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Script nomination on ja:

Hello Jani-san,

I'm going to use pywikipedia on the Japanese version of WT with modification; e.g. adding "/Run" pages check. Today, I submitted a request for bot approval to ja:Wikitravel:スクリプト登録依頼#Tatatabot. Would you approve it? -- Tatata 11:47, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Dear Mr. Patokaillo

it's obvious you have a lot vested in the site. you've written a couple of guidebooks and you spend A LOT of time on it. but the bottom line is, whatever you write on it is free for anyone to edit or replace if they are offering an updated or better version without getting hassled on it for really no apparent reason other than...what...a wounded ego? of all people, bureacrats (a befitting title) which you are one should be more aware of this than anyone [[1]]. i will continue to go on editing your or anyone else's work if need be and if you want to nip at my heels for some personal reason I find childish, then do as you wish. it is just unfortunate how you're turning a very good and earnest idea (Wikitravel) into something annoying and tedious. Paula 00:11, 6 January 2009 (EST)

WTP template

Doesn't seem to be working? --Peter Talk 00:52, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Nevermind, brain hiccup. I have the right sidebar turned off in my preferences. --Peter Talk 17:26, 7 January 2009 (EST)


Jani, I did not block EE in regards to his behavior on his talk page. I did so in regards to his edit warring, adding abusive comments on my talk page. Unblocking him was innapropriate. This case has been discussed here, and it would be better to discuss it there than to override me for following that procedure well within the bounds of what we were discussing. --Peter Talk 03:12, 7 January 2009 (EST)

And actually, so was unprotecting. As far as I know, what I did was perfectly within the bounds of our current policy, if perhaps not explicitly sanctioned by it. Discussing first would have been a better way to deal with this disagreement. --Peter Talk 03:27, 7 January 2009 (EST)
One thing that is not explained and I want you Peter to explain it - how am I being abusive? The only reason why I 'edit war' is because you won't even give me the time of day and that really makes me mad. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 21:20, 7 January 2009 (EST)/

Feedback Appreciated

Wow, I am flattered to be nominated. As for Colorado's Wine Country and the "purple prose," please feel free to get out the hedge clippers and trim away my excesses. Sometimes, its hard to see the edits after staring at the screen for so long, reading and rereading. If there's anything else you'd like to see added or fleshed out about the area, I can work on it so that the article doesn't end up in the slush pile. I will hunt down some maps next. WineCountryInn 23:20, 8 January 2009 (EST)Talk

Winery Placement

Hi Jani. I'm keeping abreast of the discussion about the article nomination, and would like to weigh in on the placement of the wineries. I'd rather see them listed in Colorado's Wine Country than in the break downs for individual wine communities. Won't this help the article in its comprehensiveness and further it on its way to becoming a star? Other developments: I have a map on the way from the Palisade CofC, and should have a jpeg (and permission) by Monday for submission. The other cities under Wine Regions will take a little bit of time to flesh out. WineCountryInn 15:47, 9 January 2009 (EST)Talk

Hi Jani. The map is now up at Colorado's Wine Country. WineCountryInn 19:30, 11 January 2009 (EST) Talk

Listing editor on zh

Hello Jani-san,

Someone has started hotel listing on the Chinese version of WT.[2]

I think it's nice to enable the listing editor to be working on the version. If I was admin there, I could set it up myself. Would you set it up, or just flip my sysop flag? -- Tatata 02:05, 9 January 2009 (EST)


Dear Jani-san,

Could you please check the redirect page I created for any problems? I am new to creating disambiguation pages. thanks Sulfis 07:11, 10 January 2009 (EST)


Psst: {subst:welcome} is the easy automated way to welcome people. Jpatokal

HAHA - thanks for the subtle reminder. Due to a heavy work load, it has been some time since I had the opportunity to welcome anyone. I'd forgotten about the auto welcome. Cheers. WindHorse 12:34, 12 January 2009 (EST)


Thanks for reverting this edit. I looked at that edit this morning and somehow convinced myself that it updated the regions to correctly match the map and marked it as patrolled - my bad. Apparently I need to start drinking stronger coffee... -- Ryan • (talk) • 22:49, 16 January 2009 (EST)

Bad mood?

What's this all about?: ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT? DOES WIKITRAVEL LOOK LIKE A BITCH? Is this not your first interaction with this user? Texugo 00:45, 17 January 2009 (EST)

Sorry to jump in - I suspect it's a Pulp Fiction quote that, taken out of context, looks unbelievably harsh. Given the edit that was reverted it's quite funny if you get the reference, but given the fact that many people won't recognize it is something that probably requires explanation. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:35, 17 January 2009 (EST)
Yup. Also, the India#Cities page goes to extraordinary lengths (take a look at the source!) to tell people not to change it without discussion... Jpatokal 04:06, 17 January 2009 (EST)
I'd just like to note that we don't like to be fucked by anyone but Mrs Wallace, and I'm pretty sure she hasn't even been to India-ochina – cacahuate talk 12:57, 17 January 2009 (EST)
LOL! Jpatokal 22:03, 18 January 2009 (EST)


Mind giving a comment over here: Talk:Tokyo#Railway_map ?--Stefan (sertmann) Talk 22:48, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Do you have Scandinavia watchlisted? anyway, thanks for time and time again correcting my English, hope it's not too much trouble :) --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 08:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)


Remember I mentioned in the Saudi Arabia talk page that I said Pokemon is banned in Saudi Arabia. Well this based of these articles (there was also a CNN article, but it was removed):

[3] [4] [5]

And what gives on removing that gay part in Zimbabwe, I'm warning travelers not to go there since it is illegal there and chances are gays and lesbians may get beaten up.

