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'''The Romanian Wikitravel Expedition has now been closed. The Romanian Wikitravel has already been launched, at http://www.wikitravel.org/ro'''
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''The text below is obsolete, as the Romanian language version of Wikitravel has been launched. It is, however, an archive of how the Romanian Wikitravel Expedition progressed, and a good example for other language versions of WIkitravel.''
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The '''Romanian Wikitravel Expedition''' is an expedition to create a Romanian language version of Wikitravel which would effectively be the first multilingual version of Wikitravel. Another multilingual version in development is the [[Wikitravel:French Wikitravel Expedition|French Wikitravel]]. The Romanian Wikitravel will also be a trial into seeing how multilingual versions of Wikitravel develop, and how they ultimately work.
 
The '''Romanian Wikitravel Expedition''' is an expedition to create a Romanian language version of Wikitravel which would effectively be the first multilingual version of Wikitravel. Another multilingual version in development is the [[Wikitravel:French Wikitravel Expedition|French Wikitravel]]. The Romanian Wikitravel will also be a trial into seeing how multilingual versions of Wikitravel develop, and how they ultimately work.
  
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==Rationale==
 
==Rationale==
  
Wikitravel needs to change from an English-language site to one that is multilingual. This will not only create a better, more comprehensive travel guide, it will attract and encourage more and more contributors. Also, Wikipedia, and now Wiktionary and Wikiquote, are doing the same. From another perspective, the Romanian Internet community, and especially the Romanian Wiki-community are getting increasingly larger. As Romanian Wikipedia and other sites grow, the need grows for more Romanian versions of websites.
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Wikitravel can better meet its [[Wikitravel:goals and non-goals|goals]] by providing travel information in more languages than English. This will not only create a better, more comprehensive travel guide, it will attract and encourage more and more contributors. Information contributed in one language will, we hope, eventually filter into all language versions.
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The Romanian Internet community, and especially the Romanian Wiki-community are getting increasingly larger. As Romanian Wikipedia and other sites grow, the need grows for more Romanian versions of websites. By addressing this need, we can increase goodwill in the Internet and wiki communities.
  
 
==Goals==
 
==Goals==
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*Support the French Wikitravel, co-operate with them and integrate them into our and English Wikipedia's structure through interlanguage links.
 
*Support the French Wikitravel, co-operate with them and integrate them into our and English Wikipedia's structure through interlanguage links.
  
==IMPORTANT: Choosing a go-between==
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==IMPORTANT: Wikitravel ready to be launched==
  
In order to make a successful, integrated Romanian Wikitravel, we need to choose one of the five users who put their names down, and make them a '''go-between'''. The role of the go-between will be to act as a liaison between English and Romanian Wikipedia, and therefore, he must be able to:
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The Romanian Wikitravel is ready to be launched. Here are some start details:
  
*Write English and Romanian well
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*Go-between: [[User:Ronline|Ronline]]
*Understand Wikitravel ideals, guidelines, goals and policies
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*Other users willing to contribute: [[User:Danutz|Danutz]], [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]], [[User:Snitz|Snitz]], [[User:Maero|Maero]]
*Make monthly reports about Romanian Wikitravel to English Wikitravel
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*Localization file: [[Wikitravel:LanguageRo.php|LanguageRo.php]]
*Contribute actively in Romanian Wikitravel
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The go-between will be chosen the democratic way: via '''voting'''
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==Timing and deadlines==
  
The five candidates for go-between are the users listed below. If you would like to vote one of these people, please put your username next to their name, in the '''Votes for''' section. If you would like to make a vote against someone, please write your username next to their name in the '''Votes against''' line and then a reason for this. To win, a go-between must have two votes for them, and no votes against them. Only people who nominated themselves under the "Gathering a team" section can vote. And remember, '''you cannot vote for yourself'''.
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The following are guides to completing certain tasks of Wikipedia. They are not deadlines in the strict sense, but we should abide by them to get Romanian Wikitravel going as fast as possible.
  
