Difference between revisions of "Talk:Prague"
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Prague working Group
I've got 3 other volunteers who are going to be working with me on the Prague article. We'll be having our first meeting at The Globe on Tues Aug 16th at 1:30. Anybody else is welcome to join us. If you want to find us have a look at my page and then look for a similar face at the Cafe. Hopefully the Prague article will improve shortly. Aburda 03:32, 14 Aug 2005 (EDT)
First Thoughts by Aaron
Districts - We should get rid of using the Prague numbers, use the older region names instead and only add regions that we have good content for
(Not a comprehensive list, add more or remove if you think we should)
Does anybody have any drawing skills? We need a map (and we can't use any existing maps for copyright reasons). Just something simple that is kind of a copy of the metro map). It would have to be done in photoshop or something similar.
See - Most of this stuff will be moved under the District articles, anybody have any ideas as to what attractions should be put here and not under the Distric pages? i.e. do we want to have a blank 'see' section on the main page and have all content under the Districts or are there somethings (the clock, bridge, etc.) that are to universal for Prague to be put in a district?
Eat - Section totally sucks, need a better description of foods on the main page and under the Distric pages (to be created) specific restaurants (with links to mapy.cz).
Do - Pretty weak description of all of the things to do in Prague, this section on the main page (IMHO) should contain lots of information as things like Ultimate Frisbee, etc. should not be put into a specific district (even if the training may take place there). On the other hand, dancing at 'The country club' would seem to definitely belong in 'Haje'
Sleep - totally sucks we need specific info for:
Just my thoughts, in no way comprehensive, let me know what you think. BTW, if you want add a comment, at the end of the comment, to sign your name put for tildes (~) in a row and it automatically adds your name and the date and time. Aburda 04:52, 17 Aug 2005 (EDT)
Origin of material
It seems painfully obvious that the information added by the first anonymous contributor was copied verbatim from a book or an online source, most likely without the permission of the copyright holder. That contribution still forms the bulk of the contents of this page. Thus, it makes sense that it is removed. Dpol 19:28, 7 Jul 2004 (EDT)
I would like to take over the the Prague article but would like to find somebody to collaborate with on it, or at least to give me a bit of advice. All of my other articles have been just putting everything in my head down on paper, I'ld like to make this one a bit more professional. I'm in Prague and have the next month free (and can speak Czech) so its just a question of figuring out what information I should gather around the city and what needs to be cleaned up. If anybody is interested in cooperating email or skype me (info on my page). Aburda 07:27, 2 Aug 2005 (EDT)
wow! this is a lot of great information! Maybe it should be organized into on of the Wikitravel:City article templates.
I removed the following paragraphs from the article because they're not relevant to travel. Put them back if you think they belong... KJ 21:47, 8 Sep 2003 (PDT)
Czech artists, writers and poets:
Franz Kafka, Jaroslav Hasek, Dvorak, Smetana, Milos Forman, Josef Skvorecky, Milan Kundera, Vaclav Havel, the anonymous Czech Gothic painter known as the Master of the Vyssi Brod altar, Baroque artists Christopher and Killian Ignaz Dientzenhofer as well as Giovanni Santini, Gothic architect Petr Parler, Karel Capek, Viteslav Nezval, Jaroslav Seifert, Bohumil Hrabal, Bozena Nemcova, Karel Hynek Macha, S.K. Neumann, Jan Neruda and Ivan Klima.
Metamorphosis, The Castle, The Good Soldier Schweik, The Bartered Bride (opera), The Unbearable Lightness of Being, The Engineer of Human Souls, Letters to Olga, Grandmother, R.U.R. (the word 'robot' was used for the first time in R.U.R!)
[Removed by Hypatia 12:09, 7 Nov 2004 (EST)]
Depending on the sect, Hussites could be incredibly radical and forward-thinking for their time. Some sects, such as the Taborites, named after the town of Tabor where they lived, even advocated communal property, free love and the abolition of marriage! No wonder they got into such trouble. Hussitism threatened the Catholic status quo and for a time, Catholic rulers around Europe feared the Hussites almost as much as the Turks. The difference was that the Hussites were an "enemy from within." It was visually easy to tell a Turk from a Western European but not so the Hussites. Though their religious beliefs were similar to those of fellow Protestant Lutherans, for the Hussites religion became important as a national rallying cry against foreign (read: Catholic) oppression. This was the first time the Czechs chose to take a stand against those who wanted to enforce cultural values on them. The end result was the Battle of Bila Hora (see section on Hvezda above) and years of Catholic domination that was more thoroughly enforced here than elsewhere as a means of rooting out what the rulers saw as heresy and the Czechs viewed as freedom.
[Removed by Hypatia 14:27, 7 Nov 2004 (EST)]
In 1580 Rabbi Loew, a scholar whose knowledge of the esoteric Kabbala interpretations of Hebrew scriptures was matched only by his leadership skills, decided the Jewish ghetto needed a protector who could be vigilant around the clock. These were dangerous times - the non-Jewish community believed Jews kidnapped and murdered Christian babies for use in their religious ceremonies, and accusations had reached a fevered pitch. The good rabbi decided to make a human-like figure from Vltava River mud which, Frankenstein-like, could be brought to life. Instead of the stereotypical lightning-bolt mad scientist laboratory scenario, the Golem was brought to life with a slip of paper in its mouth, on which a magic formula was written. One Sabbath Rabbi Loew forgot to deactivate the Golem and the monster went crazy, destroying the house and half the ghetto before his 'parent' got home in time to deactivate him.
