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For future reference the [[Wikitravel:CIA World Factbook 2002 import]] can be found at [[Talk:Ukraine/CIA World Factbook 2002 import]].
 
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== Regions and Cities Names - Alternative Spellings ==
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I noticed that one anonymous user made a spelling change orphaned [[Doneck]] and someone else then put it back, duplicating the city in the list. I fear the next thing to happen is that another person will write a second article about the same place and decide it isn't in the list at all so add a third spelling alternative. I do not want to be a revisionist historian, going around and changing all the new names back into the old ones (or vice versa), making a complete idiot of myself and offending the culturally (in)sensitive, so some suggestions are needed about what the cities and regions should (and could) be called before things go too far.
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I have already identified the following alternative spellings for several of the Ukrainian cities and regions, such as:
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*[[Kiev]] can also be spelt either informally as ''Kyiv'' or more formally as ''Kyyiv''
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*[[Doneck]] is apparently the soviet era name for the city named [[Donetsk]] or [[Donets'k]], while the surrounding region is probably called [[Donets'ka (Oblast)]].
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*[[Odessa]] or [[Odesa]], depending on who you believe. (Personally I think 2 ''s''es is more traditional while 1 ''s'' is more recent.)
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*[[Sevastopol]], has also been known historically as [[Sebastopol]] from before the Crimean war...
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Also most of the regions are named after their main cities.
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Can we please reach a consensus on the regional and city names? Even the CIA and other authorities appear confused on this subject and at odds with the Google popularity contest. I feel I need to make arbitrary decision and would prefer not to do so. I would welcome some input from others. -- [[User:Huttite|Huttite]] 19:51, 21 Jan 2005 (EST)

Revision as of 00:55, 22 January 2005

For future reference the Wikitravel:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Ukraine/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.


Regions and Cities Names - Alternative Spellings

I noticed that one anonymous user made a spelling change orphaned Doneck and someone else then put it back, duplicating the city in the list. I fear the next thing to happen is that another person will write a second article about the same place and decide it isn't in the list at all so add a third spelling alternative. I do not want to be a revisionist historian, going around and changing all the new names back into the old ones (or vice versa), making a complete idiot of myself and offending the culturally (in)sensitive, so some suggestions are needed about what the cities and regions should (and could) be called before things go too far.

I have already identified the following alternative spellings for several of the Ukrainian cities and regions, such as:

  • Kiev can also be spelt either informally as Kyiv or more formally as Kyyiv
  • Doneck is apparently the soviet era name for the city named Donetsk or Donets'k, while the surrounding region is probably called Donets'ka (Oblast).
  • Odessa or Odesa, depending on who you believe. (Personally I think 2 ses is more traditional while 1 s is more recent.)
  • Sevastopol, has also been known historically as Sebastopol from before the Crimean war...

Also most of the regions are named after their main cities. Can we please reach a consensus on the regional and city names? Even the CIA and other authorities appear confused on this subject and at odds with the Google popularity contest. I feel I need to make arbitrary decision and would prefer not to do so. I would welcome some input from others. -- Huttite 19:51, 21 Jan 2005 (EST)

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