'''Pick a user who you would like to see as go-between:'''
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'''Update: Thanks to all Romanian Wikitravel contributors for voting so quickly for a go-between. We achieved this task quicker than the deadline, meaning we will now be doing everything one day before the former time guide. The new timeframes are:'''
  
*I vote for [[User:Ronline|Ronline]]
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'''23 December 2003''': Go-between was voted in.
**'''Votes for:''' [[User:Snitz|Snitz]], [[User:Maero|Maero]]
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**'''Votes against:'''
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*I vote for [[User:Danutz|Danutz]]
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**'''Votes for:''' [[User:Ronline|Ronline]]
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**'''Votes against:'''
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*I vote for [[User:Snitz|Snitz]]
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**'''Votes for:'''
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**'''Votes against:'''
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*I vote for [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]
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**'''Votes for:'''
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**'''Votes against:''' [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: I disqualify myself. My Romanian is not good enough for this role.
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*I vote for [[User:Maero|Maero]]
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**'''Votes for:'''
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**'''Votes against:'''
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'''Voting will only finish once person listed above has voted - that is, Ronline, Danutz, Snitz, Jmabel and Maero. Therefore, please put in your votes as soon as possible, because the Wikitravel in Romanian will becoming online sooner.'''
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'''24-25 December 2003''': Period of proofreading the [[LanguageRo.php]] file.
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'''26-27 December 2003''': Hopefully, by this time, www.wikitravel.org/ro can be online, with localization and everything.
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'''28-30 December 2003''': Translation of necessary files - we need to translate files such as FAQ, About, Help, Welcome, etc in Romanian.
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'''31 December 2003''': Write a few important articles so that they're there for the official launch the next day.
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<font color="red">'''1 January 2004''':</font> The official launch!!! From now onwards, we can start creating articles and promoting Romanian Wikitravel.
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'''January 2004''': [[User:Ronline|Ronline]], the go-between, will make frequent reports in the logbooks of both RO and EN Wikitravel, we'll make a new Romanian logo, we will make the [[Wikitravel:Multilingual statistics]] page and also [http://www.wikitravel.org/ro/articol/Wikitravel:Expediţia_Promovării_Wikitravel_în_limba_română Expediţia Promovării Wikitravel în limba română] - the expedition to promote the Romanian Wikitravel.
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'''1 February 2004''': I know it's setting things a bit too early, but let's try to get 200 articles by February 2004!
  
 
==Completed progress==
 
==Completed progress==
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*'''Localized the interface''' - see file at [[LanguageRo.php]]
 
*'''Localized the interface''' - see file at [[LanguageRo.php]]
 
*'''Chosen a team''' of five users.
 
*'''Chosen a team''' of five users.
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*'''Voted in a go-between'''. The go-between is [[User:Ronline|Ronline]], with 3 votes for, and none against. All users have voted.
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*'''Proofread the interface localization - completed file is at [[LanguageRo.php]]
  
 
==Completed: Gathering a team==
 
==Completed: Gathering a team==
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'''5 users have already signed up to help Romanian Wikitravel, thereby letting the project advance to the next step of choosing go-betweens.''' However, if you are still interested in helping us out, we'd really appreciate it! Either write your name and how you're willing to help here, or make a new user account on the Romanian Wikitravel when it launches.
 
'''5 users have already signed up to help Romanian Wikitravel, thereby letting the project advance to the next step of choosing go-betweens.''' However, if you are still interested in helping us out, we'd really appreciate it! Either write your name and how you're willing to help here, or make a new user account on the Romanian Wikitravel when it launches.
  
==Next Steps==
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==Completed: Choosing a go-between==
  
We are now in the process of voting for a go-between, a user that will act as a liaison between Romanian and English Wikitravel. Next, we are going to have a two-day period where people can proofread and make any corrections to the localization file at [[LanguageRo.php]]. Once that's done, we're ready to launch!
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'''Voting is closed.'''
  
==Awareness Raising==
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In order to make a successful, integrated Romanian Wikitravel, we need to choose one of the five users who put their names down, and make them a '''go-between'''. The role of the go-between will be to act as a liaison between English and Romanian Wikipedia, and therefore, he must be able to:
  
We can raise awareness of the Romanian Wikitravel (and at the same time promote Wikitravel in general) on the Romanian Wikipedia, as well as on Meta-Wikimedia. Also, we can send the site and a description to Romanian IT/technology sites.
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*Write English and Romanian well
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*Understand Wikitravel ideals, guidelines, goals and policies
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*Make monthly reports about Romanian Wikitravel to English Wikitravel
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*Make monthly reports about English Wikitravel to Romanian Wikitravel
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*Contribute actively in Romanian Wikitravel
  
''I believe someone has messed up the text here'' [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] 23:09, 22 Dec 2003 (PST)
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The go-between will be chosen the democratic way: via '''voting'''
  
