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Please, be as critical as possible, since I am still relatively new at this.
Please, be as critical as possible, since I am still relatively new at this.
--[[User:Intheback|Intheback]] 03:23, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
--[[User:Intheback|Intheback]] 03:23, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
== Kabak/Aphrodisias/Bergama ==
Hey V, just wanted to see what you thought about
*My edits after describing the tourism development in [[Kabak]] in more general terms. I took out the negative references, but should I also take out the positive ones too, to be more balanced?
*I made a new article on [[Aphrodisias]], since there was nothing there before. How does it look?
*I've made some extensive edits on [[Bergama]]. How are those?
Please, be as critical as possible, since I am still relatively new at this.
--[[User:Intheback|Intheback]] 03:24, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Revision as of 07:28, 1 July 2011


Wow! Thanks for all your contributions to Turkey. I guess we're a little late with the official welcome, but here goes:

Hello Vidimian! Welcome to Wikitravel.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Wikitravel:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If I can be of any help, don't hesitate to ask. -- OldPine 19:55, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Thank you. I've been reading Wikitravel for a long time but I've recently started writing seriously. I guess I can find out how to do but thanks for your suggestions anyway.--Vidimian 20:38, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Great work on Turkey, keep it up! I look forward to using it in July. Jpatokal 07:58, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
Thank you. I hope you'll find it useful and enjoy your trip. --Vidimian 08:01, 26 March 2008 (EDT)


Thanks for all of your cleanups and updates to add Template:isPartOf and WikiPedia links. One tip - Template:isPartOf is preferred to Template:isIn since it doesn't require any escaping, meaning that something like {{isPartOf|South (United States of America)}} is totally valid. -- Ryan • (talk) • 20:44, 19 February 2009 (EST)

No problem! I just happen to have some free time. I prefer isin over ispartof just because it's shorter and quicker to type, but I'll try to use ispartof more often from now on.--Vidimian 20:48, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Central Anatolia borders

If we need to define the borders more clearly for Central Anatolia before getting the map finished, then lets do so! Is there a discussion started already? --Peter Talk 00:16, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

There will be one in a minute or two. I need some time to put it clearly in English.--Vidimian 00:54, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
Discussion is here.--Vidimian 01:28, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

Turkey regions map

Hey, I finally finished that regions map for Turkey! Do you have any suggestions for improvements? Roads to be added/removed, cities that should be displayed, etc. --Peter Talk 00:43, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

I think it's pretty much OK. I especially liked your selection of "other destinations" - may Ephesus and Pamukkale added as other destinations too if they won't clutter the map? D400 -the highway running along the Med coast- may also be added, it possesses some touristical importance and right now it looks like there is no major highway along the length of a third of that coast. Just adding a line along the coast would do that fine. And there is a typo at Doğebeyazıt - it should be Doğubeyazıt.--Vidimian 04:59, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
Added and fixed. Let me know if you have any other suggestions/critiques! --Peter Talk 05:21, 8 June 2009 (EDT)


Thanks a lot for listingifying at Bangkok/Sukhumvit! It is much appreciated :) --globe-trotter 19:34, 5 February 2010 (EST)

No problem! I'll do some more throughout the month.—Vidimian 20:15, 5 February 2010 (EST)
Again thanks! Only Sukhumvit and Silom left :) --globe-trotter 19:07, 14 February 2010 (EST)
Yes, I've noticed that. You are so quick that I'd like to listingify a few more listings before you went through the rest—that was the reason why I did a bunch more tonight :) —Vidimian 19:43, 14 February 2010 (EST)


I wanted to say thank you very much for all your help with regionalisation discussion and implementation, particularly for southeastern Europe. Absolutely invaluable. You are probably aware of our mission to conquer the world :), and you will see that after the recent push, there is very little left to do in Europe. Indeed, there is relatively little left to do period, and the end is in sight for what was a truly mammoth task. Your help is especially appreciated in this field, as there are few Wikitravellers willing to to do the rather unglamorous region-related work.--Burmesedays 09:29, 27 April 2010 (EDT)

