan 11:24, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

Hi Jan, a competitor has been deleting/changing the Margarita Island board and I need help. Thanks MustSee 13:23, 17 October 2010 (EDT)

YOUR most recent edit removed your competitor's listings, so it's a bit disingenuous to say that you are a victim here. In any case, as discussed at Talk:Margarita Island I've rewritten the "Get in" section and removed the individual car rental company listings - the amount of time being devoted to this edit war is not worth it. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:34, 17 October 2010 (EDT)

Hi Ryan, sorry I am not real sharp with a computer. Since those listings contained incorrect phone numbers, I didn't see the harm. If you look at the history you will see this spammer has been up to this for awhile, just recently posting other companies. The spammer is only out to cause harm. I asked Jan for help in my talk section awhile back, but I must have done something wrong. If I goofed I apologize.

I noticed the states " Rental cars operators, in cities where they are common (10 or more operating in the city). Typically we don't provide details of national car rental chains in local guides. Providing details at the national level, and mentioning the name and location at local level is sufficient if required."

Since GRC is the only car rental agency in Playa El Yaque, I am requesting that a link be permitted to be placed under the Playa El Yaque portion. If you think it should say something other then what it does I will need help in formatting because computers are not my bag. Thanks MustSee 16:23, 17 October 2010 (EDT)

Maybe this will help? Cheers MustSee 20:27, 17 October 2010 (EDT)

sheraton dot com/senggigi

Sadly a nice hotel in Senggigi has started to spam our article with multiple listings. Several warnings have made and efforts to contact them. The Sheraton still spams the article so we need to blacklist them because otherwise business owners in the region will cry foul. Please revert on spot. jan 03:38, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

Whoever's doing it seems more confused than anything else. Sometimes I wonder how much of this sort of thing is simple ignorance of wiki customs (talk pages, edit summaries, etc.) and how much is malicious in nature. LtPowers 09:05, 7 June 2010 (EDT)
Lt:Powers: In this region it has become more and more common to spam our article. Nanuk's Bungalow from Nusa Lembogan started the same way (and is blacklisted now,too). The region is not so well covered by the Lonely Planets etc. so our articles are pretty high up in the google ranking. I think some don't know what they are doing but the majority is very experienced what they do (and interested to stay in the article). See e.g. User_talk:Jc8136/Archives#Nusa_Lembongan_page_and_Mainski Cheers jan 09:48, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

travelingtolisbon dot com

Non-compliant Apartment agency that continiously places ther listing in Lisbon and has been reverted by most active admins in the last weeks. jan 05:33, 8 June 2010 (EDT)

barcelonacheckin dot com

One of the bunch of aparment agencies that keep spamming our Barcelona in multiple ways and occasions. jan 07:54, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

Time to trim the blacklist?

There are some disadvantages to having a long blacklist - large regular expressions are slower, it's tougher to manage a long list, and some of our patterns may be overly broad or targeted to specific users who are no longer vandalizing the site (example: (Yangshuo).*(Julie)). Would anyone mind beginning a process to try to trim this list down a bit by removing some of the more obvious cleanup targets? If something is removed that triggers an increase in spam we can always re-add it later, but I think it's probably time to get rid of some of the phone number patterns and similar items that may have outlived their usefulness. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:03, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

The following patterns were added prior to June 2009 and haven't been modified since, so I've pulled them out as test cases:
© 20\d\d
-- Ryan • (talk) • 22:16, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

www dot africanbluetours dot com

Continious violation of dt and tours plus places ad in most South African articles. I tried to contact but no reaction. jan 03:43, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

Error in Digha article

When I wanted to revert this mass, unexplained removal, I've been notified about a blacklisted link in the article. As far as I can see, there is only one external link in the article (the one at the intro), and I can't tell whether it really is an official homepage (and thus really deserves to be at the top), but it certainly is not blacklisted (or, at least I couldn't notice it in the list). How to get around this problem? – Vidimian 04:52, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

Hi! I just tried and was able to save the article. Please try again and otherwise log in and out (sometimes that solves the problem). jan 05:05, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
Nope, logging out and in did not work. Could you please try undoing that edit I mentioned yourself, so we can see if the problem is somehow restricted to me or anybody trying to undo that edit goes through the same? – Vidimian 05:12, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
Burmeseday already did it. If the problem continues maybe ask Ryan as he knows a lot of good tricks. jan 05:16, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
Isn't that edit made after Burmesedays took care of something else? Or am I too sleepy to be able to see clearly? – Vidimian 05:21, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
I just tried to revert it as well, and also was blocked by the spam filter – cacahuate talk 05:46, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
One of the phone numbers in a hotel listing was the culprit. I think that this is a further argument in favor or pruning old blacklist entries as we seem to be causing some unintended collateral damage. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:37, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

Hostel Ukraine dot com

Business owner appears to be deleting competitor info and replacing it with his own. That's about as shameful an edit that one can possibly make on Wikitravel, so I'm happy to add this one to the blacklist. --Peter Talk 22:44, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

Can we get this one off the blacklist?

