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This message was triggered off by what Jpatokal said in the [[Central (Malaysia)]] discussion page. I agree that decribing a region in Peninsular Malaysia as "Central" is odd. As a Malaysian, I have never heard of this being used. The usual references to regions in Malaysia are "East Coast" to cover Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang and "West Coast" for Perlis, Kedah, Penang, Perak, Selangor, Negeri Sembilan, Malacca and even Johor. Johor of course has both a west and east coast, so it may not fit the "West Coast" classification so well. Can I rename and regroup the regions of Peninsular Malaysia into "West Coast" for Perlis down to Negeri Sembilan, "East Coast" for Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang, and "South" for Malacca and Johor.[[User:Slleong|Slleong]] 10:06, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
This message was triggered off by what Jpatokal said in the [[Central (Malaysia)]] discussion page. I agree that decribing a region in Peninsular Malaysia as "Central" is odd. As a Malaysian, I have never heard of this being used. The usual references to regions in Malaysia are "East Coast" to cover Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang and "West Coast" for Perlis, Kedah, Penang, Perak, Selangor, Negeri Sembilan, Malacca and even Johor. Johor of course has both a west and east coast, so it may not fit the "West Coast" classification so well. Can I rename and regroup the regions of Peninsular Malaysia into "West Coast" for Perlis down to Negeri Sembilan, "East Coast" for Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang, and "South" for Malacca and Johor.[[User:Slleong|Slleong]] 10:06, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
  
==Region vfd discussions==
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== Region vfd discussions ==
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=== North (Malaysia) ===
  
===North (Malaysia)===
 
 
* Delete. Merged into the more commonly known [[West_Coast_(Malaysia)]] which extends from north to south.[[User:Slleong|Slleong]] 05:39, 9 March 2006 (EST)
 
* Delete. Merged into the more commonly known [[West_Coast_(Malaysia)]] which extends from north to south.[[User:Slleong|Slleong]] 05:39, 9 March 2006 (EST)
 
* <strike>Keep & redirect to [[West_Coast_(Malaysia)]]</strike> Changed my mind - instead:
 
* <strike>Keep & redirect to [[West_Coast_(Malaysia)]]</strike> Changed my mind - instead:
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*** Is the edit history worth considering when thinking about how common usage of such a term might be? Neither [[North (Malaysia)]] nor [[Central (Malaysia)]] started out as disambiguations - the origins of both seem to be pretty much identical to [[North (India)]] except that instead of a single region being subdivided, the entire region was re-divided. [[User:203.151.141.194|203.151.141.194]] 05:55, 27 March 2006 (EST)
 
*** Is the edit history worth considering when thinking about how common usage of such a term might be? Neither [[North (Malaysia)]] nor [[Central (Malaysia)]] started out as disambiguations - the origins of both seem to be pretty much identical to [[North (India)]] except that instead of a single region being subdivided, the entire region was re-divided. [[User:203.151.141.194|203.151.141.194]] 05:55, 27 March 2006 (EST)
  
===Central (Malaysia)===
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=== Central (Malaysia) ===
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* Delete. Even more unheard of than the above, also merged contents into [[West_Coast_(Malaysia)]].[[User:Slleong|Slleong]] 05:39, 9 March 2006 (EST)
 
* Delete. Even more unheard of than the above, also merged contents into [[West_Coast_(Malaysia)]].[[User:Slleong|Slleong]] 05:39, 9 March 2006 (EST)
 
* <strike>Keep - was converted to a disambiguation yesterday</strike> Keep if keeping [[North (Malaysia)]] - otherwise delete. [[User:203.151.141.194|203.151.141.194]] 06:05, 27 March 2006 (EST)
 
* <strike>Keep - was converted to a disambiguation yesterday</strike> Keep if keeping [[North (Malaysia)]] - otherwise delete. [[User:203.151.141.194|203.151.141.194]] 06:05, 27 March 2006 (EST)
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** See comments above. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] 20:00, 25 March 2006 (EST)
 
** See comments above. -- [[User:Wrh2|Ryan]] 20:00, 25 March 2006 (EST)
  
===People ===
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== People ==
  
 
I disagree with the revised population statistics.
 
I disagree with the revised population statistics.
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[[User:Greenmango|Greenmango]] 01:34, 4 October 2006 (EDT)
 
[[User:Greenmango|Greenmango]] 01:34, 4 October 2006 (EDT)
  
===Stay Save===
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== Stay safe ==
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WARNING: Indonesians (they look like Malays) around Kuala Lumpur cheat tourists frequently by selling fake products (like Rolex, etc.). STAY AWAY FROM THESE CHEATERS. THEY WILL FOLLOW YOU. Also, be careful with taxi drivers because some charge an unusually high fees when it comes to foreigners.  
 
WARNING: Indonesians (they look like Malays) around Kuala Lumpur cheat tourists frequently by selling fake products (like Rolex, etc.). STAY AWAY FROM THESE CHEATERS. THEY WILL FOLLOW YOU. Also, be careful with taxi drivers because some charge an unusually high fees when it comes to foreigners.  
  
 
that part is racist and not appropriate
 
that part is racist and not appropriate

Revision as of 18:41, 31 March 2007

Contents

CIA Factbook Import

For reference the Wikitravel:CIA World Factbook 2002 import is at Talk:Malaysia/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

Malaria

There is a Malaria page, unless it got deleted. I noted it before and thought it should be discussed-- what do we do with health issues? They should be discussed, but in how much detail and in what format? Before I go any futher, I'll take this to the Malaria talk page... Majnoona 10:52, 29 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Destinations

How about Malacca and Kota Bharu as Destination cities? I don't know what slogans to use for them, but I think they belong. Malacca, abode of history? Kota Bharu, gem of the Northeast?