It is a pleasure for me to help on regionalizing work :). Yes, I am well aware of the expedition, and in fact I've tried to do a couple of Turkish regions maps (not really related to this particular "conquering the world" project at the moment) but just couldn't figure out how to use Inkscape in the end, so I guess I won't be able to help with actual drawing of the maps, at least in a foreseeable future. As to what I can do/have done to help the expedition, as you possibly have already noticed, I try to join discussions on regionalizing whenever I spot them on recent changes or the expedition page (so those "see discussion" links next to the country names are really useful!) if I feel like joining the discussion; and I try to clean up country articles after the regionalization is implemented (descriptions, moves, redirects, breadcrumbs etc). Is there any particular discussion or particular regionalization work I can help at the moment? – Vidimian 09:51, 27 April 2010 (EDT)
As for discussion, I think we are almost there, bar for small islands.
  • Two major countries which may still present some issues are Portugal (been a problem child for a long time) and Panama (I think there are too many proposed regions - they outnumber the city articles).
  • Guatemala is a major outstanding country - the regions seem sensible but I have no idea where the borders should be set. Additionally the country article is in a bit of a state.
  • I have just finished Slovakia and I am sure the regions could use some better descriptions etc....--Burmesedays 11:35, 27 April 2010 (EDT)
I have pushed on with the Bosnia map as per Stefan's scheme at Talk:Bosnia and Herzegovina#Regions, and ought to have it finished within a day or 2. If you wanted to start the regionalisation work as per that scheme, then the timing would be excellent. I will chip in as well of course but help would be much appreciated. --Burmesedays 00:59, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
OK, I am starting right away. – Vidimian 05:18, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
Great stuff and thanks very much. Map is now added to the article. Works well I think.--Burmesedays 11:23, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
Yes, the map is great! Cheers. – Vidimian 14:38, 3 May 2010 (EDT)

wikitravel türkçe

çok teşekkür ederim açıklamanızz için.ingilizcem yeterli olmadığı için bir yorum getiremiyordum.iyi oldu bu. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hasan travel (talkcontribs)

Rica ederim, desenize tahminim doğru çıktı. :) Eğer başka bir konuda İngilizce'yle ilgili yardıma ihtiyaç duyarsanız, hiç çekinmeden demek istediğinizi bana iletebilirsiniz, ben de İngilizce'ye çeviririm, tabii buralarda olduğum sürece (ki son zamanlarda bayağı bir vakit geçiriyorum bu sitede). – Vidimian 18:47, 4 May 2010 (EDT)

Türkçe Wikitravel Çevirisi

Eğer mümkünse Türkçe Wikitravel sayfasının nasıl açılacağını bana izah edebilir misiniz?Ben Türkçe kodlama sürümünün çevirisini yaptım, tabi bazı ufak tefek hatalarla. http://wikitravel.org/shared/Turkish_Wikitravel_Expedition Sanırım bu sayfa yardımcı olacaktır. Hasan 11:48, 8 May 2010 (EDT)hasan_travel

Çok derinlemesine bilmesem de takip edebildiğim kadarıyla anladığım şu: Wikitravel:LanguageTr.php dosyasının çevirilmesi tamamlanmış (sayenizde ve yanlış hatırlamıyorsam bir başka kullanıcının yardımıyla) ve bu dosya Wiki yazılımına eklenmiş. Şimdi tek gereken Wikitravel'ın serverlarını elinde bulunduran Internet Brands'ten birilerinin Türkçe versiyonu başlatması. Buna dair de sizin tartışma sayfanızda bir not vardı, kimlere e-mail göndermeniz gerektiğine dair. Ancak, yine takip edebildiğim kadarıyla, Internet Brands, Wikitravel kullanıcıları topluluğunun isteklerini karşılamak konusunda çok yavaş ve isteksiz, dolayısıyla yollayacağınız bir e-mail'e hemen karşılık gelmesini beklemeyin. Konuyla ilgilenen arkadaşlarınız varsa ya da başka kullanıcılar tanıyorsanız, şirket üzerinde baskı kurmak için hepinizin ayrı ayrı e-mail'ler göndermenizi öneririm (ama yine de hepsi bir örnek mail'ler yollamayın ki işin ciddiyeti azalmasın), ki Türkçe versiyonu kullanacak (katkıda bulunacak ve okuyacak) geniş bir kitle olduğunu düşünsünler—umarım gerçekten de geniş bir kitlesi olur. :) Yakın geçmişte (Aralık/Ocak civarı yanlış hatırlamıyorsam) Korece versiyon açıldı, onlar çeviriye Türkçe'den önce başlayıp önce bitirmişlerdi, ama onlar da aylarca beklediler versiyonlarının açılmasını. – Vidimian 12:59, 8 May 2010 (EDT)