I have no connection with the management or owners of this place, I just wanted to add it as a useful piece of information:

http://www dot sitio-do-alemao dot 20fr dot com/ Mariusm98 12:19, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

20fr dot com is being blocked from the main Mediawiki blacklist. We could theoretically whitelist it here, but in general we won't do so without a good reason - what is the site you're trying to link to? It looks to me like a guide about a region, which wouldn't be in accordance with our Wikitravel:External links policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:50, 23 June 2010 (EDT)


A gift shop owner has now re-added this listing to the Bali article four times and ignored requests to stop. Individual businesses go in city articles, not region articles, and given the user's behavior this seems like a toury advertisement and thus isn't something we even want in city articles. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:15, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

manalimedicalaid dot ning dot com

Major spam attack ongoing and one of the regular sites listed. jan 15:37, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

studentdoctor dot net

Major spam attack ongoing and one of the regular sites listed. jan 15:43, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

connect dot cityname dot com

Major spam attack ongoing and one of the regular sites listed. jan 15:54, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

I've consolidated the pattern slightly. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:26, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

Amethystbangalore DOT Com

Hi, Tried adding some content, ot says something about spam filter.. Not sure what it refers to as the listing was genuine and not spam. Can some one pls help. —The preceding comment was added by (talkcontribs)

It would be really helpful if you could tell us what article you were trying to edit. LtPowers 09:10, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

wanndo dot com

See Special:Contributions/Happyclick and Special:Contributions/ The URL that keeps getting re-added to articles isn't even a functional site ("coming soon"), but it appears from the listing text that this is an attempt to market a t-shirt. The same user has previously spammed us with advertisements for a volcano tourism outfitter. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:01, 14 July 2010 (EDT)

expeditiontrips dot com

This link keeps getting re-added to the Antarctica article on a near-daily basis, despite pointers in edit summaries and on user talk pages to the Tour and Wikitravel:External links policies. It looks like a decent site, but they list tours offered by other companies and thus is not appropriate for listing here according to our guidelines. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:50, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

skisilverthorne dot com

An anonymous user has been returning every morning to re-add this listing to six or seven different articles despite being provided pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout. See Special:Contributions/ and Special:Contributions/ -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:25, 4 August 2010 (EDT)

falafelbus dot com

Repeatedly added and re-added to numerous Middle Eastern articles, from country-level on down (like so and so). User hasn't responded to requests to stop, see User talk:Deanot78. — D. Guillaime 02:40, 11 August 2010 (EDT)

Barcelona Apartments blacklist

Should not be listed at all, as they don't comply with our apartments policy:

Should not be in district articles, as they offer apartments in more than one disrict:

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DenisYurkin (talkcontribs)


Hello, I am trying to add a guest house I stayed at to the list of budjet accomadation in Bishkek. It wont let me and refers me here. Perhaps I am making some mistake, I am not sure. There are two email addresses and two phone numbers involved but I tried it without them, in otherwords just a sentence and I was still blocked. Could someone please explain this to me. Thank you.

What I want to add is:

Sabyrbek's Guest House, +996 312 300710, +996 312 300710, The home of the famous Kyrgyz author T. Sydykbekov, is now managed by his son the amiable Sabyrbek. It is very centrally located. 21 Razzakova (just south of Moscovskaya), opposite the German embassy. Guests are welcome to use the kitchen facilities and internet is available.

It looks like you were able to add the business correctly in this edit. I tried a test edit on that article and didn't encounter any problems, but please provide additional information if you're still having issues. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:01, 14 August 2010 (EDT)

Thanks, I have never done this before so I am not clear as to how it works. The first few times i tried to post it by editting the budget accomadation section that is when i encountered the problem mentioned above. I then noticed the add listing button for Sleep in general, that is the sucessful edit you have pointed out. However, I can only see that edit if I use the link you placed above. If I just open the Bishkek page it is not there some delay? Also I dont see any way of placing the new listing under the buget heading instead it is alone above that between sleep and the budget subheading. How do I change this? I realize this is not really the place for questions like this but I dont know what is, if you could help I would really appreciate it.

