User talk:Wrh2/Archive 2009
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Is Jam Wiki your brain child and how feasible is it for lay people (anyone who who doesn't even know what HTML stands for) to maintain a website using Jam Wiki? -- Andrew H. (Sapphire) 21:53, 27 October 2006 (EDT)
Thanks. I go by the rules. I have deleted the templates on the individual pages. You can delete the Template page itself. Sorry, for the trouble. -- P.K.Niyogi 03:07, 28 October 2006 (EDT)
The IP that you blocked has begun spamming Wikitravel Shared. Here's the Contributions for 184.108.40.206 on Shared. I don't know if you want to investigate and take a similar measure that you used today. Personally, I don't feel it's necessary to block the IP, because it seems to be random and very weird vandalism, but it seems to go away after a few minutes. -- Andrew H. (Sapphire) 16:24, 29 October 2006 (EST)
University of Chicago Links
Hello, Ryan. Thank you for reverting Your Servant's edit to link University of Chicago. You have nipped in the bud an effort Your Servant undertook. As you indicate, universities are not something for which you normally create individual articles; and Your Servant was about to do just that. Instead, Your Servant will study Wikitravel:What is an article?; and he will ask his questions in the Wikitravel:Travellers' pub. Best regards, User:Dionysios | DYYYY2006 | DMMDD1103 | THHMMSS141900 | BXT | 14:18, November 3, 2006 (CST)
How about you correct the entry yourself. Here's your source: http://www.indiana.edu/~arch/saa/matrix/naa/naa_web/mod15D.html
Look at Item 2b, subitem 3, where the chronology mentions that the Anasazi start to "identify" themselves through the material record. The same is true for Mimbres, Hohokam, etc. We, as archaeologists, cannot even begin to assume that we can truly identify a culture solely through material remains. When you read enough SW arch. journals, you'll begin to understand that cultural associations such as that with the Anasazi, are purely based on recognition of pattern via basketware, ceramics, etc. That's precisely why anything pre-formative is classified as Archaic or Paleo. Is that enough for you?
Thanks for the welcome. I saw your note on deleting the external link to the navajo nation website. I put my justification on the talk:Navajo Nation. If you'd care to elaborate. I actually thought there was useful information for travellers going to the Navajo nation on that website.Charles 21:12, 4 November 2006 (EST)
As a member of the Diné, Ryan, it amazes me how you have infiltrated wikitravel with your mediocre postings/edits on the Southwest and Diné culture. Although my "abuses" will most likely continue, I cannot help but feel sorry for you, a typical Californian who goes to Phoenix on occasion, and has what is most obviously a limited, surficial knowledge of the region.
I live 30 minutes from White Sands N.M. How many times have you been there? How much of New Mexico have you truly seen? (It's evident that you have visited Utah more than a few times, however, based on your partiality towards its natural resources.) How extensively have you traveled Arizona? Have you hiked Palm Canyon in the Kofas, or spent a week at Organ Pipe? Have you seen a coati troupe meandering through the red rocks (I know you love these particular geologic features) of the Chiricahuas near Portal?
Do you consider the Navajo Nation to be the only native nation worth mentioning, while ignoring our brothers and sisters (the pueblos, Apache, etc.)? Did you realize that Taos and Acoma pueblos are among the longest continuously inhabited sites in the United States? Do you realize that the Apache are related to the Diné linguistically and genetically? Did you know that the Mescalero Apache operate the southernmost "high mountain" ski resort in the country?
I could bother you with endless questions, of which I know you would not feel in the least bit compelled to humble yourself and ask whether or not you are truly qualified to have your fingers in so many articles pertaining to this region.
