Difference between revisions of "Talk:Travelling with children"
Revision as of 00:29, 12 February 2009
Err, I know this is just a start, but this is making me think of Wikitravel:Slippery slopes . We really want to avoid lists, can this be turned into more of an article? Maybe some intro text on the issue, and then sections for different types of family travel issues? We need to better define the whole Travel topics area, but this might be a good test case...Majnoona
Re: Although a 5 year old child may be able to travel across town, to and from school, on a bus or commuter train, such short routine trips are relatively low risk, with the child's absence or non-arrival at their destination likely to be noticed promptly.
Maybe I should go live in New Zealand, because here in Belgium I wouldn't let a 5 year old take public transport alone, even if it would be a known route. Actually, these days I have never seen one do it. In my eyes, the parents would be extremely irresponsible. And, seriously, I wouldn't let them do it in New Zealand either... Akubra 15:33, 2 Apr 2004 (EST)
Some more things that families might like to do, and that children enjoy, would be a good addition to this article. At the moment it's too strongly focussed on "children don't like X", "X may forbid children" and so on. Hypatia 08:49, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
I think this article needs a real once over before it can be useful. I'm not sure the current template really works for it either. I'm going to leave it all together for now, but I really think we're going to need to split it out into several other articles. We could go for general travel by age articles (i.e. Travel with infants, Travel with teenagers) or even more fine-grained (Flying with infants, Roadtrips with infants, etc). Thoughs? 188.8.131.52 16:46, 10 December 2006 (EST)
Things you shouldn't do that you do...
How should we deal with "unsafe but practical" things such as children riding in taxis without a car seat? It's dangerous and bad and wrong, but if you're travelling outside of the US, you're probably going to end up doing it at some point. There are suggestions for what to do-- strap the child into their own seatbelt for example, but that's not really safe, so I'm not sure what to say. I've compromised by at least warning people not to share a seatbelt with a child as I know that's super dangerous, but do we want to say anything more? Advice from others who've travelled with kids would be helpful. Thanks Maj 01:31, 11 December 2006 (EST)
Shouldn't that be "travelling with children" or "traveling as a family" or something? The current title sounds like traveling with your grandparents and your in-laws... Jpatokal 10:08, 21 December 2006 (EST)
Travelling without both parents
The article currently contains this advice:
Many countries require that visiting children who aren't accompanied by both their mother and father carry documentation to the effect that all legal guardians agree to the child's travel plans. This may apply even when the accompanying adult and the child are citizens of the country they are travelling to. Be sure to check with an embassy of the country you intend to visit if you are taking any children on an international holiday without both their parents. Legal guardians who are not the parents of the child may need documentation demonstrating their relationship to, and responsibility for, the child, and a parent travelling alone may need either proof of custody or written authorization from the other parent.
This just seems to me to be wrong. I've never known of this to happen, or to be required. If anybody knows of a country where this is the case, please let me know, otherwise I'll just delete it. What form would written authorisation take, if indeed it was required? --Inas 23:31, 21 December 2008 (EST)
When travelling outside of Australia, proper identification includes, but is not limited to, a valid passport for a child. The following are examples of additional documents that you may be asked to provide documentary evidence or letter that proves the child has the permission of an absent lawful parent(s) or guardian to travel... a court order granting you guardianship of the child... a copy of the child’s birth certificate, particularly if only one parent’s name appears on the birth certificate, and the child is travelling with the other parent." Hypatia 19:25, 11 February 2009 (EST)
Anecdotally only, I have heard that parents (usually mothers who have kept their maiden name, but would also apply to non-parent guardians) have been questioned at borders regarding their relationship with the child they're travelling with. I don't know how such situations are usually resolved though. Hypatia 19:10, 11 February 2009 (EST)
In addition to the above, I am yet to ever encounter a family check-in line, or a family immigration line. Mostly parents and small children are allowed pre-boarding, but if family check-in queues still exist anywhere, they must be very rare. I'll consider also removing this unless someone has knowledge that these things actually still exist. --Inas 17:35, 22 December 2008 (EST)
Parents vs guardians vs caretakers
Do we want to make more effort in this article to be inclusive of non-parents travelling with children? Two scenarios spring to mind: relatives (grandparents etc) travelling with children and also non-parent guardians. (Genuine question, not rhetorical: do we want to make any effort to do this?) Hypatia 19:13, 11 February 2009 (EST)