You may need to reload the page in your browser to see the latest version. I've moved the listing to the "Budget" section, which can be done by clicking "edit" and moving the appropriate content. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:56, 15 August 2010 (EDT)


I'm hoping to discourage the neverending attempts to get phone numbers for a certain few hotel booking agencies in the lovely city of Kolkata, for hotels in other towns, among which Mandarmani of course ranks high in importance. --Peter Talk 17:25, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

I also added a [Kk]olkata.?[Cc]ont expression, which should hopefully catch a few more. --Peter Talk 17:29, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

I've tried repeatedly to post the following today but am getting prevented:

Deputy High Commissions

  • Bg-flag.png Bangladesh, Circus Ave (Just E of AJC Bose Rd), +91 33 2290 5208/5209 (After hours +91 33 2288 6536, fax: +91 33-2288-1616). Issues 15-day visas. Applications are received at window #4 M-F from 9AM-11AM, and visas are generally ready the next afternoon. Bring 3 passport photos.
  • De-flag.png Germany, 1 Hastings Park Rd, Alipore, ++91 33-2479 1141/1142/2150 (+91 33 2439 8906, fax: +91 33-40048168). The origins of the German consulate in Kolkata can be traced to before the existence of Germany itself, to the establishment of the consulate of the kingdom of Hanover in 1851 and the consulate of Prussia in 1854.
  • Ja-flag.png Japan, 55, M. N. Sen Lane, Tollygunge, +91 33-2421-1970 (fax: +91 33-2421-1971), [3].
  • Uk-flag.png United Kingdom, 1A Ho Chi Minh Sarani, +91 33 2288 5173~76 (After hours +91 33 2288 6536, fax: +91 33-2288-1616).
  • Us-flag.png United States, 5/1, Ho Chi Minh Sarani, +91 33-3984 2400 (, fax: +91 33-2282 2335), [4]. It is the oldest diplomatic post of the U.S. in India, and the second oldest in the world (the oldest being in London). Benjamin Joy was appointed the first American Consul to Kolkata by George Washington in 1792, upon the express recommendation of then- Secretary of State, Thomas Jefferson. (Note that the ironic address was the result of a diplomatic snub by the then Marxist Bengal government during the period of the U.S. war in Indochina.)

Zepppep 17:20, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

What page are you posting this on? There's probably text on that page that is triggering the filter. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:25, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

Gorumara.*[blacklisted expression]

Enough w/ the freaking West Bengali spamming... --Peter Talk 13:12, 19 August 2010 (EDT)

I've dropped the Gorumara and have simply blacklisted the word in question: backwards is kahcnaP. --Peter Talk 17:41, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

indiandestination dot com

Another indian spammer plasters his ads in a wide range of articles throughout India. Has not stopped after warning and instead increased his spam intensity. jan 09:33, 2 September 2010 (EDT)


This listing has been removed from Marrakech at least ten times now with pointers provided to the Tour policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:08, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

www dot free hostel dot pl

In Kraków/Kazimierz#Budget, it appears there is a hostel which actually is named "Free Hostel". The web site is activating the spam filter. It appears in an older version of the record: [24] In fact the address was in both email and website fields of the listing (should be just one). I left the article with {{districtguide}} added but with website and email gone for this listing. The hotel comes up with this name when listing hostels in Krakow on other websites. --Bill in STL 20:43, 8 September 2010 (EDT)

I've removed the "freehost" pattern that was triggering this. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:19, 8 September 2010 (EDT)
Why not just modify the pattern to "freehost\."? LtPowers 08:23, 9 September 2010 (EDT)
We could do that, too, but our blacklist is getting excessively long and started to produce a number of false positives, so per #Time to trim the blacklist? I figured it could just be removed and if we start getting spam with that pattern then it can be re-visited. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:18, 9 September 2010 (EDT)

www dot omeida dot com dot cn

I don't know why I can't save the web address above. It's the official website of Omeida Chinese Academy. Please help to remove this site from the blacklist. Thank you very much! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lsz0719 (talkcontribs)

That pattern doesn't appear to be on our blacklist, so it's possible that it is on the default Mediawiki blacklist or that something else is triggering the spam filter. What article are you trying to edit? -- Ryan • (talk) • 22:46, 12 September 2010 (EDT)

Hello Ryan! I was trying to put the website onto the following pages:

[25] [26]

I can only save the website as www.omeida\ Whenever I try to save it as www dot omeida dot com doct cn it says "The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter.This is probably caused by a link to an external site." The same thing happens when I try to save the email address info@omeida dot com dot cn on to the page.--Lsz0719 20:35, 13 September 2010 (EDT)[[User:lsz0719] • (talk) • 22:46, 12 September 2010 (EDT)