Thanks for the welcome! This is the first time on WikiTravel that I've got such a quick one. I was on a bit of a hiatus after the birth of my baby, but it's good to be back. I'm also working on another wiki (www.wikioutdoors.com). Check it out if you get a chance. Kirasw 17:09, 10 November 2006 (EST)
Would you please proofread the understand section of Deadwood? I'd appreciate it. I tend to let sentence run on and throw commas about so you may want to pay particular attention to that. -- Sapphire 18:02, 10 November 2006 (EST)
Check out WikiPedia:Valencia, Santa Clarita, California. This seems to be some sort of Very Special issue seen frequently in Southern California: places wih names that make them appear to be cities, but they are actually just a section of an incorporated city. Besides the three parts of Santa Clarita, a bunch of locales within the City of Los Angeles pretend to be stand alone cities too. Argh. I guess for the traveller, it makes a lot of sense to follow this convention, but I'm concerned that without clear borders on these pseudocities there will eventually be regionlike ambiguity over which article a particular listing belongs in. That's kinda why I ran away from the problem when injecting California hotel entries. If you check out User:Cjensen/project/hotelmaker/California and look for listings whose articles have not yet been created, about 60% of them are for pseudocities. -- Colin 22:14, 12 November 2006 (EST)
Any opinions on which tags should be in by default (we should totally make this a recommendation at Wikitravel:Listings). I'm thinking just the "recommended tags". -- Colin 23:53, 16 November 2006 (EST)
I don't think "hours" applies to a sleep tag. What do you think? (Though I could see the case for adding check-in and out someday, but those would probably be different tags.) -- Colin 00:06, 17 November 2006 (EST)
I don't understand why hotels can list on WikiTravel but I can't list a luxury vacation home rental company. I stayed there. Its great. One of the nices places I've stayed. :-( -- Gutsche
Jet lag article
I thought that Wikipedia was completely uncopyrighted. The noticle on their site says :
The Wikimedia Foundation does not own copyright on Wikipedia article texts and illustrations. It is therefore useless to email our contact addresses asking for permission to reproduce content.
Did I miss something or has there been a change? -- MMKK 18:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Ryan. I appreciate the kind words! There certainly isn’t a dearth of (quality) restaurants in Los Angeles, so it’s nice to be able to get them written-up in the travel guide. I stray to other cities occasionally, but since I live in Los Angeles I feel like I really have a better grasp of the culinary scene. Now I’m hungry! (I was unsure where to respond. If it's easier to do so on my Talk page just let me know. Thanks.)
I agree, it's "Usable," but the reason I didn't change the status myself is that I've been trying to decide what a "UsablePark" template might look like, and was delaying until I had a satisfying answer. Any thoughts? The things that make a "park" article useful are not necessarily identical to those for city, region, etc. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 17:04, 9 December 2006 (EST) (P.S. Give WikiOutdoors a try; she's doing a good thing, and needs all the help she can get.)
Discussion moved to Wikitravel talk:Deletion policy#Union (Maine)
Guide indeed, good article! Surfas is great and the traffic lights, indeed, are not - I kept my ticket though, the photo was fairly decent :) Cacahuate 01:57, 25 December 2006 (EST)
Do you have opinions regarding either of these related discussions? I'd like to move forward with them soon... sorry they're so long-winded, but if you have a second...
If not, well keep on ignoring them :) Cacahuate 02:02, 26 December 2006 (EST)
CCSA & GDFL
sorry, i thought that the rule applied only for images. could you please re-format the text. i mentioned it in the edit history, so just compare it with the last version, pick out the text and write it in your own words. i'll have a shot at it myself, if it looks different enough from the original, i'll add it. Take care. Upamanyuwikitravel 13:38, 30 January 2007 (EST)
Re: JensAndMarian Discussion
No problem; I almost put it there myself, and probably would have except that the Copyleft talk page was already fairly long.
The real question is whether we've learned anything from this episode and whether anything needs to be done. It would be nice if the "discussion" (to use the polite word) were to continue under circumstances that prevent a recurrence. I'm not optimistic. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 14:44, 2 February 2007 (EST)
Hi Ryan, this guy is making life hell for everyone by changing names. You're an administrator, can't you tell him to get lost and bump him off permanently.
Upamanyuwikitravel 09:28, 6 February 2007 (EST)
Apologies for my deletion in Wikitravel talk:External links, I didn't mean to do that.
BTW, after your unrevert, I also restored my comment in Wikitravel talk:External links#Guidebooks (Reference to), hopefully you don't mind (or let me know if you do). --DenisYurkin 22:42, 8 February 2007 (EST)
Hey Ryan, thanks. I only left that in case someone objected with my reasoning, but perhaps I should have raised that question somewhere else like on the deletion policy page... thanks! - Cacahuate 20:06, 21 February 2007 (EST)
You're pictures are great, never noticed before, until I just came across the White Sands one... nice work! If you're ever bored we should meet up for coffee or something, I'm back in LA semi-permanently for now - Cacahuate 20:11, 22 February 2007 (EST)
Hahah, I wish it was only food and beverage theft! I was drugged TWICE with sodium oxybate AND gassed with hydrogen sulfide at this centre. Security failed to do a single thing about any of the three incidents!
What's funny about it?
