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I'd like to provide a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT dict] version of Wikitravel, but then I first need an SQL dump :) [[User:Guaka|Guaka]] 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (EDT)
 
I'd like to provide a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DICT dict] version of Wikitravel, but then I first need an SQL dump :) [[User:Guaka|Guaka]] 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (EDT)
  
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I think that it is more than fair that we should ask people who re-use articles to credit '''Wikitravel''' as well as the actual authors - after all it is usually Wikitravel that has at least facilitated the creation and improvement of the articles. At least then people have more of a clue of where the articles originated from. It needn't be a requirement, but certainly a strong preference. [[User:DanielC|DanielC]] 19:38, 9 April 2005 (BST)
 
I think that it is more than fair that we should ask people who re-use articles to credit '''Wikitravel''' as well as the actual authors - after all it is usually Wikitravel that has at least facilitated the creation and improvement of the articles. At least then people have more of a clue of where the articles originated from. It needn't be a requirement, but certainly a strong preference. [[User:DanielC|DanielC]] 19:38, 9 April 2005 (BST)
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''Swept in from the [[Wikitravel:Travellers' pub]]:''
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I made a [http://www.agol.dk/elgaard/Italy_Wikitravel.pdf PDF for all of Italy] (I think). See more on my user page --[[User:Elgaard|elgaard]] 18:28, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)
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:That's great! I think I'd like to put together some mechanisms for making print books using print-on-demand technologies so you could assemble a bunch of Wikitravel Web pages and then send them off to a service to be printed, bound, and shipped to you. --[[User:Evan|Evan]] 20:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)
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:: I posted som thoughts made while travelling on [[User:Elgaard/bookproject]] --Elgaard (cant find tilde on it keyboard)
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==Printable TravelGuides and Levels of Information in Contributions==
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''Swept in from the [[Wikitravel:Travellers' pub]]:''
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On wikipedia there are now many readers on different topics. Would that be possible for wikitravel, too? I have in mind a complete pdf-guide for e.g. a country, a region, or also a big city (similar to traditional Lonely Planet guides, e.g.). For those to be compiled automatically, there should be different levels of information in the single contributions (e.g. if there would be a Travel Guide to London it should contain much more detailed info on London - possibly also from wikipedia itself - than in a guidebook on the UK). E.g. putting tags on different sections of articles on cities that would go into a (e.g.) Europe, Western Europe, France, Burgundy or City-Guide (e.g.). Did I make clear what I mean? E.g. in a Europe Guidebook you would probably only include like 5 pubs in Munich, but in a Guidebook on Bavaria, you would include 20. So it would be nice to be able to (internally) mark this on the respective Munich page, in order to be able to automatically create Travel Guides. Are there any plans regarding such issues.
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: I've been thinking about this too, and I think Wikitravel will need to adopt the Mediawiki Category system at some point to make this possible. Further discussion here please: [http://wikitravel.org/en/Wikitravel_talk:Categories] [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 09:35, 5 Sep 2005 (EDT)

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dict version

I'd like to provide a dict version of Wikitravel, but then I first need an SQL dump :) Guaka 14:29, 2 Aug 2004 (EDT)

I think that's a great idea. Georg Muntingh 16:38, 2 Aug 2004 (EDT)

too many to authors to fit in that block

I have idea that could simplify attribution authors by thirdparties (mirrors, printed versions, etc.).

We could include all contributors to the article in a footer, but hide them in normal page view using appropriate style.

Entity that re-use the article would have to disable this one particular style, so all authors show up.

It would look like:

<li id="f-credits">This page was last modified 18:09, 6 Feb 2005 by Wikitravel user Wojsyl. 
Based on work by Jan Słupski and Mark Jaroski, Wikitravel user(s) Dimitris, 
Anonymous user(s) of Wikitravel and others<span id="f-authorshid"> (Alan, Miche, Wojtek, Adam)</span>.</li>

And style:

#f-authorshid { display: none; }

-- JanSlupski 10:14, 9 Feb 2005 (EST)

That's a real good idea. Frankly, if we can get the credits block to wrap properly, I'm happy to get rid of the "others" link altogether and just list all contributors. The main reason it's limited right now is that the GFDL only requires that 5 contributors be listed, and some Wikipedians thought there'd be too much credits content if we used > 5. This is kind of moot at this point, as Wikipedia doesn't use the credits block and I don't think the foundation has any plans to. --Evan 10:57, 9 Feb 2005 (EST)
...if we can get the credits block to wrap properly.... We can! ;) But indeed displaying all spammers that have contributed to Main Page could be too much... (ok, ok, I know spammers are mostly anonymous) -- JanSlupski 11:09, 9 Feb 2005 (EST)

Requirement to specifically credit Wikitravel

I think that it is more than fair that we should ask people who re-use articles to credit Wikitravel as well as the actual authors - after all it is usually Wikitravel that has at least facilitated the creation and improvement of the articles. At least then people have more of a clue of where the articles originated from. It needn't be a requirement, but certainly a strong preference. DanielC 19:38, 9 April 2005 (BST)

Wikitravel book

Swept in from the Wikitravel:Travellers' pub:

I made a PDF for all of Italy (I think). See more on my user page --elgaard 18:28, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

That's great! I think I'd like to put together some mechanisms for making print books using print-on-demand technologies so you could assemble a bunch of Wikitravel Web pages and then send them off to a service to be printed, bound, and shipped to you. --Evan 20:03, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)
I posted som thoughts made while travelling on User:Elgaard/bookproject --Elgaard (cant find tilde on it keyboard)

Printable TravelGuides and Levels of Information in Contributions

Swept in from the Wikitravel:Travellers' pub:

On wikipedia there are now many readers on different topics. Would that be possible for wikitravel, too? I have in mind a complete pdf-guide for e.g. a country, a region, or also a big city (similar to traditional Lonely Planet guides, e.g.). For those to be compiled automatically, there should be different levels of information in the single contributions (e.g. if there would be a Travel Guide to London it should contain much more detailed info on London - possibly also from wikipedia itself - than in a guidebook on the UK). E.g. putting tags on different sections of articles on cities that would go into a (e.g.) Europe, Western Europe, France, Burgundy or City-Guide (e.g.). Did I make clear what I mean? E.g. in a Europe Guidebook you would probably only include like 5 pubs in Munich, but in a Guidebook on Bavaria, you would include 20. So it would be nice to be able to (internally) mark this on the respective Munich page, in order to be able to automatically create Travel Guides. Are there any plans regarding such issues.

I've been thinking about this too, and I think Wikitravel will need to adopt the Mediawiki Category system at some point to make this possible. Further discussion here please: [1] Jpatokal 09:35, 5 Sep 2005 (EDT)

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