That pattern is on the base Mediawiki blacklist, which generally means that at least one of the Mediawiki sites has experienced significant spam from that URL. Given that they both point at what seems to be the same Chinese language school I'm hesitant to remove the pattern without a very good reason to do so - we've already got a number of language schools listed in our guides, so unfortunately I'm not sure that this one warrants an exception to the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:51, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

Thanks for your reply, Ryan. Is there any information we could provide to let you consider remove our website from the blacklist? Our school is the biggest Chinese language school in Yangshuo. I'm sure it is worth being listed on Wikitravel guides.--Lsz0719 03:11, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

Personally, I'd want to know why the site is on the Mediawiki blacklist. A site can get on that list because its owners spammed a Mediawiki site, or one of its servers was compromised and was used for spamming, or for several other reasons. My understanding is that it's fairly difficult to get on the Mediawiki blacklist, so once a site is on there I think we should respect that list unless there is a really good reason to make an exception. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:10, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

moroccantravels dot com

See Special:Contributions/Morocco, Special:Contributions/, Special:Contributions/, and probably others. All pointers to Tour and Wikitravel:Don't tout have been ignored, with listings re-added to multiple sections of the Morocco article several times per day for several days. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:42, 22 September 2010 (EDT)

Generalized to remove the .com, to catch attempts like this [27]. — D. Guillaime 22:09, 22 September 2010 (EDT)
I've removed the "s" in "travels" as this user is persisting. While we sometimes remove patterns from the blacklist if users read these messages and agree to abide by our policies, in this case the touting seems so egregious that I would highly recommend that this business not be permitted to place any listings at all on Wikitravel. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:34, 24 September 2010 (EDT)
I think it's fine to block these guys as most of them are really persistant and Marocco is heavily touted... jan 10:44, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Can't add my listing for Assisi, Umbria

I am trying to add

  • Brigolante Guest Apartments (Brigolante Agriturismo), Via Costa di Trex, 31 (6 km outside Assisi along SP 444 toward Pian della Pieve), +39-075-802250 (, fax: +39-075-802250), [5]. checkin: 4 pm; checkout: 11 am. Vacation rental apartments in historic stone farmhouse near Assisi. €475/week. (latitude,longitude)

in Assisi, Umbria but I keep getting an edit error. What am I doing wrong?!? I am following the template provided.

There was a URL already on that page that triggered the blacklist. I've removed it, so the article is again editable, but please read our guidelines for apartment listings. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:19, 25 September 2010 (EDT)


This user has been busily adding the official tourism web site for the country of South Korea to dozens of articles. Since per Wikitravel:External links this link is appropriate for the South Korea article (and only the South Korea article) a permanent blacklisting is inappropriate, but how would people feel about temporarily removing it from the South Korea article and then adding it to the blacklist as a way to try and get this user's attention? It is a waste of time for the user to keep adding it to articles, and a waste of time for patrollers to then revert those additions. Since the user isn't responding to talk page messages I'm not sure what other options are available. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:26, 14 October 2010 (EDT)


A tour operator has added this listing to Kumbakonam at least a dozen times, and been reverted with pointers provided to the Tour and advertising policies each time. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:08, 16 October 2010 (EDT)


See Special:Contributions/Mohd_faidi. User has been giving multiple pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout and continues to spam Jordan and other articles. -- Ryan • (talk) • 10:09, 23 October 2010 (EDT)


See Special:Contributions/Rita_KC. There isn't even any pretense of usefulness for travelers - the user is simply deleting large chunks of articles and adding in spammy advertising. I deleted the user page and am quickly blacklisting this one as I suspect she will hit as many articles as possible. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:26, 26 October 2010 (EDT)

shankarpur dot co dot in

As far as I'm aware Shankarpur is our current most regularly spammed article - touts have been changing phone numbers nightly in that article for months. Lately the above URL has also been appearing in the article. Some pointers were provided to Wikitravel:External links, but as the link continues to regularly be re-added and reverted it's worth adding to the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:54, 3 November 2010 (EDT)


An anonymous user keeps returning to place seven copies of the same listing on the Similan Islands (two examples of several: here and here). Pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout in edit summaries and on talk pages haven't worked, so let's give the blacklist a try. -- Ryan • (talk) • 22:22, 29 November 2010 (EST)

I can't edit the 'Get in' list. Here's my change "

By train

Malda is well connected by Railways. There are some direct trains from the local main station, i.e. Malda Town; connecting Bangalore, Chennai, Bhubaneswar, Kolkata, Dibrugarh, New Delhi etc."

What's wrong here?