Hi, thats alright, I just thought that being fact it might need to stay, although as you say I don't think the traveller needs to know political details, thanks for your input --MiddleEastern 08:50, 1 March 2007 (EST)
Hi, Do we warn main page spammers? Just seems like anon users haven't been being warned recently? --MiddleEastern 14:35, 5 March 2007 (EST)
can you send me an email at email@example.com? I have some questions I'd like to ask you.
Greetings from the Midwest,
No problem with that revert. This one just caught my eye and irritated me because he does not contribute, only advertise. I'll vfd a photo from the same user in a moment Image:Romanya60.JPG
My apologies for stuffing up your talk page when I tried this reply earlier, connection to wikitravel is on a go-slow and firefox did not want to play nicely. I think it is an indication that I now need to step away from the keyboard and call it a day --NJR_ZA 13:31, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for the info about the isin template? I tried to find the answer but got lost. Oh well, again, thanks!!! Celticevergreen 18:07, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
Any idea what's with that guy? -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:22, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
Lost Paddle Rafting
Hi Ryan! I apologize for posting multiple listings for my web on wiki-travel. I was so excited to discover this site I guess I got carried away with posting it to what I believed to be relevant categories. If you could please remove my site www.lostpaddlerafting dot com from the blacklist I will repost it only in the city I am located. Or, can I place it under Colorado since we operate through-out the state? Please let me know where you think it might be most appropriate and I'll place it only once. Thanks! jwick p.s. I had to write out dot com as I am still black listed:)
Oops...now that was of course NOT intended. It is some weird mechanism that i haven't figured out yet. I think this has happended before. Sorry. 220.127.116.11 22:43, 3 May 2007 (EDT)
Hi, I added the "generic terms" because that's what the spambot is using. I don't think they'll ever relate to wikitravel, whereas the hostnames used (mostly university proxies) probably will. Jordanmills 15:10, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
Mountain View (California)
There are a lot of female travelers that would welcome information on nail salons etc. I know a number of professional woman that seldom gets time to pamper themselves while doing the 9 to 5 thing, so they always incorporate this into their holidays. Maybe information like that can go under the Cope section? --NJR_ZA 05:42, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
This is Ryan from Internet Brands. I've been in touch with Evan and Michele over the past several months, but I haven't had a chance to introduce myself to you and the other sysops, so I'm taking some time out now to address each of you. I'd love to solicit your opinion on something, so I'd very much appreciate it if you could email me directly at the following address: firstname.lastname@example.org
In any case, keep up the good work, and I look forward to hearing from you! - Pastrami on Ry 17:43, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
Wait... I stand corrected... I DO see the "E-Mail this user" button now. How strange... - Pastrami on Ry 19:04, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
Hello there hoss, Your history is evidence that you spend a considerable amount of time on your site. I think it can be a great resource, I want to understand the rules.
I wanted to beef up some san diego content and so I posted a link to a neighborhood guide from our visitors site and you nuked it.
I am not going to go through the trouble of redoing it nor am i looking to challenge you. I merely would like to understand where you find the line to be drawn. I understand you fight a constant battle daily and so you seem to have it nailed down.
However there is not many sites left on the web that does not have some affiliate with making money. I understand these pages have ads but I was not going to rewrite their whole guide and i figured a dot org would have held some grace with you.
Thanks for taking the time to explain and then go get some fresh air!
CotW unscheduled nominations are getting a bit thin!
Thanks for redirection help!
LADave 01:16, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for the heads up
... on our friend. My instinct was pretty good I guess, but I played it straight anyways. OldPine 19:24, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
Inspired by my new Barnstar, I unpacked a huge number of links in St. Louis, did a lot of anonymous work on some secret places a certain friend shouldn't learn about, and generally kicked WT butt! Thanks ;) Speaking of butt, mines a little sore. Later. OldPine 17:50, 1 July 2007 (EDT)
Local spam blacklist
Thanks for your timely reminder about not being too hasty in adding website addresses to the spam blacklist, which I think you were spurred to write by my doing just that with a persistent spammer on the Mandarmani article. Actually, in some cases, I think the contributors just assume that a guide is a natural place to add their company's website and are not necessarily spammers (per se). At least, at you say, we should inform them of the policy and give ample them the opportunity to stop, and resorting to using the blacklist should be a final resort only. Anyway, I appreciate the reminder, and I'll be more aware to use other methods first in the future. WindHorse 04:11, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
You have destroyed a lot of my hard work. You have to be ashamed of yourself. =(
Ryan, you had some thoughts about the plan to tech:optionally split long guides into one page per section. Since I've got a new version of software on review: to do this, I'd love to get your feedback on the shared: tech page. --Evan 13:27, 10 July 2007 (EDT)
Uploading pictures problem
Thanks for the clear to understand explanation of the links....
