I am a bit confused by the structure of this article. The following are listed as Other Destinations but all redirect back to this article:
Are they really articles or attractions within the scope of this article? I fear a body of water debate coming on :) --Burmesedays 11:20, 30 November 2009 (EST)
- I am confused as well. I am wanting to have seperate articles for Kentukcy Lake, Lake, Barkley and Land Between the Lakes as all three can have alot of content in their articles. The other reason for having seperate articles is that all three of these connect to KY and TN (US states). Sorry if I have created the confustion by starting to do edits without creating a user name. I have compiled alot of information that I would like to list but havent becasue I can figure out how to get redirects removed.
- It would be great to see content get filled out for these destinations—I suppose the question will be how to organize it. Land between the Lakes NRA should definitely have its own page, and perhaps it could also contain the information on Kentucky and Barley Lakes? In any rate, I'd personally be happy to see the information added on the three destinations in the form Kris thinks natural (since I'm guessing you are the only one here who really knows the area!), and then we can sort out how best to organize it by article. --Peter Talk 12:15, 30 November 2009 (EST)
- Pet thanks for the info. Im gong to start working on all this all week. I also own and operate a website KentuckyLake.com wich is a regional tourism website for the area so we have tones of information to put up. I am also tring to get all the area tourism orginazation to help out with this as well. Please let me know if you see me doing anything wrong. Im very new to wikitravel so it may not look great to the eye. I just didnt want to start getting alot of LBL and lake info on the waterland page and then have to move it later on. Also check us out on aboutus.org. We are tring to promote wikipedia and wikitravel where ever possible.
- Kris, I think you have made a good start with the article. And I think Peter's advice is defintely the right way to go. I cannot be too much help on the specifics as I do not know this part of the world at all, but I do have the following comments:
- If they have not already been removed I will edit the re-directs as it does seem that you have relevant content for all 3 articles. Please though do read Wikitravel:Bodies_of_water and be sure that these are valid articles in their own right and not just attractions. If the latter, then the re-directs can easily be reinstated later.
- Please understand that the WT policy on external links will probably not allow the listing of your own website. This does not preclude you from building an excellent article which promotes the region of course.
- If you need any guidance on formating, what goes where etc, please do not be afraid to ask. With your eat listings for example, you need to avoid using the first person and to change the tone a little - more informational/descriptive and a little less like a pushy ad. You will find this helpful guidance: Wikitravel:Manual_of_style#Writing_style --Burmesedays 04:57, 1 December 2009 (EST)
- Hmmm, I might have been a bit tired or something, but the cities seemed to be duplicate, so I thought it was all different names for the same region, and redirects would be more appropriate than having the same content 3 times over. If that was premature, I apologize. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 08:05, 1 December 2009 (EST)
As stated above and here, external links to non-official sites and non-primary tourism/hotel/booking sites are not allowed at WikiTravel and will be removed. --Burmesedays 10:41, 1 December 2009 (EST)
Can you please clarify what links you are talking about and i will remove them. All the links that I know of are official sites. If they are please let me know. I dont want to make anyones job hard. Also can some one help me how to do a redirect for articles. Their are several cities that need redirect. Example Gilbertsville need to be Benton / Gilbertsville. And Kuttawa and Eddyville need to be redirected to Kuttawa / Eddyville. Decemebr 1 2009
- It might just be me, but do official US local govt sites have real estate ads and hotel booking engines on them? Maybe they do. To set up a redirect use the redirect code under Wiki Markup at the bottom of every edit screen: #REDIRECT []. Insert the re-direct location in the brackets. Put that code as the first line of any page you want to re-direct. Also to sign your name on your posts on a talk page just hit the signature button (1 from the far right on the tool bar at the top of any edit screen). --Burmesedays 11:09, 1 December 2009 (EST)
I have a location question. Lake Barkley is part of Western Waterlands in KY and Middle Tennessee TN. Is their a way for it to be both? 18.104.22.168 14:29, 1 December 2009 (EST)
- Heh, for a variety of reasons, organizing content for this region will be tricky. So lets try and figure it out so you can get to adding content without any more hassle.
- I take it you see the tourism here in terms of Kentucky Lake, Lake Barkley, and Land between the Lakes NRA, right? That's the impression I've got from looking at tourism sites. The NRA already has its own page, and that's uncontroversial. For the two lakes, there are three basic ways to handle them:
- Create an article for each lake, and then use that like an overview region page, with links to individual towns along the banks, and then put all the individual hotel, restaurant, etc. listings into the town articles.
- Create an article for each lake, and then avoid creating pages for the towns altogether, and just put all the relevant hotels, restaurants, etc. on the two lake pages.
- Don't create articles for each lake, but rather put overview information on them in the Western Waterlands article, and create individual town pages for the towns/municipalities along the lakes, in each of which we'll put the information on watersports and other activities available right from that town.
- Which sounds to you like it will be a more effective way of presenting this information? --Peter Talk 15:14, 1 December 2009 (EST)
Peter let me think about that. Do you have a suggestion of which would be easier? Do you have any examples of other pages that have this issue. Off the top of my head I think option one is the best. Please let me know your thoughts.22.214.171.124 23:08, 1 December 2009 (EST)
- The question is mostly one of how much information there is, and how it is concentrated. #1 and #3 are best for larger lakes, which have many towns that could support full travel articles (with all the see, do, eat, sleep, etc. sections filled out). #2 is best for relatively sparsely populated and smaller lakes, where the various tiny municipalities would not sustain good travel articles on an individual basis, and the total amount of listings wouldn't overwhelm one article. So basically it depends on how big and crowded each lake is, and I'm sure you'd be a better judge of that than I would, since I've never been to Western Kentucky!
- I just created that map & the regions pages, and was both intrigued about the travel opportunities for the lakes region, and worried about how hard it would be to cover it well in the Wikitravel format! I figured I'd leave it alone until someone knowledgeable came along ;) Lastly, if we try something and it doesn't work out well, we can always reorganize in the future. --Peter Talk 23:22, 1 December 2009 (EST)
- Lets go with option #1. I think that will work best. To me the issue lies in that Kentucky Lake, Lake Barkley are both very large lakes. LBL is also very large and all three cover several counties, towns and states so I think that #1 will work out best. I hopefully will ahave alot more info posted today since both lake articles are now posted.126.96.36.199 10:19, 2 December 2009 (EST)
- I have another question. One the cities area. Benton is a city in Kentucky. How do I link the word Benton to Benton KY article.188.8.131.52 11:43, 2 December 2009 (EST)
- I'm not entirely sure what you mean? --Peter Talk 02:31, 3 December 2009 (EST)
Why does Kentucky Lake keep getting brought back and redirected to Western Waterlands?184.108.40.206 14:46, 4 December 2009 (EST)