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Burmesedays: /* Regions */

2011-08-07T07:28:21Z

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2011-08-06T07:20:49Z

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2011-08-04T01:59:17Z

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	::::::Fixes done. Any other comments please?--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 03:20, 6 August 2011 (EDT)		::::::Fixes done. Any other comments please?--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 03:20, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
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		+	:::::::Map posted and region changes done. A lot of fiddly work. All four top level region articles could do with re-writing. If anyone fancies that job, please go ahead.--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 03:28, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

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 ::I am working on this regions map and hope to post a draft for comment in next day or two.--[[User:Burmesedays|Burmesedays]] 21:17, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
-[[Image:Panama Regions map.png|thumb|centre|570px]]
+[[Image:Panama Regions map.png|thumb|centre|575px]]
 Here is the map. I think Panama has been a singularly unloved country article, and there is a huge amount of regionalisation work to be done. So before starting on that, it would be good to get in advance any comments on the region plan here. The plan as put forward above did require splitting two provinces across region borders (Panama and Veruguas).--[[User:Burmesedays|Burmesedays]] 05:33, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
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 :::::I could maybe use a dotted line to create that effect? I am though very unsure of the extent of the true no-go area. It cannot correspond to the area on the map you linked as that is truly huge. I know you can go all the way to northern termination of the PAH at Yaviza for example. Not so sure what happens on the Colombian side within the FARC run areas, but it seems that the unconnected ends of the PAH are only 100 km apart?--[[User:Burmesedays|Burmesedays]] 21:59, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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	::::I think it looks great, and the regions seem fine. Maybe it would be useful to show what exactly is the Darién Gap, since that's the clear no-go area? As it currently stands, the map gives the impression that it's possible to go around Darién (NP) to get to Colombia, but using a diagonal stripe pattern to show the area colord in on [[:wmc:File:Región_Darién.png\|this map]] might make things clearer? --[[User:Peterfitzgerald\|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald\|Talk]]</sup></small> 20:19, 3 August 2011 (EDT)		::::I think it looks great, and the regions seem fine. Maybe it would be useful to show what exactly is the Darién Gap, since that's the clear no-go area? As it currently stands, the map gives the impression that it's possible to go around Darién (NP) to get to Colombia, but using a diagonal stripe pattern to show the area colord in on [[:wmc:File:Región_Darién.png\|this map]] might make things clearer? --[[User:Peterfitzgerald\|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald\|Talk]]</sup></small> 20:19, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
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		+	:::::I could maybe use a dotted line to create that effect? I am though very unsure of the extent of the true no-go area. It cannot correspond to the area on the map you linked as that is truly huge. I know you can go all the way to northern termination of the PAH at Yaviza for example. Not so sure what happens on the Colombian side within the FARC run areas, but it seems that the unconnected ends of the PAH are only 100 km apart?--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 21:59, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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	:::I am not in love with bland names like Pacific West either and only use them by default. But I couldn't really come up with anything else.		:::I am not in love with bland names like Pacific West either and only use them by default. But I couldn't really come up with anything else.
	:::Thanks for the compliment on the map. I am more and more taken by soft colour palettes and very light strokes (if any) for our maps).--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 10:40, 3 August 2011 (EDT)		:::Thanks for the compliment on the map. I am more and more taken by soft colour palettes and very light strokes (if any) for our maps).--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 10:40, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
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		+	::::I think it looks great, and the regions seem fine. Maybe it would be useful to show what exactly is the Darién Gap, since that's the clear no-go area? As it currently stands, the map gives the impression that it's possible to go around Darién (NP) to get to Colombia, but using a diagonal stripe pattern to show the area colord in on [[:wmc:File:Región_Darién.png\|this map]] might make things clearer? --[[User:Peterfitzgerald\|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald\|Talk]]</sup></small> 20:19, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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 :::On the Pearl Islands that's my error - I intended to include those in Central for the very reasons you put forward. They got incorrectly grouped somehow. Will put that right.
 :::I am not in love with bland names like Pacific West either and only use them by default. But I couldn't really come up with anything else.
-::Thanks for the compliment on the map. I am more and more taken by soft colour palettes and very light strokes (if any) for our maps).--[[User:Burmesedays|Burmesedays]] 10:40, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