I have also been having a problem with d/l the pictures. I upload them, but the link I need to paste it to the picture, is not there....[[picture.jpg|discussion} This!!!
so I have nothing to copy to paste to the main page....The only way that I can get that, is by d/l again, immediately after the first time
Something seems to be wrong...and needs to be fixed somehow, because I was stopped twice today, from adding a picture to the article.
Flowergirl 23:16, 14 July 2007 (EDT)
Away for a week, so I won't be around to annoy newbies with cross-edits for a while :) (sometimes I just can't help myself). Keep up the good work. Love ya, man. OldPine 20:33, 20 July 2007 (EDT)
This was just a silly mistake on my part. For some reason I missed that this was in the user's userspace and I didn't get any hits for L'Aquatique, Idaho. Thanks for catching that! I'm afraid it's not possible to be on the opposite side of this argument ;) --Peter Talk 23:03, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
Hey, guy. I was going to change this to an "otheruses" for Madison, WI -- see the talk page there -- but thought I'd run it by you first. It happens to be your disambiguation. Not a big deal one way or the other. Verbeek is usually my litmus for these things, but haven't seen him around. OldPine 07:41, 2 August 2007 (EDT)
Hi Ryan, since you were earlier leaning towards keeping the RFC archives, would you mind commenting on the current proposal being discussed here? I personally like the current motion, but wouldn't want to push it through without hearing from you first. Thanks! --Peter Talk 02:41, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
I just unblocked an ip that you blocked since there was only 3 edits and nothing too hard to keep up with, but I'm a little tired and simulating drunk, so sorry I did that without us coming to some sort of conclusion at Wikitravel talk:User ban nominations yet. – cacahuate talk 04:19, 23 August 2007 (EDT)
Apartments in Madrid
Thank you for your explanation about my article´s removal. The thing is that as freelance, my fiscal physical addres is my personal one, were there´s no problem to receive renters in case. Even is the same street number, same main door, where two of my to-rent apartments are. I don´t have an office where clients must pick up the keys, as myself, as courtesy service, receive clients at their apartment. Things so, does this mean that if I include my fiscal address on my site, I can insert the article again? Sorry, and thanks again. I tried to do my best with the rules!
Thanks for stepping in, but unfortunately, I don't think those blocks of the anonymous spammers are going to help much in and of themselves. Other wikis where I admin are having the same problem, namely, something somewhere that spams from an address, then automatically shifts addresses. They usually don't spam more than a few times from the same address before the whole thing goes dormant. The only antidote that I've ever found is the blacklist; thanks for doing that too, that has a chance of stemming the flood.
I'd really like to know what's in the mind of these cretins who do these attacks. They are targeted incredibly precisely against wikis. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 23:03, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
I don't know about you folks (I'm sending the same message to several), but I for one am getting sick and tired of the intentional vandalism that's going on here. I am trying to start a discussion on Wikitravel talk:Community policies as to whether something more forceful needs to be in place to deal with it. Historically, we have bent far over backwards to avoid punitive action against vandals and have simply gone in and cleaned up the messes they create. However, the frequency of vandalism is growing, and I am not convinced that we are doing Wikitravel a service by tolerating it. This said, I'm not at all sure what the "right" response is.
I'd appreciate your participation in the discussion on that talk page. Let's see if we can come up with something appropriate. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 11:45, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
Protecting the main page
Could I request that you not use the expiration field when you protect the main page? I discovered after you protected the main page once using an automated expiration option, that it also removed the move protection when the protection expired. That's when the vandal was able to move the Main Page around.
