I moved most of the info from Golden Gate Bridge to here, and tried making it a little bulleted attraction, but it kept getting too big. So then I just made it a subsection of "See". I don't think the GGBridge should have its own article -- see Wikitravel:What is an article? -- but I also didn't think it was small enough for a bullet point. Comments? -- Evan 13:53, 4 Nov 2003 (PST)
IMHO Caltran should actually be under Get In, the reason being that it runs between S.F. and the airport. Of course it also goes to Silicon Valley, but who would "Get Out" of S.F. to go there, unless it's for a job, in which case the worker doesn't probably need wikitravel.. ;) -- Mark 05:51, 12 Dec 2003 (PST)
Evan, didn't you notice that "BARTing dogs don't bike" is a joke? It should go to BJAODN. -phma 22:52, 13 Dec 2003 (PST)
- You are sooooo begging for someone to acknowledge that joke, aren't you? Yes, it cracked me up. Then again, I have a terrible sense of humor.
- On a more serious note, not only don't we not yet have a Wikitravel:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense, but... I'm wondering if we need it! I don't know if humor is as much out of place in a travel guide as it would be in, say, an encyclopedia (just to pull an example out of the air).
- I guess I just wonder if the tone of a travel guide doesn't allow for a little more flexibility on these matters. Then again, again, maybe we would still need a BJAODN for this joke in particular. --Evan 07:12, 14 Dec 2003 (PST)
- What about "Coke: imbuvable" in the French phrasebook? I don't find that funny, it'd hinder anyone trying to get a Coke in France, and it should be taken away in a hovercraft full of eels. -phma 07:20, 14 Dec 2003 (PST)
- Checking around, I found another: "sarong wrap". I like it. I think the jokes should stay. -phma 07:42, 14 Dec 2003 (PST)
- Have you read Walnut Creek? It's very funny.
- So, I figure (once again, trying to make a rule for everything) that jokes should be with the traveler, not on the traveler (the traveller comes first). Our goal is not to make a knock-knock joke book, of course, but there's no reason all our prose has to be bone-dry and boring. Jokes and humor probably shouldn't get in the way of people who need information, and they shouldn't be the principle part of a guide, but I think that a light tone may be just fine. --Evan 07:54, 14 Dec 2003 (PST)
I removed "nosey" from the description of smoking as it is not in keeping with the neutrality of Wikitravel. Perhaps there is another word that is neutral. Also, one can argue whether it actually is nosy, as the concern is typically about the health or comfort of the complainant, not the smoker. Notty 14:48, Feb 7, 2004 (EST)