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While we're on the subject - what about Events? Like parades etc. Some are big/famous enough to be a reason to visit someplace, and many more might be a reason to make a diversion/daytrip/whatever. Or for example, people who want to spend Valentine's in Paris (a horrible plan, by the way). Some events are on the same day every year; others change every year. What should we do with these? --Nils 12:40 Jan 24th 2004 (CET)
You can get a phone that accepts SIM cards, allowing you to get a local number wherever you go. I think that's very cool, but is it the best option? A page that reviews all the alternatives for phone service while travelling would be useful. Especially for me, as I know basically nothing about this. -- Tim
I made some keyboard layouts so that I can type in various languages. On the Greek layout, what is the key to the right of lambda supposed to do? I hit it twice and get an apostrophe, but I haven't been able to get anything else by hitting it once and then another key. I guess it's for accents, but how does it work? -phma 21:06, 27 Dec 2003 (PST)
How about including comments (or a table) within Country articles discussing Visa Requements? --Caffeine 05:19, 2 Jan 2004 (PST)
We seem to have quite a number of German-speaking Wikitravellers. Are there enough people interested to get a German Wikitravel Expedition started? It just takes 5 committed people, one liaison, and about 50 pages of translation. --Evan 16:07, 9 Jan 2004 (EST)
Pages approaching or longer than 32kb
When editing pages near or longer than 32kb a message such as "WARNING: This page is 51 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections" appears above the editing box. For example, see United States of America (52392 bytes) or other long pages. How important is it to break such pages up? Is there a policy? Nurg 04:13, 16 Jan 2004 (EST)
Mozilla Search Pluggin
Hi guys, I contributed a Mozilla search pluggin for WikiTravel (based of the pluggin for WikiPedia). It's available from here (Search for WikiTravel): http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html Enjoy! :-) --Caffeine 15:13, 23 Jan 2004 (EST)
Is it appropriate for us to mention wikis on the page of the city they are physically in ? I have personally visited one wiki, but I wouldn't really call it a tourist attraction. Even if we decide it's not appropriate in general, I think the very special wiki in Portland OR deserves a mention. -- DavidCary
What's the best place to put the weather in a city? -phma 11:02, 26 Jan 2004 (EST)
New version of CC licenses
A draft of the new version of the Creative Commons licenses is up for review until February 15. They've put up the draft version Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike license, which includes all the stipulations of the other licenses, so you can review them all together.
I have some problems with the new licenses, which I've noted on the cc-licenses mailing list. My two main issues are:
There's also no mention of mixing by-sa-licensed stuff with GFDL'd stuff, which is a major concern for us (so we can share our content with Wikipedia, for instance).
Anyways, spread the word. --Evan 11:04, 27 Jan 2004 (EST)
Wikitravel mentioned at lessig blog
I could not find any links on the main page, in the footer, in the FAQ, or the Help pages about what code you use to run this wiki. Is it something you wrote yourself, or are you using the MediaWiki project, or something else?
Is there a place on Wikitravel for links to newspaper article archives? For example:
Or does that fall under the heading of non-goals?
We should add a location's timezone into the "Quick Facts" table; also if someone feels so inclined a timezone world map might be a good addition (if none exists already). --Nils 12:16 Jan 29th, 2004
Embassy and consulat
Hi. sorry for my poor English, but I wanted to know if you already debated on the interest of listing embassies or consulates that can be found in towns like Paris or Strasbourg for example. I think it would be an interressant information for travellers that have problems with justice or so. [Was it clear ? ] --Pontauxchats 04:53, 30 Jan 2004 (EST)
Cope]]. --Evan 15:27, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)
A way to edit offline
Hi all. I've been thinking that it would be really nice to have a way to work on wikitravel articles offline. The advantages would include the possibilities of working on a laptop, while actually traveling and of giving the traveler a choice of the full range of text editors. I've noticed that there's been some discussion of this sort of thing on the Wikimedia meta site, but I think I would propose to do something a bit different (and hopefully simpler) than the stuff I've seen proposed there.
What I have in mind at least for now is something kind of like the cvs client command line software, but with a much simpler set of functions and behaviors. So if this command were called "wix" (a name pulled totally out of thin air) the user could type something like 'wix checkout pagename.wiki', or 'wix update pagename.wiki' or wix commit pagename.wiki'. While the pagename would pretty much obviously have to be the URL page name of the article. The commit function would either have to insist on an update first, or perhaps better, would be smart enough to do one automatically. The client would probably need some kind of conflict resolution behavior as well.
My idea is for the client to interface with the server just using the perfectly normal HTTP, just like all other user agents which communicate with Wikimedia so as to keep this as simple as possible and to avoid the range of possible bugs that can come from making drastic changes in server features. I suppose that if skins are fairly easy to make, then a stripped down skin for the client might be in order, thought I'm not sure that would be necessary so long as the form elements are named consistantly between the skins.
I've actually been doing something like this just using the "save as" feature of my browser, and editing the form action attribute of the page to give it a non-relative URL. Of course this requires diligence with updates, which have to be done manually. I would have to handle a conflict manually when doing this if one ever came up. So anyhow, I wouldn't mind automating this stuff just to keep from running diff once in a while.
Any thoughts? -- Mark 05:27, 30 Jan 2004 (EST)
So, on Wikipedia, it's considered good style to put the subject of an article in boldface in the first paragraph. Some people do this on Wikitravel, too. I'm not sure why, or whether this is a good idea for us. Can somebody enlighten me? Do we need to add this to the Manual of style? --Evan 15:42, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)
Granularity of Wikitravel; Cuisine cross-references for metropolitan areas
This is not a question about a specific page, but more a question on the Wikitravel goals and concepts that this page raises. I use the specific page only as an illustration of the larger question.
I recently created a page Bay Area (California)/Localized Chinese cuisine as an attempt to help travellers who come to San Francisco and are disatisfied with the Chinese food here (I and others have received such complaints over the years, at least partly because even Americanized Chinese food in SF is different from that found elsewhere). One Wikian commented that the page seemed too granular. So I was wondering, how granular is Wikitravel allowed to be? (Wikipedia can be quite granular, however, I realize the two Wiki's goals are not the same.)
I also perceive there is a need for some cross-referencing in general within a large metropolitan area. For instance, one could find all restaurants in an area by drilling down to all pages within that area, but they might not know to go to Fremont to look for highly authenttic Indian or Afghan food. In fact, they might not even know to look for Afghan food. The cross-reference would not need to list all restaurants in a region, only those Wikians felt worthy of being linked to from a regional page. (I do not recommend having restaurant reviews on the regional page, only links to the actual review or Eat section on the lowest level page.)
Perhaps the two ideas need to merge, and the content on San Francisco Bay Area Chinese Cuisine belongs in a same-named section on a page of Bay Area (California)/Eat cross-reference instead of on a page of its own.
Related to that is, would it make sense for neighborhoods or cities with a lot of restaurant reviews to have subheadings by cuisine, just as Stay has subheadings by price range?
Notty 02:59, Feb 5, 2004 (EST)