[[User:Snitz|Snitz]] 23:33, 20 Dec 2003 (PST)
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The five candidates for go-between are the users listed below. If you would like to vote one of these people, please put your username next to their name, in the '''Votes for''' section. If you would like to make a vote against someone, please write your username next to their name in the '''Votes against''' line and then a reason for this. To win, a go-between must have two votes for them, and no votes against them. Only people who nominated themselves under the "Gathering a team" section can vote. And remember, '''you cannot vote for yourself'''.
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'''Pick a user who you would like to see as go-between:'''
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*I vote for [[User:Ronline|Ronline]]
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**'''Votes for:''' [[User:Snitz|Snitz]], [[User:Maero|Maero]], [[User:Danutz|Danutz]]
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**'''Votes against:'''
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*I vote for [[User:Danutz|Danutz]]
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**'''Votes for:''' [[User:Ronline|Ronline]]
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**'''Votes against:'''
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*I vote for [[User:Snitz|Snitz]]
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**'''Votes for:'''
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**'''Votes against:'''
 
*I vote for [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]
 
*I vote for [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]
 
**'''Votes for:'''
 
**'''Votes for:'''
**'''Votes against:'''
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**'''Votes against:''' [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: I disqualify myself. My Romanian is not good enough for this role.
 
*I vote for [[User:Maero|Maero]]
 
*I vote for [[User:Maero|Maero]]
 
**'''Votes for:'''
 
**'''Votes for:'''
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'''Voting will only finish once person listed above has voted - that is, Ronline, Danutz, Snitz, Jmabel and Maero. Therefore, please put in your votes as soon as possible, because the Wikitravel in Romanian will becoming online sooner.'''
 
'''Voting will only finish once person listed above has voted - that is, Ronline, Danutz, Snitz, Jmabel and Maero. Therefore, please put in your votes as soon as possible, because the Wikitravel in Romanian will becoming online sooner.'''
  
==Completed progress==
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==Completed: Proofreading the script==
  
We've already done the following:
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''The text below is obsolete. The proofreading period has ended.''
  
*'''Localized the interface''' - see file at [[LanguageRo.php]]
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The proofreading and correction period for the localization file at [[LanguageRo.php]] is nearly ended. We've had feedback and correction from some users, and we encourage other Romanian speakers to look over it and contribute. Proofreading ends in 25 December 2003, near the evening. Once that's done, we're ready to launch!
*'''Chosen a team''' of five users.
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==Completed: Gathering a team==
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==Next Steps==
  
''See also [[Wikitravel:Language version policy]] for more information about the procedure of forming a Romanian Wikitravel.''
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We've completed all of the necessary start steps. Now it's time to launch Wikitravel in Romanian and:
  
To get this project started, we need at least 5 Romanian-speaking users willing to contribute to Romanian Wikitravel.
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*Translate the "base" articles - Help, FAQ, Disclaimer, Privary Statement, License, etc.
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*Make new articles
  
Please add your name below, by editing this page, if you support this project. You must have a valid user account with Wikitravel.
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In the first month, the go-between also needs to make reports, etc.
  
'''I agree to forming the Romanian Wikitravel and am willing to contribute:'''
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''For more information about the step process in the first month, see [[Wikitravel:Language version policy]]''
 
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[[User:Ronline|Ronline]] 04:00, 20 Dec 2003 (PST)
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[[User:Danutz|Danutz]] 04:08, 20 Dec 2003 (PST)
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[[User:Snitz|Snitz]] 23:10, 20 Dec 2003 (PST) (I'm willing to translate articles from English to Romanian Wikitravel, and to help with the set-up as well).
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[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] 00:07, 22 Dec 2003 (PST) As a native English speaker, I'm somewhat limited in my ability to contribute to translation in that direction, but I offer my services to decipher anything in English or Spanish that may be confusing.
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[[User:Maero|Maero]] 15:31, 22 Dec 2003 (PST) - As a Romanian tour guide for English and French tourists, I just heard of Wikitravel recently - and what an amazement it's been to see there's a Romanian language Wikitravel in development. I'd like to translate articles into Romanian, as well as offer advice and tips on travel to major European destinations.
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'''5 users have already signed up to help Romanian Wikitravel, thereby letting the project advance to the next step of choosing go-betweens.''' However, if you are still interested in helping us out, we'd really appreciate it! Either write your name and how you're willing to help here, or make a new user account on the Romanian Wikitravel when it launches.
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==Next Steps==
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We are now in the process of voting for a go-between, a user that will act as a liaison between Romanian and English Wikitravel. Next, we are going to have a two-day period where people can proofread and make any corrections to the localization file at [[LanguageRo.php]]. Once that's done, we're ready to launch!
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==Awareness Raising==
 
==Awareness Raising==
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[[User:Ronline|Ronline]] will co-ordinate a [[Wikitravel:Multilingual_statistics|multilingual stats]] project similar to Wikipedia's, which can be found at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Multilingual_statistics. There will be stats on how many articles the English, Romanian and French Wikipedias contain, as well as growth percentages, etc. If other languages join the Wikitravel list, maybe we will create a Wikitravel Embassy.
 
