My pleasure, Astrid: <email@example.com> since e-mail has been disabled for a long time on this site. --W. Franke-mailtalk 11:10, 5 July 2013 (EDT)
Thu Dau Mot
thanks for having a look at our page! I'm a teacher and my class created this page as a class project. It will be an ongoing project to correct grammar, facts, and writing, as well as a useful contribution to visitors of the town I'm currently living in!
Thank you for this message, Fasaya! The project sounds great! Do you need any help with editing? Did you think about uploading some pictures to the article?
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All the best, IBAlex (talk) 13:06, 1 August 2013 (EDT)
My Pleasure to your welcome to see my edit at Medan page. i try to put Medan Landmark picture so tourist will know and not get lost.
i will try put the best one.
Misahualli / touting
I reworked the page and hope it finds your "placet". Meanwhile I had a look at the touting-page and couldn't find any violation of the criteria given there. Before you eliminate information again, I'd appreciate a discussion on the discussion-page with references to the violated rules. However the general rule about avoiding 1st person was violated - although I feel that personal views should be clearly distinguished from objective facts :-(
Thanks for the notice. That's very strange, because as i remember the link should have been http://poseidonexpeditions.com
I'll fix it right now.
listings in NorthEast Pelion
Hi in regards to your message about the listings that i've made in the NorthEast Pelion region - Greece, the 2 hotels that i tried to list have the same website: http://www.gopelion.com. Which looks like a local info guide but its not. It's the actual webpage of Victoria Guest House & Ghermaniko Hotel.
Damouchari is not big but it has some history and if you want i can add it as well.
Ok i have changed it and added some information as well in the page! Thanks alot! Do you want me to add Damouchari at the region's (Northeast Pelio) page as well?
Unfortunately you reverted some good edits on the California page, commenting "Links to secundary sites are not allowed here, also no need to add all airline links in this article. If you have any questions, please let us know."
In my view, your reversion was in the face of our established policy, since we distinguish between primary links and SECONDARY links, but heck, what do I know, I've only been curating this site for seven years. 511.org is the OFFICIAL Metropolitan Transportation Commission website. See xl for our current policy! --W. Franke-mailtalk 09:03, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
Welcome back W. Frank, looks like you have been busy again. Looking again at those links, you are probably right, I saw two links both with the name 511.org, I was probably wrong in considering those as secundary sources. However, the first one is already mentioned on the San_Francisco page, so I would remove this one again, to avoid the same links on several pages. The second link would be more suited on the Los_Angeles page, as it mainly covers the Los Angeles Metroplex. Listing all the airlines makes the article look cluttered with links, while those airlines can be easily found by the traveler, but I will just bring that up as a discussion point, in order not to upset anyone unnecessary. Have a great afternoon!Adzas (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
I appreciate that with the amount of spam you are having to deal with you're bound to make a few slips. We do walk a tightrope with anon editors, though and the trick is to get them to register an account and to help fight spam. You've been kind enough to leave a message on the anon's user talk page, so it might be an idea to be ultra-conciliatory now and encourage them to register and continue to actively contribute. Your final arbiter should always be to consider what is helpful to the travelling reader, so it may often be entirely appropriate to have a link to an official public transport site on several different destination pages.
If the hyperlinks are properly formatted as frontlinks they are less obtrusive - but I realise that correction of formatting requires more time and effort than just hitting the revert button. Keep warm! --W. Franke-mailtalk 12:51, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
I was quite interested in your edit summary when you reverted me saying "his info does not belong here, this is Wikitravel, not the Economist". Which on-line style guide do you prefer we reference?
Even after 10 years of Wikitravel, there are still inevitably gaps in our own Manual of Style. Rather than leave inconsistent usage to develop within and between articles I suggested that any lacunae can be filled by reference to respected on-line Style Guides. I didn't suggest using Wikipedia, because it more often is in direct conflict with the style advice that we have developed here over the years.
This is the entry that I inserted that you reverted without providing what I would regard as a reasonable rationale:
One reason I picked "The Economist" is that it is available on-line without paying a subscription. Although it is written in the non-US variety of English that is used in more countries than the US variety (see EngVar) it is widely distributed and respected in the US, too.
Frank, please discuss first changes to the policy pages with the rest of the community and don't change things on your own. We would appreciate that. Thanks! IBAlex (talk) 13:17, 14 October 2013 (EDT)
I think we're going over old ground again here, Alex.
I think you realise that you were hired as an IBadmin, in a time of crisis, about 6 years after I started editing here.
Now you have as much right to change the rules about Consensus as anyone else here. But that should be done in one of two ways:
either by Internet Brands making an announcement as to what rules they wish to change
or by discussing the changes you wish in the usual way and then, if there is a consensus implementing them.
Until most of the community packed their bags and left, editors had always plunged forward with any policy changes they thought desirable. If nobody objected, the change became hallowed by time as a new consensual policy. If somebody objected, they reverted the edit (as Astrid has done with my MoS addition but then the objection needs to be explained rationally on the plicy article's discussion page (as Astrid or you or anyone else still has to do...). Out of that discussion the policy evolves. That's the wiki way. Now I realise that all IBadmins are very busy reverting spam and vandalism, but if you ever get the time it would be great if you actually took the time to read and understand some of our longstanding basic policy pages. --W. Franke-mailtalk 13:35, 14 October 2013 (EDT)
Frank, I hate to have to jump in here -- and I will make every effort to avoid engaging you with your circular arguments that we've admonished you for many times. But let me be very clear: you are not to make any changes to Wikitravel policy pages, period. This goes for templates as well. Stick to destination article contributions. If there is a policy or template change you're interested in discussing, you may raise the issue on the Pub. If you are engaged on the pub on a policy point, we may discuss it there. If not, we won't. But you are not to make unilateral changes. I am not interested in hearing your rationalizations or reading any evidence you feel supports your side of this. If you keep it up, your next suspension will be permanent. I hope that's not necessary. --IBobi (talk) 15:53, 14 October 2013 (EDT)
I want to interrupt. Another wiki has copied the entire articles from Wikitravel that i've contributed (referring to the main Karachi article). This way we will have to delete the entire articles from another wiki as well. I dont see this as any major issue as others will plunge these articles forward. Zoltrix
It is important to try to verify when the original writing was done; if we can verify (by using another wiki's timestamped history, for example) that the contribution was made elsewhere first, and therefore was then copied to Wikitravel, we need to remove the Wikitravel info. If it is not possible to determine where the info was first written, we need to leave the Wikitravel part where it is until and unless we receive a notice to take it down from the copyright holder. Otherwise we run the risk of removing content that was in fact actually first written at Wikitravel and subsequently copied to another site. before removing anything from Wikitravel, please endeavor to make this thorough check. --IBobi (talk) 15:39, 15 October 2013 (EDT)
From the timestamp in the article history it looks like Karachi/East Karachi and Malir was created first on the other wiki. Therefore, I will have to delete its content on Wikitravel. Zoltrix, I can leave the page just with an article template. Would you like to plunge forward and rewrite the information on your own. We would greatly appreciate that. I know that you have already helped us a lot with Karachi article and it looks like you're an expert here. Warm regards, IBAlex (talk) 16:00, 15 October 2013 (EDT)