+:::Thanks for the compliment on the map. I am more and more taken by soft colour palettes and very light strokes (if any) for our maps).--[[User:Burmesedays|Burmesedays]] 10:40, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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	::I haven't checked recently but as far as what my original post above says, [[Chiriqui]], [[Bocas del Toro]], [[Gulf of Chiriquí]] seem to be third-level subregions, but we might need a through check again.		::I haven't checked recently but as far as what my original post above says, [[Chiriqui]], [[Bocas del Toro]], [[Gulf of Chiriquí]] seem to be third-level subregions, but we might need a through check again.
	::And no matter what, let me say that the map looks great—I especially liked the colour palette. – [[User:Vidimian\|Vidimian]] 10:29, 3 August 2011 (EDT)		::And no matter what, let me say that the map looks great—I especially liked the colour palette. – [[User:Vidimian\|Vidimian]] 10:29, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
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		+	:::On the Pearl Islands that's my error - I intended to include those in Central for the very reasons you put forward. They got incorrectly grouped somehow. Will put that right.
		+	:::I am not in love with bland names like Pacific West either and only use them by default. But I couldn't really come up with anything else.
		+	::Thanks for the compliment on the map. I am more and more taken by soft colour palettes and very light strokes (if any) for our maps).--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 10:40, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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 ::This is almost exactly the division I proposed more than a year ago, except that I've proposed Pearl Islands to be a part of Central Panama, since their only access to the rest of the world seems to be via Panama City. However, having no travel experience in the country, I can readily accept arguments for the contrary.
-::I'm not sure how good and distinguishable "Pacific West" and "Atlantic West" are as region names—I've just proposed them as some sort of "provisional" names to make it clearer what I was talking about, so if anyone has better alternatives in mind, by all means, please go ahead.
+::I'm not sure how good and distinguishable "Pacific West" and "Caribbean West" are as region names—I've just proposed them as some sort of "provisional" names to make it clearer what I was talking about, so if anyone has better alternatives in mind, by all means, please go ahead.
 ::I haven't checked recently but as far as what my original post above says, [[Chiriqui]],  [[Bocas del Toro]], [[Gulf of Chiriquí]] seem to be third-level subregions, but we might need a through check again.
 ::And no matter what, let me say that the map looks great—I especially liked the colour palette. &ndash; [[User:Vidimian|Vidimian]] 10:29, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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	:The more I delve, the worse it gets. We have random third level region articles, complete inconsistency with squiggly and non-squiggly name versions, non-articles..... it goes on. Big task ahead in organising Panama. --[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 09:44, 3 August 2011 (EDT)		:The more I delve, the worse it gets. We have random third level region articles, complete inconsistency with squiggly and non-squiggly name versions, non-articles..... it goes on. Big task ahead in organising Panama. --[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 09:44, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
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		+	::This is almost exactly the division I proposed more than a year ago, except that I've proposed Pearl Islands to be a part of Central Panama, since their only access to the rest of the world seems to be via Panama City. However, having no travel experience in the country, I can readily accept arguments for the contrary.
		+	::I'm not sure how good and distinguishable "Pacific West" and "Atlantic West" are as region names—I've just proposed them as some sort of "provisional" names to make it clearer what I was talking about, so if anyone has better alternatives in mind, by all means, please go ahead.
		+	::I haven't checked recently but as far as what my original post above says, [[Chiriqui]], [[Bocas del Toro]], [[Gulf of Chiriquí]] seem to be third-level subregions, but we might need a through check again.
		+	::And no matter what, let me say that the map looks great—I especially liked the colour palette. – [[User:Vidimian\|Vidimian]] 10:29, 3 August 2011 (EDT)

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	[[Image:Panama Regions map.png\|thumb\|centre\|580px]]		[[Image:Panama Regions map.png\|thumb\|centre\|580px]]
	Here is the map. I think Panama has been a singularly unloved country article, and there is a huge amount of regionalisation work to be done. So before starting on that, it would be good to get in advance any comments on the region plan here. The plan as put forward above did require splitting two provinces across region borders (Panama and Veruguas).--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 05:33, 3 August 2011 (EDT)		Here is the map. I think Panama has been a singularly unloved country article, and there is a huge amount of regionalisation work to be done. So before starting on that, it would be good to get in advance any comments on the region plan here. The plan as put forward above did require splitting two provinces across region borders (Panama and Veruguas).--[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 05:33, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
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		+	:The more I delve, the worse it gets. We have random third level region articles, complete inconsistency with squiggly and non-squiggly name versions, non-articles..... it goes on. Big task ahead in organising Panama. --[[User:Burmesedays\|Burmesedays]] 09:44, 3 August 2011 (EDT)