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==Relationship==
 
==Relationship==
  
There's a lot of indebtedness from Wikimetro to Wikipedia:
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There's a lot of indebtedness from Wikitravel to Wikipedia:
  
* We use the software developed specifically for Wikipedia to run Wikimetro.  
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* We use the software developed specifically for Wikipedia to run Wikitravel.  
* Wikimetro's format, policies, and style were largely inspired by Wikipedia's.
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* Wikitravel's format, policies, and style were largely inspired by Wikipedia's.
 
* People familiar with Wikipedia are more receptive and familiar with the idea of what we're doing; they blazed the way for collaborative development of reference texts.
 
* People familiar with Wikipedia are more receptive and familiar with the idea of what we're doing; they blazed the way for collaborative development of reference texts.
* Many contributors to Wikimetro are also regular contributors to Wikipedia.
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* Many contributors to Wikitravel are also regular contributors to Wikipedia.
  
Note, however, that Wikimetro is not a [http://www.wikimedia.org/ Wikimedia] project.
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Note, however, that Wikitravel is not a [http://www.wikimedia.org/ Wikimedia] project.
  
 
==Welcome, Wikipedians==
 
==Welcome, Wikipedians==
  
We have a special [[Wikimetro:Welcome, Wikipedians|Welcome, Wikipedians]] page to introduce our project to people familiar with Wikipedia.
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We have a special [[Wikitravel:Welcome, Wikipedians|Welcome, Wikipedians]] page to introduce our project to people familiar with Wikipedia.
  
 
==Sharing content==
 
==Sharing content==
  
Wikipedia and Wikimetro use incompatible licensing schemes. Wikipedia uses the GNU Free Documentation License ("GFDL"), while Wikimetro uses the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 ("by-sa") license (see [[Wikimetro:Why Wikimetro isn't GFDL|Why Wikimetro isn't GFDL]] for more details). Because the GFDL and by-sa aren't compatible, it's '''not possible to copy content''', in most cases, between articles on Wikipedia and articles on Wikimetro.
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Wikipedia and Wikitravel have compatible licensing, and it is technically possible to share content between the two provided the license requirements are followed; in general this entails providing attribution indicating the source from which the content was taken using the [[:Template:Wikipedia|Wikipedia attribution template]].
  
There are some ways to do it, though. If you are the ''sole creator'' of content on Wikipedia, you can move it to Wikimetro; simply note on the [[Wikimetro:using talk pages|talk page]] that you're relicensing it under Wikimetro's Creative Commons license. Moving content worked on by other people requires getting their permission first; since both projects share the copyleft spirit, this shouldn't be difficult. The process is the same for moving material from Wikimetro to Wikipedia.
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'''However''', think carefully before doing this, and discuss it with others. Wikipedia and Wikitravel have distinct goals, and forking large amounts of content from one project to the other creates wasteful duplication, and can actually stifle the development of creative, original content. In most cases, linking from one to the other would be a better choice.
  
'''However''', think carefully before doing this, and discuss it with others. Wikipedia and Wikimetro have distinct goals, and forking large amounts of content from one project to the other creates wasteful duplication. In most cases, linking from one to the other would be a better choice.
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As a rule, any significant copy-pasting of Wikipedia text to Wikitravel is not permitted, while borrowing the odd single turn of phrase when your writers' brain is stalling is allowed.
  
 
==Linking==
 
==Linking==
  
Linking to Wikipedia allows people to access encyclopedic information that doesn't fit into the framework of a travel guide. For example, the entry on the [[United Kingdom]] should have a thumbnail sketch of the country's history, but detailed information on Henry  VIII is inappropriate. A link to Wikipedia's UK article would allow readers to find non-travel related information about their destination of choice, without stretching Wikimetro beyond recognition into an "everything you need to know about everything" guide.
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Linking to Wikipedia allows people to access encyclopedic information that doesn't fit into the framework of a travel guide. For example, the entry on the [[United Kingdom]] should have a thumbnail sketch of the country's history, but detailed information on Henry  VIII is inappropriate. A link to Wikipedia's UK article would allow readers to find non-travel related information about their destination of choice, without stretching Wikitravel beyond recognition into an "everything you need to know about everything" guide.
  
If there's a page on Wikipedia that covers the exact same subject as a page on Wikimetro, but from an encyclopedic rather than travel guide point of view, consider making a twin link to the page. And if you link to Wikipedia, it's also nice to link back from Wikipedia to Wikimetro as well.  See [[Wikimetro:links to and from Wikipedia|links to and from Wikipedia]] for how to do this. You can also just add regular links to Wikipedia in the text of a Wikimetro article, using [[Wikimetro:Wiki markup|Wiki markup]].
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If there's a page on Wikipedia that covers the exact same subject as a page on Wikitravel, but from an encyclopedic rather than travel guide point of view, consider making a twin link to the page. And if you link to Wikipedia, it's also nice to link back from Wikipedia to Wikitravel as well.  See [[Wikitravel:links to and from Wikipedia|links to and from Wikipedia]] for how to do this.  
  