John, in the Malda had been some spam filter items from professional Bengali spammer that pester our articles in that area. I cleaned the article and you can now edit the whole article. jan 10:37, 17 December 2010 (EST)

Thanks @jan

hawaiianpaddlesports dot com

See Special:Contributions/ User added five or more listings to the Maui article and did not respond to pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout left in the article history and on the user's talk page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:16, 31 December 2010 (EST)

Editing Coorg page

I'm trying to edit the iteneriary section and add the below text and it's triggering a spam filter. The roads leading to Talavauvery is pretty bad after the recent rains.--Gowthammano 05:32, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Hi Gowthammano! One of the spas triggered our spam list. I cleared it and it should now work. jan 08:23, 17 January 2011 (EST)

thebrightonremovalcompany dot co dot uk

I'm not sure if it's a bot or a real person, but this hauling company has spammed us with advertisement articles twice in the last two hours. It's in no way travel-related, so adding to the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:15, 18 January 2011 (EST)

palazzogiovanni dot it

See Special:Contributions/Silvio77. User has returned repeatedly over the last two days to push a link to articles ranging from towns to Italy and even to Europe. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:23, 20 January 2011 (EST)

Also cataniabb dot it and bedandbreakfastmare dot it. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:23, 28 January 2011 (EST)

explorenorthkorea dot com

This company is repeatedly re-added to the North Korea article. See Talk:North Korea#Travel Agencies for the reason why this was originally removed. -- Ryan • (talk) • 22:50, 24 January 2011 (EST)

Oanvoanc 10:28, 26 January 2011 (EST):as i mentioned in the "discussion paragraph" of northkorea - tours already: i travelled with explore n. korea tour group in march 2010 and had no problems with them. the communication was very good (skype and mail) before and after the trip. i have no idea what happened here exactly with this url (adding and removing) but i wouldnt hesitate to recommend this company for ppl who want to travel nk on small budged.

please also dont hesitate to contact me by mail: zzzair [at] gmail dot com
Hi Zacharias! nk-tours violated continiously our policies. They have been warned and choosen to ignore our warnings also they did several false comments about competitors. Therefore they will stay pretty long on our blacklist. jan 11:01, 26 January 2011 (EST)

This business is now trying to evade the blacklist by using URL redirectors (e.g. [28]) rather than cleaning up their act, so I'm expanding the pattern a bit. User has a long and exceedingly annoying history, and has also started using proxies to (thinly) disguise their activities; it's pretty easy to find on almost any edit to the Tours section dating back to roughly October 2009, and you'll find a lot of the early mischief from Special:Contributions/, before the evasion really started. — D. Guillaime 20:26, 27 January 2011 (EST)

shanghaipathways dot com

Keeps re-adding fairly spammy entries to Shanghai that aren't at all tour-compliant (example: [29]), even after being pointed at it on their comment on Talk:Shanghai#Deletion. Hoping this gets their attention instead; shouldn't need to stay in place forever. — D. Guillaime 01:30, 1 February 2011 (EST)

cheapoair dot com

This is a bucket site that will never be appropriate for use here per Wikitravel:External links. See Special:Contributions/ - user replaced numerous valid hotel URLs with this one. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:55, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Dharamshala Page

I tried to edit this page originally adding the Dalai Lama's website www dot dalailama dot com I got the spam error. Assuming it was because of the URL I entered I hit the back button and removed this url. Saved again and was still getting the spam error. So went back and took out all URL's (which I didn't enter) noticed some were of businesses so this may have caused the spam notification. Though even after deleting all URLs page would not save. Don't know what else to do about it other than post it here. The specific section was the 'To Do' section Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Himalayafunandtours (talkcontribs)

I've fixed the problem, so the page is now editable. However, please read Wikitravel:External links to verify that the link you are trying to add meets Wikitravel's guidelines for external links. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

apnabus dot in

This is apparently an Indian ticket broker and thus not appropriate per Wikitravel:External links and the Tour policy. User has ignored talk page messages and returned after temporary blocks to spam dozens of pages, so it's time to put this on the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:02, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

scorpiotech dot info

See the history for both User talk:Scorpiotech00 and User talk:Scorpiotech0. An SEO company is trying to abuse Wikitravel for marketing/SEO purposes. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:45, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

creditcardhelp dot com dot au

Suspected work of a currently active spambot - Articles and images have been listed for deletion per Votes for deletion and {{vfd}} as I do not have sufficient access to deal with them directly. Jan subsequently deleted the forex related content. I think Ryan has his eye on this suspected spambot activity.

