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Taking kidneys?!?

somebody better fix the article at stay safe sections

I moved the CIA factbook stuff to Talk:Philippines/CIA World Factbook 2002 import. --Evan 15:24, 5 Mar 2004 (EST)

Some corrections

I added some corrections in the article.61.9.74.230 14:51, 23 September 2006 (EDT) haha, wala lang!!

Manila a safe city?!

I was wondering why Manila is considered one of the safest cities in SE Asia, in the wiki entry? Doesn't Manila and its suburbs have the highest crime rate in the Philippines? For some rates, look at: http://www.bworld.com.ph/Research/economicindicators.php?id=0075


re:we got more police deployed in Manila than our troops fighting in Mindanao —The preceding comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talkcontribs) .


credit card acceptance

Does the Philippines accept credit cards issued by foreign banks? I read somewhere that when a merchant puts up a sign that VISA cards are accepted, it could refer to Philippine-issued VISA cards plus in the Philippines, a merchant's POS is usually provided by a bank (usually Equitable) and the bank's logo is printed on the charge slip. --124.106.134.220 20:29, 6 January 2007 (EST)


RE: What? do you think the Philippines some kind of an african country, of course we accept all major credit card, check and COD. —The preceding comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talkcontribs) .


Age of consent

I did a bit of Googling myself for the age of consent, and there seems to be a fair bit of confusion as to whether it's 12 or 18 — I wouldn't be surprised if the laws have changed. But even if the legal limit is 12, realistically speaking it's pretty unlikely that a tourist would be able to pass the "no gain, no coercion" test... Jpatokal 00:40, 8 January 2007 (EST)

Yeah, I got the numbers while looking browsing WikiPedia:Age of Consent which referred me to Interpol. It's a pretty serious deviation. And yeah, even if it's 12 the coercion test ain't passable. But then again, any country which puts the age at 12 must be thinking it's possible for that to happen uncoerced. -- Colin 00:54, 8 January 2007 (EST)

I am just wondeing if colin and your friend are paedos think its a bit sick checking the age of consent then openly debating whether it is 12 or not and sussing out the age of coercian test. I think you will find that most countries have a an objective test which you would both fail

That's because you're not paying attention. We aren't discussing how we think things should be. We are discussing how things are. And that includes reporting that a person's home country may prosecute even when the local country doesn't. -- Colin 01:32, 3 February 2007 (EST)

Well I am paying attention. Clearly I did not metion "should be" in my comment nor did you and as an english teacher am pretty familiar with the modal verbs. I think you actually stated "but then again..."therefore you are blatently looking into the finer details of the law and any lacunas exist.

It's 18. Where ever did you get the idea that it could be 12? Rubybox 01:38, 6 March 2007 (EST)
Jpatokal said "I did a bit of Googling... and there seems to be a fair bit of confusion", so I'm guessing it's a common misunderstanding. -- Colin 03:08, 6 March 2007 (EST)
I read the article on interpol too. It says everywhere that 18 is the legal age and the age of consent. It mentions that any violators of the child abuse and prostitution act (RA 7610) will be punished for the crime of rape, under the Revised Penal Code Art. 335), if the child involved is 12 and under. Where's the ambiguity in that? Rubybox 03:26, 6 March 2007 (EST)
http://www.google.com/search?q=age.of.consent+philippines+12 But the article has now said 18 for several months and this is apparently still correct, so what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Jpatokal 03:50, 6 March 2007 (EST)
What I'm trying to accomplish is to clear up the confusion. It's 18, not 12. And that is exactly what it says on the interpol article, and any other official (read as: from Philippine government) document you would find. Rubybox 04:03, 6 March 2007 (EST)
If you're an English teacher, you might want to brush up on your capitalization and spelling. I did not mention "should be" because I wasn't talking about what should be. Similarly, I didn't mention the average height of Martians since I wasn't talking about the average height of Martians. Are there any other things you feel I left out merely because I wasn't talking about them? -- Colin 03:08, 6 March 2007 (EST)
The Government has made several changes to the age of consent laws in the last 18 months due to International and community concerns.