'''However''', don't use links as an excuse to be lazy. Wikimetro entries should be useful and self-contained; links should provide ''additional'' information. Writing "Everything you need to know about France is [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/France here], except that there's a good bagel place in Lyon" is not helpful.
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'''However''', don't use links as an excuse to be lazy. Wikitravel entries should be useful and self-contained; links should provide ''additional'' information. Writing "Everything you need to know about France is [http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/France here], except that there's a good bagel place in Lyon" is not helpful.
  
 
==Specific projects==
 
==Specific projects==
  
There are always various projects in the works at Wikipedia, similiar to Wikimetro's concept of [[Wikimetro:Expeditions|Expeditions]]. Some of these could be used by both Wikipedia and Wikimetro. See, for example, the work being done on [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maps maps].
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There are always various projects in the works at Wikipedia, similiar to Wikitravel's concept of [[Wikitravel:Expeditions|Expeditions]]. Some of these could be used by both Wikipedia and Wikitravel. See, for example, the work being done on [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maps maps].
  
 
==MediaWiki==
 
==MediaWiki==
  
All Wikimedia wikis use the same software as Wikimetro. The software is called '''MediaWiki''', and it's Free Software under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It's written in PHP, and uses the MySQL database engine to store page and user information. It was originally created by Wikipedia developers, but it's now used for a number of other projects (see [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki sites using MediaWiki] for a list).
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All Wikimedia wikis use the same software as Wikitravel. The software is called '''MediaWiki''', and it's Free Software under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It's written in PHP, and uses the MySQL database engine to store page and user information. It was originally created by Wikipedia developers, but it's now used for a number of other projects (see [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki sites using MediaWiki] for a list).
  
Helping out with the MediaWiki software means that Wikimetro works better. It also shows that we're '''grateful''' for this great software, and that we want to '''give something back''' to the people who worked so hard to make it. It builds up '''goodwill''', since anything we do for MediaWiki will help users for all the sites using MediaWiki.
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Helping out with the MediaWiki software means that Wikitravel works better. It also shows that we're '''grateful''' for this great software, and that we want to '''give something back''' to the people who worked so hard to make it. It builds up '''goodwill''', since anything we do for MediaWiki will help users for all the sites using MediaWiki.
  
 
Some things to do to help with MediaWiki:
 
Some things to do to help with MediaWiki:
  
* '''Report bugs'''. MediaWiki has a [http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/ bug tracker]; you can use that tool to submit new bugs. Make sure that it's a problem with the software and not with Wikimetro first, of course, and check to make sure that the bug you've identified isn't already in the tracker. But identifying bugs helps developers improve the quality of the software.
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* '''Report bugs'''. MediaWiki has a [http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/ bug tracker]; you can use that tool to submit new bugs. Make sure that it's a problem with the software and not with Wikitravel first, of course, and check to make sure that the bug you've identified isn't already in the tracker. But identifying bugs helps developers improve the quality of the software.
  
 
* '''Suggest enhancements'''. If you have a good idea for how to enhance the MediaWiki software, submit a Request For Enhancement ("RFE") on the SourceForge site. Again, try to make sure that the request hasn't already been made in the tracker. Identifying new features for MediaWiki can make it easier for users of all MediaWiki sites to make great content.
 
* '''Suggest enhancements'''. If you have a good idea for how to enhance the MediaWiki software, submit a Request For Enhancement ("RFE") on the SourceForge site. Again, try to make sure that the request hasn't already been made in the tracker. Identifying new features for MediaWiki can make it easier for users of all MediaWiki sites to make great content.
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* '''Submit patches'''. If you know PHP, you can review the features and bugs that have been submitted, and try to create patches for them. Patches for MediaWiki should be submitted to the [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Wikimedia developers] mailing list.
 
* '''Submit patches'''. If you know PHP, you can review the features and bugs that have been submitted, and try to create patches for them. Patches for MediaWiki should be submitted to the [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Wikimedia developers] mailing list.
  
* '''Write documentation'''. There's a Wiki-based, user-edited [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User%27s_Guide user's guide] for MediaWiki on the Wikipedia [http://meta.wikipedia.org/ meta-site]. You can contribute to the user's guide, which will help all users of the software.
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* '''Write documentation'''. There's a Wiki-based, user-edited [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User's_Guide user's guide] for MediaWiki on the Wikipedia [http://meta.wikipedia.org/ meta-site]. You can contribute to the user's guide, which will help all users of the software.
  