See also -- Credit Card- How To Build Good Credit Habits and associated image uploads Image:333.jpg and Image:444.jpg
See also -- Forex- How To Invest in Forex Mutual Funds and associated image uploads Image:555.jpg and Image:666.jpg

felix 02:01, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

pbali dot com

pbali dot com appears to be a operation purportedly promoting villa rental and sales. Clickable links to their website have been placed into the Bali article and subsequently removed by myself and other editors. Both the User:Marine and User:Crewman appear to be accounts operated on the same campaign. The edit content is identical from both users and they have been placing the covert url link into the Bali article text. The link points to pbali dot com. The website has no contact details provided for the promoters other than a browser page contact form. I am wondering if they have been active elsewhere on WT as well.

The covert link edit is written as follows and inserted into the article copy.:

<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.pbali dot com/ <span style="color:#000000;font-weight:normal; text-decoration:none!important; background:none!important; text-decoration:none;">Bali Villas</span>]

This is an example of one edit.

It then displays as; Bali Villas and becomes clickable if rolled over -- (the bolding is my own emphasis).

The covert link points to pbali dot com when it is supplied with a correctly formatted address.

Registrant: Sergey Gorshkov Krasnaya 21a, 4 Kaliningrad, Kaliningrad region 236000 Russian Federation

Registered through:, Inc. ( Domain Name: PBALI.COM Created on: 23-Feb-11 Expires on: 23-Feb-12 Last Updated on: 23-Feb-11

Administrative Contact: Gorshkov, Sergey Krasnaya 21a, 4 Kaliningrad, Kaliningrad region 236000 Russian Federation 7-911-452-9608 Fax --

Technical Contact: Gorshkov, Sergey Krasnaya 21a, 4 Kaliningrad, Kaliningrad region 236000 Russian Federation 7-911-452-9608 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:


Sergey Gorshkov is also associated with balivillaonsale dot com. tel: +62 8138 157 3288

A Sergey Gorshkov was also a well known Admiral of the Soviet Union navy during the Cold War and died in 1988.

The Sergey Gorshkov associated with the Bali villa marketing seems to to be in Kaliningrad, Russia.

Related sites as per dot com

  • property dot baliwww dot com - Bali Property, Real Estate, Villa, Land in Bali for sale, rent and lease
  • bali-information dot com - Bali Property Real Estate Bali Villas Sale BPI, Rent, build, own Property in Bali Indonesia
  • balitopproperty dot com - Bali Property - Bali TOP Property, Bali Real Estate, Bali villa, land, apartment, for sale and rent, latest listing of property in Bali by Bali Property Agent, Indonesia.
  • bali-properties dot com - Bali Vacation Properties - Bali Villa Rental, Sales, Design & Construction
  • balivillarent dot com - Bali villa for rent Seminyak home rentals holiday house for rent Bali luxury beach villa accommodation
  • landsalebali dot com - Villa Bali - Real Estate :: Bali Property Bali Villa Rental Bali. Vacation Villas. Property Sales, leasing & Development
  • rent-bali-villas dot com - Rent Bali Villas : 3 bedroom, 4 bedroom and 5 bedroom bali villa rentals in Seminyak, Canggu and Umalas Bali
  • villa dot com - Villa | Villas | Villa Rentals & Sales -
  • villajuno dot com Villa Juno - A bed & breakfast villa for vacation rentals in Canggu, Bali
  • bali-essence-villas dot com - Bali Seminyak Villas for Sale - Rental | Bali Essence Villas
  •  PBALI dot COM IP is and is hosted by godaddy dot com --- felix 11:59, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

capezebratours dot com and capeafricantours dot com

Links to this company were copied to numerous articles for South Africa, with at least four separate entries in the Cape Town article. Since then they have returned to add multiple entries to the Cape Town article at least a dozen times, despite pointers provided on user talk pages and in edit summaries to the Wikitravel:Don't tout policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:36, 3 May 2011 (EDT)


See Special:Contributions/ This Facebook group has been re-added to the Buenos Aires article five or six times in the past two days despite repeated pointers to the Wikitravel:External links policy. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:22, 17 May 2011 (EDT)

www dot butterfly-massage dot com

Escort/prostitution services consistently added at User_talk:Xiali1208 --Burmesedays 03:24, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

www dot shanghai-in-massge dot com

Escort/prostitution services consistently added at User_talk:Xiali1208 --Burmesedays 03:24, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Tajpur notes on an edit/s and west bengal scamming activity

Upon tracking a suspect tel number to another article I came across the Tajpur article today. The entire Tajpur article seems a little dubious. It has the appearance of having been established for the purpose of listing either entriely fictitious or baiting accommodation listings attributable to known listing hijackers and listing vandals associated with articles in this region. I have removed the offending number and noted that the edit histories had evidence of another scammer involved with the article. I have now applied some generalised copy editing to the article to clean it up but it is still a bit questionable. I note that on (07:46) 17 May 2009 ChubbyWimbus raised some concerns aboout this article.