Merhaba! You can do hard reverts too. You only need to go to the page history and select the version you would like to revert to compared to the current version. Press view and then simply double click on that version. There will be a warning that you are saving an outdated version but that's the version then you want to. Please write hard revert i the summary so that others are aware you undo several changes. Regards, jan 08:09, 14 May 2010 (EDT)

Guten Tag! Well, I wasn't aware of this feature, thanks for pointing it out. I'll try that next time I have a need for it. – Vidimian 08:15, 14 May 2010 (EDT)


I know you like helping with this sort of thing :). I am doing a proper map for Poland (richly deserved) and am finding all sorts of articles which are more or less orphaned. A lot have come as being in the vovoidship article but not the region. I suspect few users look at the low level vovoidships, so these are close to being orphaned. I have a found a lot and am putting that right but I am sure there are more! This also means we can now have some ODs listed in the main country article - there were none. That was sad to see for country with such amazing National Parks. The map is coming together really well and will look good I think.--Burmesedays 08:17, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

The new map looks great, especially compared with the old one that I remember seeing, but I wish that non-contiguous "Eastern" region could be reshaped into a region with better defined borders in the process, though no big deal really. I'll take a quick look to what I can see at the moment, but due to a trip early in the tomorrow morning (and preparations thereof), I'll be offline in the coming few days, but I'll be glad to help when I return. Just for the record, these vfd'd articles can be really helpful: National Parks in Poland, Poland:Mountains, Poland:UNESCO World Heritage Sites, Poland:Spas, Poland:Lakes and Coastlines. – Vidimian 14:48, 16 May 2010 (EDT)
Oh my. This proves to be harder than I initially thought. And most subregions have up to 9 cities anyway, which means we shouldn't really be moving cities from them to a region one level up in the hierarchy, so is there any better solution short of creating full sets of sub-sub-regions for unknown and far away lands? – Vidimian 16:14, 16 May 2010 (EDT)
OK, I checked all subregions (voivodships) and their subarticles (if exist), and, as far as national parks are concerned, all are listed in the highest level regions of Poland, so a big applause to you! As I can see from a quick look, some subregions and possibly many city and OD articles need their breadcrumbs fixed though, I'll try to take care of them when I have more time. – Vidimian 16:32, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Admin nom

I gather you may be offline at present, but when you're back, would you please let us know if you accept your admin nomination here. Thanks! --Peter Talk 21:36, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

Two weeks have passed, so welcome to the admin club! Check out the Wikitravel:Administrator's handbook for instructions on how to use your shiny new buttons. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:39, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
Thanks! I was wondering what the new emerging buttons could be! :) – Vidimian 16:42, 25 May 2010 (EDT)


Hi, thank you for helping patrolling, it appears that you patrol one edit at a time, which of course is ok, but you might find it easier to use Enhanced recent changes (preferences -> recent changes), --ClausHansen 11:15, 5 June 2010 (EDT)

Hi. Yes, I patrol one edit at a time, I somehow found it easier (and more managable) than patrolling all the edits done by a user once—which I gave a try sometime in the past—for some reason I can't remember at the moment, but thanks for pointing out anyway. – Vidimian 15:12, 5 June 2010 (EDT)


You're right, Flemish is not a language, the only official language of Flanders in Dutch. But the Dutch in Flanders is pronounced differently, that's why Flemish people tend to call it "Flemish". However, you're right that we dont have to complicate readers with these linguistic details. --globe-trotter 07:17, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

Yes, I've made that change after taking a look at relevant Wikipedia articles (plus, it would be silly and potentially confusing to have one "Flemish" in the article while throughout the article elsewhere it is referred to as "Dutch"). What would you think about having a sole mention of "Flemish" in Flanders#Talk, such as "... is Dutch, locally called Flemish...", would it be helpful for travellers or would it be needless hairsplitting? Having such a mention may preempt possible future edit wars based on linguistic (over)sensitivities. – Vidimian 07:28, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
I think we should just refer to it as Dutch, and maybe give a concise explanation of the pronunciation differences with the Dutch used in the Netherlands. --globe-trotter 09:53, 19 June 2010 (EDT)