Your advice wanted
Proliferation of new users
Did you see the huge number of users created (by another recently-created user) just before your recent block? I smell a spam attack coming, but am not convinced we can do anything pre-emptive. Opinion? -- Bill-on-the-Hill 11:31, 26 October 2007 (EDT)
Hey Ryan, I'll leave the block be for now, but isn't it against policy to ban users without first discussing? As far as I'm aware they weren't crossing any lines that we have drawn up for immediate bans. "Keeping up" with them couldn't be any more easy, and as a matter of fact, I was kind of enjoying the cat and mouse game ;) --Peter Talk 22:46, 7 November 2007 (EST)
San Francisco Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Dear Ryan, I have just seen your edits at http://wikitravel.org/en/Talk:San_Francisco relating to Rudy Colombini's Center for the Performing Arts and The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, both at 1353-1355 Bush Street, San Francisco. To answer your question about where they belong - actually neither of these venues exist. 1353-1355 is a hotel called the James Court Hotel, aka The Nob Hill Pension http://pacificequitieswest.com/photo_html/bushstreet.html There are plans to set up a musical venue here but they are stalled, apparently due to objections. This is not going to come to fruition for at least 3-4 years, if at all.
This is really just spam, probably put there by the owner, Rudy Colombini himself, as the IP address 18.104.22.168 resolves to 835 Hyde Street - the offices of his company Pacific Equities West LLC. For some information on him and his spamming activities- please see an article on Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Phr/Talk:Rudy_Colombini This article documents how he has been a persistent spammer on Wikipedia - trying to pass himself off as a member of the real band 'The Divine Comedy', advertising his hotels on an encyclopedic website, replacing links to desirable and notable hotels and establishments with those of his own.etc etc...
Actually, there is also a hell of a lot of spam been put here on Wikitravel too from this same IP. See http://wikitravel.org/en/Special:Contributions/22.214.171.124 As you can see this guy has been flagrantly deleting references to all his competitor hotels, advertising his hotels under San Fran districts that they are clearly not in, constantly editing an artice to ensure that his hotels always remain at the top of the list and advertising non-existent musical venues. I know that, unlike Wikipedia, you are allowed advertise on Wikitravel, but surely this kind of behaviour is bad for the community. I am new to 'Wiki's' and don't quite know how to address this. Any ideas?? I was thinking of setting up a page to deal with this matter - similar to the one that was set up on Wikipedia. Do you think this would be appropriate or do you have any other ideas on how to deal with this. Would appreciate any help. Thanks Asterix 14:31, 7 February 2008 (EST)
WTP on Lulu
Thanks for the heads up -- that's the second time already that Lulu has just "lost" the alias to the store. Fixed now, but who knows for how long... Jpatokal 06:52, 4 August 2008 (EDT)
Latvia is a lawful part of Northern EU
Hi, I see your Europe's hierarchy page, but to me, and most other geographers that seem really naive. Latvia is lawfully and officially a part of Northern Europe and is been so since her independence proclamation; saying otherwise means you don't know much about its history. I would love you to read these facts which show just a little bit of the history, but there, of course, is much more than that: Before the Soviet occupation, Latvia had no bounds with Russia or any other eastern european country, but as early as 5th century Latvia has strong bounds with Sweden (read Curonians), being an important part of the Viking era. Since that time and being under Swedish rule for more than hundred years, latvians, especially courlanders are significantly influenced by Swedes. The strong bounds between south-eastern part of Sweden and especially, Gotland, and denmark died out only after the russian occupation. Ruhnu is geographically a Latvian island, oficially- Estonian, this island has been for centuries populated by pure Swedes, in fact, they had to flee to Sweden when the Soviets came in in 1941 and later 1944. So, clear Swedish island, with a significant, unique Swedish culture for centuries now..a part of Eastern europe? How comes? This is not the only island, of course. The rights for the land have been granted back to Swedish families. 2. Latvia was a part of the Hanseatic League. It was a strong, significant alliance upon which most of Latvia's cities and culture are even built, it had absolutely nothing to do with any of the East as it was strongly and an alliance of only the Northern Europe. 3. Latvia's TRUE indigenous people- livonians are hundred percent, full blooded finno-ugric, having a finno-ugric language and sharing extreme cultural similarities with Finns. Eastern european you say? 4. Latvia and Estonia share significant cultural similiarities with the rest of the Northern countries. You simply have to visit one of those countries and I'm sure, you won't be willing to call it Eastern europe. 5. Anthropoligacally, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania have nothing to do, whatsoever, with none of the Eastern countries. You should read more on this matter. Latvians, Estonians and Finns have split from the same branch, with Latvians picking up different language branch but having strong bonds with Estonians still to this day. I ask you to do something in this matter, even the big wikipedia have got things right, and so do most of other encyclopedias, it would be wrong to have some self-made (and wrong made!) "hierarchy" on quite an important page, when Baltic countries are officially (and I repeat this- officially) a lawful part of the Northern europe. I'd love to see the truth on this page, one day.