09:30, 5 July 2005 (UTC)

Anything you like boss... but we don't have to list every city in the main page, places like Kota Bharu are hardly tourist attractions (or "gems"). Jpatokal 06:10, 5 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Well, is Taiping really a pensioners' paradise? I've never been there, but then I'm not a pensioner, nor are most tourists, and there are probably things about that city that would appeal to younger visitors. I happen to like Kota Bharu and think that it belongs because it's very different from every other city in Malaysia. The appeal for visitors is its uniqueness, in culture, food, architecture, dialect, etc. You might not find the pasars there a big deal, for example, but that doesn't mean other tourists wouldn't. But in any case, I'm just throwing out the idea to someone who might want to write the article. I'd do it, but I'm not enough of an expert. If you aren't interested, no problem.

Michael 09:43, 6 July 2005 (UTC)

None of us are "experts", we're all just Wikitravellers. Plunge forward and edit, if somebody doesn't like your edits they'll edit them again, and eventually it'll settle down to a happy compromise.
Also, smaller towns can be listed on regional pages, eg. you'll find Kota Bharu under East Coast (Malaysia). And if you can enter what you found interesting about KB by all means add it in, then I'll know what to look for the next time I pass through (which, from the looks of it, will be about 1.5 weeks from now). Jpatokal 07:12, 6 Jul 2005 (EDT)

This message was triggered off by what Jpatokal said in the Central (Malaysia) discussion page. I agree that decribing a region in Peninsular Malaysia as "Central" is odd. As a Malaysian, I have never heard of this being used. The usual references to regions in Malaysia are "East Coast" to cover Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang and "West Coast" for Perlis, Kedah, Penang, Perak, Selangor, Negeri Sembilan, Malacca and even Johor. Johor of course has both a west and east coast, so it may not fit the "West Coast" classification so well. Can I rename and regroup the regions of Peninsular Malaysia into "West Coast" for Perlis down to Negeri Sembilan, "East Coast" for Kelantan, Terengganu and Pahang, and "South" for Malacca and Johor.Slleong 10:06, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)

Region vfd discussions

North (Malaysia)

  • Delete. Merged into the more commonly known West_Coast_(Malaysia) which extends from north to south.Slleong 05:39, 9 March 2006 (EST)
  • Keep & redirect to West_Coast_(Malaysia) Changed my mind - instead:
  • Keep & disambiguate (which I've just done, incorporating state lists/links).
  • Delete. -- Tom Holland (xltel) 15:31, 14 March 2006 (EST)
  • What do people think of such quasi-disambiguations, i.e. where you disambiguate not because of repeated name, but because the region covers other regions? I myself am in favour, having done so for North (India) after I split it into two regions. But it is not covered under policy — Ravikiran 01:10, 25 March 2006 (EST)
    • My personal preference would be to come up with a clear set of regions and stick to them, and only set up redirects and disambiguations when there are common region names in use that differ from what Wikitravel uses. In this case I don't think "North Malaysia" would be a common enough term that we need an article for it. -- Ryan 20:00, 25 March 2006 (EST)
    • Good. So North India stays and this goes — Ravikiran 00:00, 26 March 2006 (EST)
      • Is the edit history worth considering when thinking about how common usage of such a term might be? Neither North (Malaysia) nor Central (Malaysia) started out as disambiguations - the origins of both seem to be pretty much identical to North (India) except that instead of a single region being subdivided, the entire region was re-divided. 203.151.141.194 05:55, 27 March 2006 (EST)

Central (Malaysia)

  • Delete. Even more unheard of than the above, also merged contents into West_Coast_(Malaysia).Slleong 05:39, 9 March 2006 (EST)
  • Keep - was converted to a disambiguation yesterday Keep if keeping North (Malaysia) - otherwise delete. 203.151.141.194 06:05, 27 March 2006 (EST)
  • Delete. -- Tom Holland (xltel) 15:31, 14 March 2006 (EST)
  • What do people think of such quasi-disambiguations, i.e. where you disambiguate not because of repeated name, but because the region covers other regions? I myself am in favour, having done so for North (India) after I split it into two regions. But it is not covered under policy — Ravikiran 01:10, 25 March 2006 (EST)
    • See comments above. -- Ryan 20:00, 25 March 2006 (EST)

People

I disagree with the revised population statistics. The official 2004 stats are Malay 50.8%, Chinese 23.8%, Indigenous 10.9%, Indian 7.1%, non-Malaysian citizens 6.8 %, others 0.6%. Greenmango 01:34, 4 October 2006 (EDT)

Stay safe

WARNING: Indonesians (they look like Malays) around Kuala Lumpur cheat tourists frequently by selling fake products (like Rolex, etc.). STAY AWAY FROM THESE CHEATERS. THEY WILL FOLLOW YOU. Also, be careful with taxi drivers because some charge an unusually high fees when it comes to foreigners.

that part is racist and not appropriate

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