Thanks for cleaning up my Muju article - sorry if this is super obvious, but given that that was my first article, I don't know all the style rules just yet. When are outside links acceptable? ie, why the removal of the sobaek mountains/universiade links that went to wikipedia? (not that I'm upset - just trying to figure out how to make cleaner articles in the future!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EdMuju (talkcontribs)

No worries. You can read the policy on what external links are allowed in this page. In short, information should be at the Wikitravel articles (as long as they are travel-related), rather than hidden behind a link, because one of the goals of Wikitravel is to be helpful to travellers as a printout—just names and links with no further explanation would certainly not be very helpful then. – Vidimian 03:02, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

Thanks (2)

I really appreciate your help describing in correct English Sint-Pieters-Leeuw --Etien 21:34, 4 July 2010 (EST)

No problem! Glad to be of help. – Vidimian 15:55, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Offline discussion

I'd like to add you to an ongoing Google Wave discussion relevant for admins, but would need to reach you by email. To preserve your anonymity, you could create an ad hoc email account, associate it with your Wikitravel account, and then email me. I will reply to that email with a Google Wave invitation, for which you can also create an ad hoc @googlewave.com account, to continue to preserve your anonymity. --Peter Talk 08:54, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

Prague Districts

Hello Vidimian, I am just wondering why you replaced my contribution 'elf hostel' to a prague 3 page, but left all sorts of other places to stay on the main page. Is it a work in progress maybe? --Faust 06:49, 22 July 2010 (EDT)


Thank you for the the help on Ashland, Vidimian! ~ Stidmatt 24 July 2010 2:18

Blackouts in Albania

Just for information, there are no blackouts in Albania since 2007. In fact, we export energy to Greece during winter. Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AM-TR (talkcontribs) 07:44, 30 August 2010

St John's Newfoundland travel page - do not add Fairmont

Hello -

I had deleted the Fairmont hotel from the St John's, Newfoundland wikitravel page. I see that following then, you went in and reverted the page to as it was previously, with the Fairmont included.

The reason I deleted the Fairmont is it no longer exists - it has been converted into the Sheraton Hotel Newfoundland.

Please refrain from adding the Fairmont back to this wikitravel page.

Thank you.


—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 14:52, 30 August 2010

Ah, OK, that makes sense. If you would have noted that in the edit summary box below the editing window, I wouldn't re-add that. Just for the record, something like "closed listing removed" would do, if you need to remove another listing in the future. We usually have touts and SEOs of hotels coming to Wikitravel with their IP numbers and removing their competitors' listings and I thought that might be such a case. – Vidimian 11:00, 30 August 2010 (EDT)

Thanks (3)

Thanks for clueing me in on the great Albania blackout debate!sethinthebox 15:11, 2 September 2010 (EDT)


Thanks for the welcome - you win my undying admiration if you worked out the name without googling it!

Mars-Say-Yeah 09:51, 14 October 2010 (EDT)

Welcome note

Thank you very much for your welcome note- I have started my works on the Belur article. I can contribute at the photo department too. I am hoping to contribute to about 50 south Indian locations of tourist interest. Looking forward to your support- Thanks again and Regards- Rajkumar Vijayraj

Odd behaviour of new listing

Hi, I was a bit surprised to find that after adding a listing to the Istanbul/Galata Eat section, it disappeared, only to be present in the history section. How odd! Looking through the bug reports, it looked to me as though it may be a recurrent problem after an admin edits a template. Do you agree? Maxpax 01:34, 5 November 2010 (EDT) Thanks for your helpful reply. Maxpax 03:22, 6 November 2010 (EDT)

If you do not mind and object to me editing, in this case Eskişehir, which I rarely do because I only contribute if I know the subject well or if I have updates avialble – in this case about climates.

The previous anonymous user did the wrong thing by simply erasing part of the climate section of Eskişehir, which looks like vandalism.