The change that may be of interest to foreign tourists is the updated change to the anti-human trafficking act that now states there is no age of consent for anyone trafficked into prostitution. So under the new laws, everyone is classified as a child if they are trafficked into prostitution. The law advocates terms of life in prison.

regions / cities / other destinations

I hacked these sections down since we don't need a link to every destination in the country on the front page. I think just the high-level regions need to be listed (descriptions could be expanded), only 9 cities should be listed, including the capital (per policy), and "other destinations" only needs some highlights. It looks like whoever created most of the articles and regions and sub-regions did a good job of listing everything on those pages too, so I think everything I removed from the Philippines page is still on one of the sub-pages.

We still need to remove 3 more cities to get it down to 9, but I'll leave that to someone who knows the place - for now I just left the 12 that had articles created for them or that I recognized. Same with other destinations, I cut it down to just the ones that had articles created already... but feel free to add/delete if you know better.

Here's the version before I got out the chainsaw, for future reference. ::: Cacahuate 06:44, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Travel to Cagayan de Oro

I'm interested in the least expensive way to travel from ~Harrisburg, PA to Cagayan de Oro. I have flexibility of travel times & I can use Phil, Wash, Balt, or even NYC airports. Any suggestions?


Region organization

I'm going to revert this section back to an earlier version with simple region delineation and descriptions, as per our geographical hierarchy policy. However, I think that many of the region articles are somewhat undeveloped and could make use of a lot of the short descriptions added (with good intentions) by user Pamexz, so I'm going to stick the superfluous info here on the discussion page, to be moved to individual region articles when someone has time. Texugo 23:47, 7 October 2007 (EDT)

Regions

The three main groups of islands of the Philippines are Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao. Each island group are subdivided into regions and provinces, with its own capital. Below are geographical subdivisions with brief descriptions.

  • Luzon – the northernmost island group, center of government, history and economy and home to the capital

National Capital Region (NCR) - found in the southern part of the island and is where the seat of administration is located. There are no provinces comprising the NCR, only cities.

  • Manila City - the country's capital city and home to the President's official residence, the Malacañang Palace.
  • Quezon City - the country's former capital and is considered the most populous.
  • Caloocan City - where the Bonifacio Monument is located
  • Pasay City
  • Makati City - the country's financial and commercial center
  • Mandaluyong City - location of the EDSA Shrine and several big retail establishments
  • Marikina City - considered as the Shoe Capital of the Philippines
  • Valenzuela City - location of the San Miguel Brewery, producer of San Miguel Beer (the country's most distributed beer)
  • Muntinlupa City - where homes of the rich and famous Filipinos are found
  • Parañaque City - location of the famous Baclaran Church
  • Las Piñas City - home of the world famous Bamboo Organ
  • Malabon City - coastal city in the northern part of NCR
  • Navotas - a fishing municipality
  • Taguig City - a mostly residential city
  • Pateros - famous for its balut or duck's egg delicacy
  • San Juan - a municipality that comes alive during the feast of St. John the Baptist, it's patron

Region 1 - Ilocos Region

Region II - Cagayan Valley

Region III - Central Luzon

  • Bulacan - capital Malolos; rich in history and heritage
  • Nueva Ecija - capital Palayan City; known as the Rice Bowl of the Philippines
  • Pampanga - capital San Fernando City; known as the Culinary Center of the Philippines
  • Tarlac - capital Tarlac City; location of vast sugar and rice plantations
  • Zambales - capital Iba; full of black sand beaches and wreck diving sites
  • Bataan - capital Balanga City; site of several World War II markers
  • Aurora - capital Baler; known for pristine beaches and waterfalls

Region IVa - Calabarzon

  • Cavite - capital Trece Martires; full of historical sites, including the island of Corregidor
  • Laguna - capital Santa Cruz; famous for its Pagsanjan Falls and Mount Makiling
  • Batangas - capital Batangas City; location of beautiful Anilao beaches and Taal Lake and Volcano
  • Rizal - capital Antipolo City; known as the Cradle of Philippine Art
  • Quezon - capital Lucena City; famous for its Pahiyas Festival

Region IVb - Mimaropa

  • Occidental Mindoro - capital Mamburao; home of the Apo Reef National Park, a world-class diving site
  • Oriental Mindoro - capital Calapan City; known for white beaches and coral reefs
  • Romblon - capital Romblon; recognized as the Marble Capital of the Philippines
  • Palawan - capital Puerto Princesa City; site of several wildlife sanctuaries and marine parks