Upon examination of the various articles concerned and their edit and content history it appears that the contact numbers used have been those associated with previous misleading or hijack edits in various West Bengal articles.

Today I have made edits to the article and some others today that are displaying similar lineage and number commonalities I have removed +91 33 8100291011 from Hotel Sonarbangla Resorts in the Tajpur article as this tel number has beeen listed the Rojana Beach Resorts listing in Digha and removed in an edit today for that reason. The previous listing for Safarsonhee in this Tajpur article was removed by Peterfitzgerald on 11 oct 2010). The prior Safarsonhee listing used a number 90spamfilter51115228 listed to Safarsongee Tours & Travels, Kolkata, Telephone: (033) 4004spamfilter8685, 90spamfilter51115228, Address: 9B, Esplanade , Kolkata-700069, West Bengal. The Hotel Amorabati-Bakkhali has also frequently been listed to 90spamfilter51115228 on travel websites

As I know the activities of the west bengal idiots are of interest to others I thought this may be of interest here.felix 06:40, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

West Bengal scammer +91 33 8100291011

Maybe it's time for this idiots number to be spam blacklisted-- felix 10:53, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

  • Digha‎+91 33 8100291011 - Rojana Beach Resorts
  • Tajpur +91 33 8100291011 - Hotel Sonarbangla Resorts
  • Shankarpur Call-8100291011 - Hotel Ashoka & Westbengal Tourist Lodges
  • Shankarpur +91 33 8100291011 - Tourist lodge jowar complex
  • Madhupur 'Booking 08100291011 - Group Booking,totaly Bengali Atmosphere.9b,Esplanade East Row,Kolkata-69,Room No -44

Here are some more: -- felix 15:09, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

cbho_info@yahoodotcom and cbhoinfo@gmaildotcom have an established pattern with scammer numbers and multiple listings ie. Shankarpur Hotel Sandy Bay, cbho_info@yahoodotcom, Jhargram Mps Resort, ☎ 033 9433585945 cbho_info@yahoodotcom, Falta Hotel Sea Bird +91 033 9831254202 cbhoinfo@gmaildotcom also +91 33 943358 5945

+91 33 9831254202 has a scammer profile: Falta Hotel Sea Bird +91 033 9831254202 Digha Hotel Sonar Bangla, Barrister colony, ☎ 9831254202

+91 33 2248 0626 has a scammer profile Digha Tourist Lodge Hotel Dolphin Larica Sagar Tourist Lodge Digha Hotel Suman's Digha Mandarmani Samudra Sakshi Resort

Eastern Tourism of 190A, Harish Mukherjee Road, Kolkata - 700 026 has a scammer profile with multiple listing and relisting of +91 33 2455 1491 Other numbers listed to this enterprise include

  • +91 33 6944 3695
  • +91 33 6460spamfilter3695
  • +91 33 2455 1491

Mobile :

  • 92306 53695
  • 98310 31895
  • 93394 24307
  • 9830233754
  • easterntourism@vsnldotnet

ukraine vacation guide dot com

Mass spamming of various Ukraine articles. Examination of site reveals no content that could ever be useful at WT --Burmesedays 06:13, 23 June 2011 (EDT).

vietnamairlinestickets dot com

This URL has shown up repeatedly in several Southeast Asia articles over the past week. It's a booking portal - the URL for Vietnam Airlines is - and the users in question are ignoring requests to stop re-adding this URL. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:26, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

motorbiketours-hoian dot com

After ignoring several specific warnings about writing their details into a competitor listing at Hoi An, did it again.--Burmesedays 08:30, 19 July 2011 (EDT)

Touristdriver.aqaba at

This tax driver has been adding lengthy advertisements to various Jordan articles and ignoring pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout. See Special:Contributions/ and Special:Contributions/Jouli for some examples. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:55, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

kuakatatours dot com

There have been several new articles created in the past twelve hours that do not meet the Wikitravel:What is an article criteria. The user in question hasn't responded to talk page messages so I'm putting the tour company URL he/she has been using on the blacklist in the hopes of getting his/her attention. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:36, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

wadirumdiscovery dot com

This tour company has ignored repated requests not to list itself multiple times (per Wikitravel:Don't tout), and has now started removing competitor listings from the Wadi Rum article. See for example Special:Contributions/Momo2010. -- Ryan • (talk) • 12:05, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

bandarbantours dot com

User has ignored many messages and continues to create spam articles designed to promote this travel agency.--Burmesedays 07:36, 1 August 2011 (EDT)