If you do not mind and object to me editing, which I do rarely because I only contribute (very infrequently) if I know the subject well or if I have updates avialble – in this case about climates.

The phenomenon of winter rain is false because it is not a feature of the climate of Eskişehir or indeed most of the interior and high Anatolian plateau, it also not a feature of Istanbul or the Blcak Sea coast for that matter. This is only restricted to those places in Turkey which do have a mediterranean climate . During winter, precipitation is mostly in the form of snow (I live there ve Türkçe konuşabiliyorum), because Eskişehir despite being in western Turkey, has a slightly harsher winter and indeed slightly drier climate than Ankara to its east. This is due to to its topography apart from its altitude.

Kindest regards


Thank you for your assistance with Gabrovo

Thank you for your assistance with the Gabrovo, Bulgaria, entry. However, I am pulling the article for the moment owing becuase to trouble with my user name. I have saved the HTML version of the Gabrovo entry in a text file on my computer, so the work is not lost. However, I made an error when I registered as "NatureParkBulgarka." I am an American Peace Corps Volunteer working at Nature Park Bulgarka, but I should have registered as "RoberttSullivan1973", my usual handle under these circumstances. Any assistance you can provide will be appreciated. NatureParkBulgarka 09:20, 28 December 2010 (EST)


Thank you for your help with Nature Park Bulgarka. RobertSullivan1973 10:01, 6 January 2011 (EST)

Vidimian, at your earliest convenience, please read the Bulgarka entry again. I am interested in any guidance you have to offer on how the article may be improved enough to be nominated for "Off the Beaten Path." RobertSullivan1973 02:24, 13 January 2011 (EST)

Arbitration request

I'm sorry to bug you with this, but could you please take a look at the Daejeon article is you have a moment? I'm hoping I'm requesting this in the right way. There's an issue there with User:Felix505 initiating an edit war and I'd much rather call in third-party abritration than play along. I felt the need to revert a portion of his intial edits as they changed the article from correct to incorrect in more than a few places. Other edits were petty, right down to the old English vs American English chestnut. Regardless, he has since re-reverted those and taken now to reverting the revisions and any further work or additions to the page. Attempts to discuss this civilly with him have unfortunately failed. Please see his talk page for the discussion (I realise parts of that discussion should really be on the article talk page, and I guess parts will have to be moved over once things are settled - my bad on that :/)

I've included a comment on the Discussion page for the article listing some of the most recent edits. For the record, I actually live in the city at present (short term stay) and it's clear to me at least from the edits he has not ever been there (I'm actually going to suspect he has not visited the country itself given a comment about the country's national public transport links). Anyhow, the last accurate version of the page, in my opinion, is this: http://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Daejeon&oldid=1635833

Sorry about dumping this one on you. Also, I never did thank you before, but cheers for the warm welcome message back way when I signed up! :) —The preceding comment was added by Snave (talkcontribs)

No worries, I'm right on my way checking that out (and I see ChubbyWimbus already gave a shot at Talk:Daejeon), but I'll need to go through the versions and those lengthy discussions first. I'll too reply at Talk:Daejeon.
Re: welcome message, you're welcome! ;-) – Vidimian 09:36, 28 February 2011 (EST)


yeah that text comes from Wikipedia [1] which was written under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License [2] which apparently is allowed according to the Copyleft licence [3] that you gave me.

If it's not i'll just change it...

Eddi1 09:41, 16 May 2011 (EDT)


Hey V, just wanted to see what you thought about

  • My edits after describing the tourism development in Kabak in more general terms. I took out the negative references, but should I also take out the positive ones too, to be more balanced?
  • I made a new article on Aphrodisias, since there was nothing there before. How does it look?
  • I've made some extensive edits on Bergama. How are those?

Please, be as critical as possible, since I am still relatively new at this. --Intheback 03:23, 1 July 2011 (EDT)


Hey V, just wanted to see what you thought about

  • My edits after describing the tourism development in Kabak in more general terms. I took out the negative references, but should I also take out the positive ones too, to be more balanced?
  • I made a new article on Aphrodisias, since there was nothing there before. How does it look?
  • I've made some extensive edits on Bergama. How are those?

Please, be as critical as possible, since I am still relatively new at this. --Intheback 03:24, 1 July 2011 (EDT)