 
* '''Join the MediaWiki project'''. If you know PHP, you can join the MediaWiki SourceForge project and help with the maintenance of the MediaWiki codebase and its further development.
 
* '''Join the MediaWiki project'''. If you know PHP, you can join the MediaWiki SourceForge project and help with the maintenance of the MediaWiki codebase and its further development.
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
  
[[Wikimetro:List of related projects|List of related projects]]
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*[[Wikitravel:List of related projects|List of related projects]]
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Revision as of 14:56, 18 February 2011

Wikipedia is a wiki-based encyclopedia project started in 2001.

Contents

Relationship

There's a lot of indebtedness from Wikitravel to Wikipedia:

  • We use the software developed specifically for Wikipedia to run Wikitravel.
  • Wikitravel's format, policies, and style were largely inspired by Wikipedia's.
  • People familiar with Wikipedia are more receptive and familiar with the idea of what we're doing; they blazed the way for collaborative development of reference texts.
  • Many contributors to Wikitravel are also regular contributors to Wikipedia.

Note, however, that Wikitravel is not a Wikimedia project.

Welcome, Wikipedians

We have a special Welcome, Wikipedians page to introduce our project to people familiar with Wikipedia.

Sharing content

Wikipedia and Wikitravel have compatible licensing, and it is technically possible to share content between the two provided the license requirements are followed; in general this entails providing attribution indicating the source from which the content was taken using the Wikipedia attribution template.

However, think carefully before doing this, and discuss it with others. Wikipedia and Wikitravel have distinct goals, and forking large amounts of content from one project to the other creates wasteful duplication, and can actually stifle the development of creative, original content. In most cases, linking from one to the other would be a better choice.

As a rule, any significant copy-pasting of Wikipedia text to Wikitravel is not permitted, while borrowing the odd single turn of phrase when your writers' brain is stalling is allowed.

Linking

Linking to Wikipedia allows people to access encyclopedic information that doesn't fit into the framework of a travel guide. For example, the entry on the United Kingdom should have a thumbnail sketch of the country's history, but detailed information on Henry VIII is inappropriate. A link to Wikipedia's UK article would allow readers to find non-travel related information about their destination of choice, without stretching Wikitravel beyond recognition into an "everything you need to know about everything" guide.

If there's a page on Wikipedia that covers the exact same subject as a page on Wikitravel, but from an encyclopedic rather than travel guide point of view, consider making a twin link to the page. And if you link to Wikipedia, it's also nice to link back from Wikipedia to Wikitravel as well. See links to and from Wikipedia for how to do this.

However, don't use links as an excuse to be lazy. Wikitravel entries should be useful and self-contained; links should provide additional information. Writing "Everything you need to know about France is here, except that there's a good bagel place in Lyon" is not helpful.

Specific projects

There are always various projects in the works at Wikipedia, similiar to Wikitravel's concept of Expeditions. Some of these could be used by both Wikipedia and Wikitravel. See, for example, the work being done on maps.

MediaWiki

All Wikimedia wikis use the same software as Wikitravel. The software is called MediaWiki, and it's Free Software under the GNU General Public License (GPL). It's written in PHP, and uses the MySQL database engine to store page and user information. It was originally created by Wikipedia developers, but it's now used for a number of other projects (see sites using MediaWiki for a list).

Helping out with the MediaWiki software means that Wikitravel works better. It also shows that we're grateful for this great software, and that we want to give something back to the people who worked so hard to make it. It builds up goodwill, since anything we do for MediaWiki will help users for all the sites using MediaWiki.

Some things to do to help with MediaWiki:

  • Report bugs. MediaWiki has a bug tracker; you can use that tool to submit new bugs. Make sure that it's a problem with the software and not with Wikitravel first, of course, and check to make sure that the bug you've identified isn't already in the tracker. But identifying bugs helps developers improve the quality of the software.
  • Suggest enhancements. If you have a good idea for how to enhance the MediaWiki software, submit a Request For Enhancement ("RFE") on the SourceForge site. Again, try to make sure that the request hasn't already been made in the tracker. Identifying new features for MediaWiki can make it easier for users of all MediaWiki sites to make great content.
  • Submit patches. If you know PHP, you can review the features and bugs that have been submitted, and try to create patches for them. Patches for MediaWiki should be submitted to the Wikimedia developers mailing list.
  • Write documentation. There's a Wiki-based, user-edited user's guide for MediaWiki on the Wikipedia meta-site. You can contribute to the user's guide, which will help all users of the software.
  • Join the MediaWiki project. If you know PHP, you can join the MediaWiki SourceForge project and help with the maintenance of the MediaWiki codebase and its further development.

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