taxi-makarska dot com

See Special:Contributions/Ijujnovic. There has been a long running edit war going on over Makarska. Initially requests were made to de-tout a listing, and eventually to discuss before re-adding. Adding to the blacklist now to prevent further edit warring. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:32, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

easyrider dot vn and easy-riders dot net

See Special:Contributions/Easyridervietnam (amongst others). Talk page messages and edit summary pointers to Wikitravel:Don't tout have been ignored repeatedly over the past couple of weeks. -- Ryan • (talk) • 11:22, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

easy-riders dot net has also been added - see Special:Contributions/Fuckingspam. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:28, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

tripz dot advisor

A few accounts are spamming this gmail address. Looks more like bored trolling than actual spamming, so this can be removed later. --Peter Talk 11:46, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

internetmarketingdirect dot com dot au

Repeated SEO spam on User talk:IM2011Direct. Ironically, the spam was touting the company's "white hat" strategies, but doing so by spamming a travel wiki. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:08, 28 September 2011 (EDT)


This travel agency has been spamming Agra and other random pages daily for the past week. Edit summary pointers and talk page messages pointing the user to Tour and Wikitravel:Don't tout have been ignored. -- wrh2 10:40, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

comparecarrental dot co

See (for two examples) Special:Contributions/ and Special:Contributions/ User has been inserting this car rental portal with misleading edit summaries. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:16, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

Rhinocarhire dot com Removal from Local Spam Blacklist Request

Swept in from the pub

We are seeking feedback / support for the removal of rhinocarhire dot com from the Wikitravel talk:Local spam blacklist#Various Car Hire Agencies. We have for some time been in discussion with a moderator who has recommended that we use this platform in an attempt to gain support for our removal from the list by consensus. We found ourselves added to the list in September 2009 where the route cause was traced back to an external editor / SEO specialist who took it upon himself to spam wiki travel with our website. Upon discovering such practices, this person ceased to work for the company and has not done so since. We have explained our situation in detail, however the perception remains that we will try to use Wikitravel for our own benefit and SEO purposes, which I can assure the Wikitravel community is not the case. We run an honest business and were awarded Best Car Hire Website at the 2010 Travolution Awards, something that the team worked very hard towards and are very proud of. Our integrity has been questioned on Wikitravel to the extent where we have been labelled not trustworthy, something we find unjust and unfounded. There have also been references to 'fake blogs' that we know nothing about and have requested further information to fully investigate, however no further information has been supplied. We have no interest in self promotion of our business on Wikitravel and are not looking for recommendations, however being listed as spam is potentially damaging for our business. We have been punished by wiki travel for 2 years now (listed on the spam blacklist) and feel that continued listing as spam for actions carried out by a 3rd party on our behalf (unknown to us at the time) is not longer justifiable. We would welcome to feedback from the community on this matter as we will continue our pursuit for removal from the list. Many thanks. Rhinocarhire dot com. ( 09:23, 30 August 2011 (EDT))

Congratulations on winning the Travolution Award. It wouldn't do for an award winner like yourselves to be on a blacklist so I will remove you. If you list again you will be re-added. If you ever feel like apologising for the hours of time myself and others have volunteered to keep the guide clean while your agents have done their best to disrupt it, that would be good too. --Inas 19:04, 10 November 2011 (EST)
Responding to the "fake blog" issue - [30], [31], [32], etc, etc. -- Ryan • (talk) • 19:12, 10 November 2011 (EST)

Can't edit

Swept in from the pub

I can't seem to be able to edit Globe-trotters talk page, since my message is refused by the spam filter. What am I doing wrong? I wanted to post: "Hi, I appreciate your help but since I was still working on the text I've been getting edit conflicts on South Limburg. That is making it quite harder and frustrating, so I'll just stop editing until you're done. Could you give me a heads up when you are? Justme 12:54, 30 July 2011 (EDT) "

As to that last problem, is there a way to indicate that you're working on something and ask others to not edit for a while? These edit conflicts really are frustrating.. Justme 12:54, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

I can't edit his page either. G-t has something on his talk page that is activating the spam filter. On edit conflicts, I think if one user is significantly editing a page, it is good practice to let them get on with it and come back later. Otherwise, as you say, edit conflicts will drive you nuts.--Burmesedays 13:02, 30 July 2011 (EDT)--Burmesedays 13:02, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
That's my fault - a spambot has been hitting the site over the past several weeks using specific CSS, so I added that CSS pattern to the blacklist. Unfortunately it looks like several user pages are using the same pattern, so I've removed it from the blacklist. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:57, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
Thanks. I'm done with South Limburg, so you can just continue editing there Justme. --globe-trotter 14:14, 30 July 2011 (EDT)