Region V - Bicol Region

  • Camarines Norte - capital Daet; main producer of coconuts and pineapples
  • Camarines Sur - capital Pili; famous for numerous small islands with beautiful beaches
  • Catanduanes - capital Virac; known for the Puraran surfing spot
  • Masbate - capital Masbate City; location of the Bat-ongan series of caves
  • Sorsogon - capital Sorsogon City; famous for marine resources and whaleshark interactions
  • Albay - capital Legazpi City; location of the Mayon Volcano and the Cagsawa Ruins

Cordillera Administrative Region

  • Abra - capital Bangued; rich in ethnic and cultural heritage
  • Benguet - capital La Trinidad; home of the Kabayan Mummies
  • Kalinga - capital Tabuk; known for whitewater rafting at the Chico River
  • Apayao - capital Kabugao; site of several pristine bodies of water teeming with marine life
  • Mountain Province - capital Bontoc; famous for the Hanging Coffins site and the Sagada Caves
  • Ifugao - capital Lagawe; location of the world-famous Banawe Rice Terraces
  • Visayas – the central island group, heart of the country’s antiquity, nature and biodiversity

Region VI - Western Visayas

  • Capiz - capital Roxas City; known as the Seafood Capital of the Philippines
  • Iloilo - capital Iloilo City; site of several centuries-old churches and houses
  • Negros Occidental - capital Bacolod City; known for several sugar mills and plantations
  • Guimaras - capital Jordan; source of export-quality mangoes
  • Aklan - capital Kalibo; site of the Ati-Atihan Festival and the white beaches of Boracay Island
  • Antique - capital San Jose; full of eco-tourism destinations

Region VII - Central Visayas

  • Bohol - capital Tagbilaran City; location of the world-famous Chocolate Hills
  • Cebu - capital Cebu City; site of the Sinulog Festival and location of several white beaches
  • Negros Oriental - capital Dumaguete City; known for dolphin and whale watching and location of the Apo Island dive site
  • Siquijor - capital Siquijor; the whole island was declared a marine reserve and tourist zone and is rich with folk and lore history

Region VIII - Eastern Visayas

  • Eastern Samar - capital Borongan; the province is abundant with naturan marine resources and beautiful beaches
  • Leyte - capital Tacloban City; site of the Pintados Festival
  • Northern Samar - capital Catarman; famous for whale watching and sea kayaking
  • Samar - capital Catbalogan; location of the Calbiga Cave, with the country's biggest karst formation
  • Southern Leyte - capital Maasin City; location of the Sun-ok Fish Sanctuary
  • Biliran - capital Naval; location of the Tomalistis Falls, source of sweet-tasting water touted with healing power
  • Mindanao – the southernmost island group showcase Philippines’ indigenous and rich culture

Region IX - Zamboanga Peninsula

  • Zamboanga del Norte - capital Dipolog City; known for the Dakak Beach with powdery white sand
  • Zamboanga del Sur - capital Pagadian City; location of beautiful mountain resorts and lakes
  • Zamboanga Sibugay - capital Ipil; known for its seasnake sanctuary and huge oysters

Region X - Northern Mindanao

  • Bukidnon - capital Malaybalay City; source of export-quality pineapples
  • Camiguin - capital Mambajao; famous for old ancestral homes and historic churches
  • Misamis Occidental - capital Oroquieta City; source of export-quality seafood
  • Misamis Oriental - capital Cagayan de Oro City; location of several beautiful beaches, caves, and other eco-tourism destinations
  • Lanao del Norte - capital Tubod; site of several festivities, including the Sagayan, Sagingan (Banana), and Alimango (Crab) Festivals

Region XI - Davao Region

  • Davao del Norte - capital Tagum City; where the Samal Island and several tribal communities is located
  • Davao del Sur - capital Digos City; location of white sand beaches and the Pearl Farm Resort
  • Davao Oriental - capital Mati; this province boasts of several waterfalls and white sand beaches
  • Compostela Valley - capital Nabunturan; plenty of opportunities for mountain climbing, trekking, and spelunking.

