Difference between revisions of "Wikitravel:Travellers' pub"
Revision as of 18:56, 21 March 2013
The Travellers' pub is the place to ask questions when you're confused, lost, afraid, tired, annoyed, thoughtful, or helpful. Please check the FAQ and Help page before asking a question, though, since that may save your time and others'.
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New administrators nomination
We are planning to revitalize Wikitravel and our community! In 2013 we would like to improve technicality and usability of the site and we are open to any ideas! Please let us know of any new features you would like to have on WT and share with us your suggestions on how to make Wikitravel better. Thank you! IBAlex 14:20, 20 December 2012 (EST)
Policy on free-riding tips
I got some second thoughts about deleting tips on how to evade a station entrance fee in Stockholm-Arlanda Airport: Link to change log What is Wikitravel's policy for riding transports, or entering venues, without a proper ticket? Is it a no-no, or are there circumstances when such information is allowed? /Blist 19:12, 23 December 2012 (EST)
Many articles on Wikitravel are very well developed and serve as a great source of information for many Travelers. We should nominate the best ones as Star Articles and feature them on the Main Page. I nominated Bangkok today. Please let me know what you think and if you have any other candidates. IBAlex 15:23, 14 January 2013 (EST)
New Main Page
We have updated today the Main Page and added a fully new section with Top Destinations. Right now we are featuring Top Destinations 2013 and Top Ski Destination. We would like to change this section frequently and we are open to your ideas for future top places around the world, for example:
Interestingly, we have the option to book hotels for the moon with the orbitz booking tool. 19:12, 11 February 2013 (EST)
Default image sizes in Thumbnails
Currently, all unregistered users (and those logged-on, registered users that have not bothered to change their preferences at
from the default)
Since this default was set 10 years ago, connection speeds have typically increased (and prices reduced) worldwide.
I would, therefore, like to suggest that the default size be modestly increased to 250px and the pick selection be changed from:
$wgThumbLimits = array( 120, 150, 180, 200, 250, 300 );
$wgThumbLimits = array( 120, 150, 200, 250, 300, 400, 500 );
The relevant variable in LocalSettings.php on the server in which to set this range of thumbnail size options is, I think, $wgThumbLimits. (And see also in the Manual's FAQ, How do I change default user preferences and $wgDefaultUserOptions].)
Template:Panorama now seems to work
- but use it sparingly until we sort out the image defaults above. (There may be a case for having just a tiny thumbnail on the main article pages with a link to a subpage of the main article containing any panorama images to save hassles for roaming mobile users and those on other slow/expensive connections)... --118dot93dot73dot30 19:21, 7 March 2013 (EST)
Unfortunately you have not taken a screenshot of your whole screen (and, more especially, your screen width), but I have a strong suspicion that you are using a relatively wide screen (or at least one wide enough to display the whole width of the wide panorama and, therefore, you have no slider to pan left or right. What happens when you reduce the width of your tab or window and do you have an "enlarge" widget visible at the bottom right?
I am enclosing two screen-grabs of how things look on typical laptops or notebooks (as opposed to wide, desk-top monitors). Please try reducing your tab/window width to a narrow width and report here what happens.
If you continue to have further problems, I will need full details such as screen size in pixels, and all your preference settings including what skin you are using and whether you have adverts and Orbitz switched on or off... --118dot93dot73dot30 04:09, 14 March 2013 (EDT)
Emergency phone numbers
I have made a start on adding the unified emergency phone number to the quickbar of about a dozen English speaking countries that have a unified common number but there are still a couple of hundred to go... --118dot93dot73dot30 04:59, 12 March 2013 (EDT)
Because we want to develop our own travel related content here (and also because travellers may be reading a printed version or off-line), we do not link to secondary sources here on the web's most read travel guide.
However, we are not (and will never be) an encyclopaedia. We have a different aim and focus and a different tone. Our ability to use primary sources is one of the great strengths of our travel guide - nothing in Wikipedia is going to beat our ability to utilise the insights of people who have visited a destination recently - the conundrum comes in distinguishing which anecdotes we can rely on from those that are self-serving or mendacious and unfair.
I think we should consider giving our readers free access to any of Britannica's 120,000 articles directly from this web site with special types of in-line links.
IBadmins: You might want to ask your IT department to engineer special types of visually distinctive links brief instructions here, or we can just slightly change our policies so that when our readers click through the special type of in-line link to Britannica from our articles, he or she will be able to view the complete article—even those that normally require a subscription to read—as a free sample.
For example, to link to the Britannica Online article on Horatio Nelson, Viscount Nelson from our own Nelson (New Zealand) article, the Britannica article URL is
Our HTML code then might look something like <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/408359/Horatio-Nelson-Viscount-Nelson">Viscount Horatio Nelson<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica.svg" border="0" width="14" hspace="3" vspace="2" /></a> and display a little like:
Note: This code will link users to the article on the publicly accessible Britannica site britannica.com. Readers that they recognize as members of a college or library that subscribes to Britannica will have the same experience as a paid subscriber to the public site with full access to the entire site in an advertising-free environment. Readers that are not members of a subscribing institution will still be able to access the full article, however additional content may be restricted and users may be served advertising.
Please note that, for readers that do not have access via a subscription, that the link will be to the full Britannica article only when the page holding the link is hosted on a Web Server. When you test this page on your local machine, it will still lead to the truncated version of the article. This is not an error, and when the same page is put on a Web Server it will still work as intended. --118dot93dot73dot30 17:10, 16 March 2013 (EDT)
Renovating our Listing format
One of the great things about this travel guide is how easy we have made it for casual editors to both wt:add a listing and then update it as information like opening hours or prices change.
However, currently businesses have a perverse double incentive not to use these great XML style listings, since that way they get to retain an obviously
and avoid that (baffling)
Please could the IT department make it a top priority to change this style so that the name="?" tag field becomes BLUE anchor text with the clickable arrow symbol directly after it in an identical way to the non-XML style listings?
Please also remind them to implement HTML code similar to
Joke article for 2013
He/she/it never replies and seems to be able to make 12 boilerplate welcoming edits to 12 separate user pages inside 60 seconds!