[[User:Ronline|Ronline]] will co-ordinate a [[Wikitravel:Multilingual_statistics|multilingual stats]] project similar to Wikipedia's, which can be found at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Multilingual_statistics. There will be stats on how many articles the English, Romanian and French Wikipedias contain, as well as growth percentages, etc. If other languages join the Wikitravel list, maybe we will create a Wikitravel Embassy.
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{{WikitravelDoc|expeditions}}

Latest revision as of 23:22, 12 August 2010

The Romanian Wikitravel Expedition has now been closed. The Romanian Wikitravel has already been launched, at http://www.wikitravel.org/ro

The text below is obsolete, as the Romanian language version of Wikitravel has been launched. It is, however, an archive of how the Romanian Wikitravel Expedition progressed, and a good example for other language versions of WIkitravel.

The Romanian Wikitravel Expedition is an expedition to create a Romanian language version of Wikitravel which would effectively be the first multilingual version of Wikitravel. Another multilingual version in development is the French Wikitravel. The Romanian Wikitravel will also be a trial into seeing how multilingual versions of Wikitravel develop, and how they ultimately work.

For more information on Multilingual Wikitravel Policy, see Wikitravel:Language version policy. For past information about the Romanian Wikitravel, see Wikitravel talk:Romanian Wikitravel

Contents

Rationale[edit]

Wikitravel can better meet its goals by providing travel information in more languages than English. This will not only create a better, more comprehensive travel guide, it will attract and encourage more and more contributors. Information contributed in one language will, we hope, eventually filter into all language versions.

The Romanian Internet community, and especially the Romanian Wiki-community are getting increasingly larger. As Romanian Wikipedia and other sites grow, the need grows for more Romanian versions of websites. By addressing this need, we can increase goodwill in the Internet and wiki communities.

Goals[edit]

The Romanian Wikitravel has the following goals:

  • To collect a good base of Romanian users willing to take this project further
  • To translate and localize the English Wikitravel into Romanian.
  • To create quality articles that will appeal to Romanian travellers.
  • To link these articles to English versions and create an integrated multilingual Wikitravel.
  • To empower other language groups to form their own Wikitravel.
  • To contribute to English Wikitravel with quality articles about Romania.

Goals update

As you probably know, there is currently a French Wikitravel Expedition, which was formed after (and probably inspired from) the Romanian Wikitravel. As good Wikitravellers, it is the goal of the Romanian Wikitravel to:

  • Support the French Wikitravel, co-operate with them and integrate them into our and English Wikipedia's structure through interlanguage links.

IMPORTANT: Wikitravel ready to be launched[edit]

The Romanian Wikitravel is ready to be launched. Here are some start details:

Timing and deadlines[edit]

The following are guides to completing certain tasks of Wikipedia. They are not deadlines in the strict sense, but we should abide by them to get Romanian Wikitravel going as fast as possible.

Update: Thanks to all Romanian Wikitravel contributors for voting so quickly for a go-between. We achieved this task quicker than the deadline, meaning we will now be doing everything one day before the former time guide. The new timeframes are:

23 December 2003: Go-between was voted in.

24-25 December 2003: Period of proofreading the LanguageRo.php file.

26-27 December 2003: Hopefully, by this time, www.wikitravel.org/ro can be online, with localization and everything.

28-30 December 2003: Translation of necessary files - we need to translate files such as FAQ, About, Help, Welcome, etc in Romanian.

31 December 2003: Write a few important articles so that they're there for the official launch the next day.

1 January 2004: The official launch!!! From now onwards, we can start creating articles and promoting Romanian Wikitravel.

January 2004: Ronline, the go-between, will make frequent reports in the logbooks of both RO and EN Wikitravel, we'll make a new Romanian logo, we will make the Wikitravel:Multilingual statistics page and also Expediţia Promovării Wikitravel în limba română - the expedition to promote the Romanian Wikitravel.

1 February 2004: I know it's setting things a bit too early, but let's try to get 200 articles by February 2004!

Completed progress[edit]

We've already done the following:

  • Localized the interface - see file at LanguageRo.php
  • Chosen a team of five users.
  • Voted in a go-between. The go-between is Ronline, with 3 votes for, and none against. All users have voted.
  • Proofread the interface localization - completed file is at LanguageRo.php

Completed: Gathering a team[edit]

See also Wikitravel:Language version policy for more information about the procedure of forming a Romanian Wikitravel.