Region XII - Soccsksargen

  • South Cotabato - capital Koronadal City; home to the highland tribe of T'bolis
  • Cotabato - capital Kidapawan City; location of Mount Apo, the country's highest peak
  • Sultan Kudarat - capital Isulan; site of Kalimudan Festival
  • Saranggani - capital Alabel; site of several archeological excavations and major source of aquaculture products

Region XIII - Caraga

  • Agusan del Norte - capital Cabadbaran; location of several mountains perfect for climbing and trekking
  • Agusan del Sur - capital Prosperidad; the province boasts of several pristine waterfalls and is the location of the mystic Mt. Magdiwata
  • Surigao del Norte - capital Surigao City; known as the Surfing Capital of the Philippines
  • Surigao del Sur - capital Tandag; has several surfing spots

Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao

  • Basilan - capital Isabela City; this province has several pristine waterfalls and beautiful beaches
  • Lanao del Sur - capital Marawi City; home of the Maranao Muslim Tribe
  • Maguindanao - capital Shariff Aguak; location of the P.C. Hill, a historic stone fort
  • Tawi-Tawi - capital Panglima Sugala; this province is home to several exotic wildlife, including wild hogs, wild roosters, and several bird species
  • Sulu - capital Jolo; marine attractions include the Pearl Farm at Marungas Island and the Tubbataha Reef

Cities

  • Manila - the national capital. The Metropolitan Manila area includes several cities and municipalities to form one administrative body governed jointly by the local governments and the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA).
  • Angeles - interesting place with a wild nightlife, wonderful and friendly people.
  • Bacolod - the city of smiles and land of sweet tooths.
  • Baguio - the country's summer capital (cool weather), nice parks and views, home of the "Igorot" peoples, vegetable gardens
  • Batangas - the International Port in South Luzon, beaches, dive-sites, resorts, heritage sites.
  • Cagayan de Oro - known as the City of Golden Friendship, it is popular for whitewater rafting. As the gateway to Northern Mindanao, it is the jump off point to destinations like Camiguin Island and Bukidnon Province.
  • Cebu - also known as the Queen City of the South, Cebu is the first established indigenous settlement discovered by the west in the Philippines. For a short time before the re-dedication of Manila, Cebu City served as the capital of the far eastern territory claimed by Spain.
  • Davao - one of the largest cities in the world in terms of land area. Relatively young when compared with Manila or Cebu, it has grown to become the economic and commercial hub of the southern island of Mindanao. Nearby you'll find the country's tallest mountain (Mount Apo), the endangered Philippine Eagle, and one of priciest orchids in the world, the Waling-waling (Vanda Sanderiana.)
  • Makati City - encompasses the major Central Business District. It is located within the Metro Manila area, and is east of Manila. It is where most of the country's business hubs are situated. It is also ideal for nightlife and shopping.
  • Subic - a freeport zone, adventure and sports.
  • Vigan - historic Spanish town and a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Get around / Safety

Should warnings re: boat travel be moved or duplicated in the stay safe section, or be made sterner? Especially for overnight ferries. I'm mainly thinking about Sulpicio lines, who have an atrocious safety record. (See: the Doña Paz, that collided with an oil tanker, killing an estimated 4000 people, with only a fraction of that number on the official manifest. Also, see last year's Princess of the Stars, that capsized after sailing into a typhoon. How Sulpicio has stuck around despite these is beyond me.)

This is not so much to inspire paranoia, but as a genuine safety warning. While many Filipinos travel by overnight ferry, it is out of necessity -- for tourists it would be MUCH safer to use domestic air travel for long trips, like Manila to Cebu, and supplement it with hydrofoil ferries, like SuperCat.

Should it also be noted that, during typhoon season, it is possible to get rained in if you travel north of Metro Manila? Meaning, the roads leading back to the Metro Manila area may be flooded and impassible, and travel plans should be very flexible as a result. (Subic and Clark aren't much fun if you're stuck indoors, and I've heard it's almost impossible to get up to places like Banaue during typhoon season -- at least, this is why I've never been there.) At least, it should be mentioned that if you're looking for fun and sun during that time of year, the Visayas are a better bet, since they're less effected by the typhoons.

Let me know what you guys think. :)

—The preceding comment was added by Tealychee (talkcontribs) .

Philippine Map is Wrong

Look at the map, Palawan should be part of Luzon, masbate is part of Mindanao. —The preceding comment was added by 125.60.243.83 (talkcontribs) .

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