Also, a month ago, I added a tip for gay and lesbian travelers in the China article, since you been to China, I was wondering if can full confirm this:

China is relatively safe for gay and lesbian travelers, as China has no laws against homosexuality. However, the government currently does not recognize same-sex relationships, and homosexual related contents in the media are often censored or banned in China (the controversial film, Brokeback Mountain, is banned in China because of this). Homosexuality is still taboo in China and many Chinese would not like discuss homosexual related topics. Regardless, violence against gays and lesbians are relatively rare. --Dark Paladin X 23:59, 27 January 2009 (EST)

User:Edmontonenthusiast is back

Just a heads up. User:Edmontonenthusiast has snuck in and altered his disclaimer box. WineCountryInn 15:08, 30 January 2009 (EST)

Yeah, I noticed, personally i think we should leave it, and avoid stirring up anything - it's so nice and peacefull at the moment :) --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 16:38, 30 January 2009 (EST)
Too late. I reverted it before you even commented. Texugo 23:13, 30 January 2009 (EST)
I would not panic about it. The reversion is justified because only Logged On Users should be editing their own user pages. It is quite appropriate to revert the page, and possibly appropriate to ban the IP for the rest of the duration of the user ban too! Guilty until proven innocent, in this case, I say. Perhaps we should consider this to be included in any user ban policy too. In any case he did promise not to edit - for a month. - Huttite 23:24, 30 January 2009 (EST)

Pullman Hotel

Hi Jpatokal,

Yes, I removed this hotel because it is not even remotely close to the Sukhumvit Road area. I did add a note explaining this in the Discussion area of the Sukhumvit article, in which I also mentioned that I added two other 5 star hotels along Sukhumvit Road which were missing from the article, plus removed one other - The Amari Watergate - which is also not in the Sukhumvit area. Dantilley 22:59, 1 February 2009 (EST)

Small bit of help required


I made a mistake I'm wondering if you can help me to rectify. I meant to add a new section in the shopping area of Bangkok/Silom for "Malls" but when I tried to do this, it just added a small bullet point in the main shopping intro area. Without any obvious way to undo this, the nearest way I could find to delete this was to delete the text in the bullet point - but this didn't quite work, and so now there's a stray bullet point left hanging above the "Markets" heading! How can this be removed?

Incidentally, what I was doing (and still intend to do) was to add a new section on Malls to include The Silom Complex, Central Silom and The Thanyia Center. The former of that list would be moved from it's current location in "Stores".

Thanks! Dantilley 23:59, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Purging the cache fixed it. Texugo 00:05, 5 February 2009 (EST)

open id

Do you know anything about this?cacahuate talk 18:58, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Layover in SIN city


LH/SQ changed my flight and therefore I now arrive with some buggers in early March at 6 AM in SIN. Do you have a tip for a nice breakfast place in town to chill a bit (nice view)? Thanks in advance and have a good time in Laos. jan 14:22, 18 February 2009 (EST)

Jani, i didn't expected to see you in Changi at 6 AM ;-) I stay from 7th March 6AM until 8th March afternoon in Singapore with mum & sis to meet Singapore National Parks @ Fort Canning Rise. They open from 9AM onwards and the sunrice restaurant their opens at the same time. A mixture of Western & Asian food would be great to get a taste and not always the same hotel breakfast sausages... If you are in town it would be great to have a drink in the evening. jan 05:10, 19 February 2009 (EST)


Please see my response at Talk:Hamamatsu. Thanks. Texugo 22:23, 19 February 2009 (EST)

shared:Multilingual statistics

Hello! The multilingual statistics on shared is not udated last friday. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 12:54, 1 March 2009 (EST)


Care to comment on this? Talk:Zhuhai#Photos_and_titles or whether it is now near guide, or DotM candidate? Pashley 23:38, 11 March 2009 (EDT)


Please do not remove changes that were already talked about. Look at the discussion page before you edit. the proposal to change the regions in israel was up for disccusion for over 2 weeks, and was also posted on the pub discussions to make sure no one objects to this change. As no one objected to update and improve this value, i see no reason to delete things. If you have any objections, please use the discussion page?

i'm sorry to say, but your behavior is a bit rude. the subject was brought up in a public disccussion on the ISRAEL value page, and also posted on the public disscussions. i asked for any objections. i cannot make people comment. no one objected for over a week, and therefore, i changed it. this is the way wiki works, people change and improve values, they do not need your personal consent, its ment for everyone to edit, as long as the information is true and valuable. and as i said, i've also posted it in public a long time before i edited, to make sure no problems like this will occur. if you had or have any problems with my edits, you could and can use the disscussion page. you did not, instead you simpley delete everything. you didn't bother to disscuss it with anyone but yourself and you didn't even had any objection to the actual text. i doubt thats considered working under the rules of wiki, and i doubt its contributing to the wikitravel. i ask you again to stop discouraging people from editing, especually after it was done properly.



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