To get this project started, we need at least 5 Romanian-speaking users willing to contribute to Romanian Wikitravel.

Please add your name below, by editing this page, if you support this project. You must have a valid user account with Wikitravel.

I agree to forming the Romanian Wikitravel and am willing to contribute:

Ronline 04:00, 20 Dec 2003 (PST)

Danutz 04:08, 20 Dec 2003 (PST)

Snitz 23:10, 20 Dec 2003 (PST) (I'm willing to translate articles from English to Romanian Wikitravel, and to help with the set-up as well).

Jmabel 00:07, 22 Dec 2003 (PST) As a native English speaker, I'm somewhat limited in my ability to contribute to translation in that direction, but I offer my services to decipher anything in English or Spanish that may be confusing.

Maero 15:31, 22 Dec 2003 (PST) - As a Romanian tour guide for English and French tourists, I just heard of Wikitravel recently - and what an amazement it's been to see there's a Romanian language Wikitravel in development. I'd like to translate articles into Romanian, as well as offer advice and tips on travel to major European destinations.

5 users have already signed up to help Romanian Wikitravel, thereby letting the project advance to the next step of choosing go-betweens. However, if you are still interested in helping us out, we'd really appreciate it! Either write your name and how you're willing to help here, or make a new user account on the Romanian Wikitravel when it launches.

Completed: Choosing a go-between[edit]

Voting is closed.

In order to make a successful, integrated Romanian Wikitravel, we need to choose one of the five users who put their names down, and make them a go-between. The role of the go-between will be to act as a liaison between English and Romanian Wikipedia, and therefore, he must be able to:

  • Write English and Romanian well
  • Understand Wikitravel ideals, guidelines, goals and policies
  • Make monthly reports about Romanian Wikitravel to English Wikitravel
  • Make monthly reports about English Wikitravel to Romanian Wikitravel
  • Contribute actively in Romanian Wikitravel

The go-between will be chosen the democratic way: via voting

The five candidates for go-between are the users listed below. If you would like to vote one of these people, please put your username next to their name, in the Votes for section. If you would like to make a vote against someone, please write your username next to their name in the Votes against line and then a reason for this. To win, a go-between must have two votes for them, and no votes against them. Only people who nominated themselves under the "Gathering a team" section can vote. And remember, you cannot vote for yourself.

Pick a user who you would like to see as go-between:

  • I vote for Ronline
  • I vote for Danutz
    • Votes for: Ronline
    • Votes against:
  • I vote for Snitz
    • Votes for:
    • Votes against:
  • I vote for Jmabel
    • Votes for:
    • Votes against: Jmabel: I disqualify myself. My Romanian is not good enough for this role.
  • I vote for Maero
    • Votes for:
    • Votes against:

Voting will only finish once person listed above has voted - that is, Ronline, Danutz, Snitz, Jmabel and Maero. Therefore, please put in your votes as soon as possible, because the Wikitravel in Romanian will becoming online sooner.

Completed: Proofreading the script[edit]

The text below is obsolete. The proofreading period has ended.

The proofreading and correction period for the localization file at LanguageRo.php is nearly ended. We've had feedback and correction from some users, and we encourage other Romanian speakers to look over it and contribute. Proofreading ends in 25 December 2003, near the evening. Once that's done, we're ready to launch!

Next Steps[edit]

We've completed all of the necessary start steps. Now it's time to launch Wikitravel in Romanian and:

  • Translate the "base" articles - Help, FAQ, Disclaimer, Privary Statement, License, etc.
  • Make new articles

In the first month, the go-between also needs to make reports, etc.

For more information about the step process in the first month, see Wikitravel:Language version policy

Awareness Raising[edit]

We can raise awareness of the Romanian Wikitravel (and at the same time promote Wikitravel in general) on the Romanian Wikipedia, as well as on Meta-Wikimedia. Also, we can send the site and a description to Romanian IT/technology sites. Snitz 23:33, 20 Dec 2003 (PST)

Multilingual Stats[edit]

Ronline will co-ordinate a multilingual stats project similar to Wikipedia's, which can be found at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Multilingual_statistics. There will be stats on how many articles the English, Romanian and French Wikipedias contain, as well as growth percentages, etc. If other languages join the Wikitravel list, maybe we will create a Wikitravel Embassy.

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