This is probably one source of the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" story, popularised by Walt Disney in Fantasia
Photos under by-sa
Not sure if this is the place to post this, but: if anyone wants photographs of Prague (and nearby areas), my brother recently took a trip there. About 500 photographs are available at http://www.vu.union.edu/~stodolan/prague_web/ under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike license (or the GFDL). No model releases have been obtained, and some of the photos may be of copyrighted material (street posters, signs, etc.), so stay away from questionable material. Luke Stodola
I'm going to start splitting Prague into districts, starting with Praha 1: Old Town, New Town, Lesser Town, Jewish Town, and Castle. I'm not using the Czech names for them since the tour guides largely don't.
I'm not doing the other numbered districts at the moment, but they can be added in future, I presume -- Hypatia 11:11, 7 Nov 2004 (EST)
There's a really good list of attractions by quarter at http://www.prague.cz/prague-sights.asp -- Hypatia 12:11, 7 Nov 2004 (EST) Sleep - ads Why were the following paragrpahs removed? Are they against some policy (ads?)? --Prokonsul Piotrus
Jeruzalemska apartments, Jeruzalemska street (office address: Africká 16/616, 160 00 Praha 6). ph 0602 210 716. fax 0602 673 858. email firstname.lastname@example.org. Prices for these apartments for two people range from €65 (Christmas, Easter and August), €55 (April - July, September - October), €45 (other) per night for a single room in a shared apartment to €150 (Christmas, Easter and August), €130 (April - July, September - October) and €110 (other) for a large apartment. Wireless broadband is available in the private apartments for €4 per day. http://www.accommodation-dasha.cz/ + Mid-range accomodation can be found in most of the Praha 1 quarters: check in particular the east bank: Jewish Town, Old Town and New Town. Prague Room Apartments. email email@example.com. Reviews describe these apartments as excellent accommodation for the price. The Prague Room rooms and accommodation are very close to the city center and five minutes from the tram stop. Prices for two people range from €37 per night in summer and €28 per night in winter for the smallest rooms to €87 per night in summer and €64 per night in winter for a luxury self contained apartment. http://www.pragueroom.com/ Those look like perfectly appropriate sleep listings to me (we have listings, not ads). I think they should probably go onto the correct district page. -- Mark 08:39, 10 Nov 2004 (EST) They weren't removed, they were simply moved to district pages: look in Prague/New Town for the first one and Prague/Lesser Town for the second. Hypatia 09:59, 18 Dec 2004 (EST
18.104.22.168 removed the walking tour chunk of the page on an 18th December edit, with the message "- advertising". This doesn't make sense to me. We provide contact details for commercial services for travellers. That's what being a travel guide is about. In this case, we're providing details of a commercial provider of walking tours.
I was the one who added those particular walking tours. I have no association with the company. I'm happy to see them removed for any of a number of reasons (they're really bad, they've gone out of business, whatever). I'm happy to see competitors listed, and for the existing entry to be shortened. But I don't understand how it's an ad, or at least any more of an ad than any other listing that provides contact details for a travel-related service. I've reverted the edit for now. Hypatia 09:59, 18 Dec 2004 (EST)
I'm not a big fan of the understand section. I think the whole thing about foreigners is not really appropriate. We're trying to understand Czech's not the role of the expat community in Prague. There is no group that likes to complain more about itself (IMHO) than the expat community in Prague does. If the info is important it should get a subheading somewhere towards the bottom of Understand but even then it should probably be done more neutrally. The expat community has a lot of negatives about it but like any minority in a society also plays a valuable role. So request for comment, if I don't hear anything I'll modifty it. Aburda 18:02, 4 Jul 2005 (EDT)
I removed the links to the minor attractions (in the "See" section), as each one deserves to be expounded upon in this article, but none deserve their own stand-alone article. I don't mind adding some background and history to many of the locations, but it will have to wait until I finish my clean-ups of Jerusalem and Jerusalem/Old City. - Cybjorg 02:01, 5 May 2006 (EDT)
Anybody having any idea what the suggestion "...or just go to Hlavni Nadrazi (main train station) and take a private sleeping place with a person you find trustworthy (price will be approx the same)..." in the "Budget" sleeping section means? Is it meant seriously? Hlavni Nadrazi is known for its abundance of various suspicious characters and only the very adventurous (and desperate) people should try that. I suggest removing that part of the sentence. 22.214.171.124 15:19, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
Does anyone know what the stardard format for Czech addresses is? I took a (preliminary) stab at cleaning up the sleep listings but the order seems to differ throughout the article and on external pages. Also, it's been so long since I was in Prague that I'm more than a little fuzzy on the districts. If I edit the sleep listings from the main Prague page, can someone with more local knowledge please move them into the correct districts? Thanks Thewayoftheduck 03:10, 19 July 2006 (EDT)
Pasted from my talk page: "I believe Czech addresses are written in this manner: Place, Street 334, Praha 12, Telephone, etc., etc. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 03:17, 19 July 2006 (EDT)" Thewayoftheduck 02:27, 20 July 2006 (EDT)
Tourist trap section
Does this belong in Understand or in some combination of Stay safe, Stay healthy and Cope? Hypatia 23:04, 24 July 2006 (EDT)