to the "drink" section I added the line "Something to note however is that some areas may be so laid back that they will expect you to keep track of of what you have drunk, with the odd guest house asking how much you have drunk during your stay upon check out." as that is what I encountered, can any one else can confirm this?--Hypo Mix 08:03, 27 January 2011 (EST)
My dearest Anonymous, find me something in Laos as impressive as Angkor Wat, and you can keep your comment. Otherwise I'll stand by my ground that Laos' temples are not as awe-inspiring as Cambodia's. Jpatokal 02:02, 4 Aug 2005 (EDT)
You are right about the temples, but Lao scenery is more impressive. I traveled by boat from Siem Reap to Phnom Penh and (later) from Phnom Penh to Vietnam and I found it just boring. In contrast, the boat from Luang Prabang to Thailand is much more scenic (and it takes two days, while both trips in Cambodia took less than a day). Rbakels 03:16, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
A lot in this article seems to come from Lonely Planet (shoestring SE-asia), some descriptions word-by-word. For example Lao or Laos section and speed/slowboat section contain very known constructions to me.
Hi Anonymous, as for the speed boat section, I did write it without having read the "Shoestring"-Edition. Nevertheless, I did read several Laos-guidebooks, so some expressions might be similar, but the text almagamates all those info and also contains personal experiences. To be clear: I did not willingly copy one line from any other guidebook. I would be surprised if I managed by coincidence to rewrite exactly like the LP-Stuff, that would be something like PSI, don't you think? Information like those on casualties are of course taken from one of the books, but this is not copying or plagiate. Maybe you can elaborate the exact matches and/ or work them over? --Ront 05:11, 15 September 2006 (EDT)
The purpose of this site is not to promote or facilitate promiscuity. I see no reason to have the condom information here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs)
If you act responsible you should use condoms not only if you have several sexual partners. --Flip666writeme! • 18:27, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
The purpose of this site is to provide useful information for travelers. If travelers use condoms (and I think it is fair to say that some do), then information regarding condoms does belong on Wikitravel. If your purpose here is to delete travel information related to family planning or safe sex, then I would suggest that your goals are incompatible with those of Wikitravel. --PeterTalk 18:46, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
Instead of deleting one line about condoms, why not focus on filling articles with listings for interesting things travelers can do in any given location besides have sex? That will keep travelers occupied and un-promiscuous, and keep you un-censorious. Gorilla Jones 21:08, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
I've also put back the line about lao lao being the cheapest way to get hammered because, well, it is. And you don't drink that stuff for the taste! Jpatokal 00:08, 13 July 2007 (EDT)
Could somebody explain to me what, exactly, is wrong with the word "hammered"? Jpatokal 05:55, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
What you fail to understand is that "hammered" is an unencyclopedic term and violates NPOV. --VisitingWikipedian 16:13, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
I do not like recommending our readers how to get drunken and when I first read this sentence I did not understand the ironic tone in this sentence. We are not an enzyclopedia and it is perfectly ok to use colloquial language, so I have no problems with the word "hammered" but it might sound like a recommondation, so maybe we should remove this sentence completely. --Flip666writeme! • 16:39, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
Sorry Flip, rest assured that sarcasm was not directed at you. My feeling on this is that there are travelers looking to get hammered (I tend to run in to these folks on trains...) and they might as well get their information here. I say we give travelers the information and let them decide for themselves how to behave. --PeterTalk 18:22, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
It's back. And this is my new favorite edit comment, even if I do say so myself. Jpatokal 22:26, 24 July 2007 (EDT)
For an international audience, it would be helpful not to use slang. My command of English is sufficient to prefer the English language version of WikiTravel, because it usually contains more information than other language versions. But my command of slang is limited. Another comment is that (unformtunately) some people travel to Laos just for "sex, drugs and rock and roll". While thare are stiff penalties on drugs, alcohol and sex is apparently the sole purpose for some people to travel to Vang Vieng. It may be a deliberate strategy of the Lao autorities to attract tourists that otherwise would find Laos boring. Rbakels 03:24, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
getting rid of Lao Kip outside of Laos is difficult ,you are right Jpatokal...!
the end of the cold war doesn't seem to hold for bankers....:(
In Vietnam I could change them ,but not to a fair rate...184.108.40.206 08:04, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
I think it's the Laotian Communist Party who never noticed that the Cold War ended, not the capitalist running-dog bankers... Jpatokal 09:40, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Whoever wrote this Wikitravel page, I think did a phenominal job and I just wanted to mention that here and say thank you. I found it extremely informative, and I did like realistic facts laced with humor. I was on the fence about going to Laos but now I'm fired up to go. I was a little suprised at some of the complaints, especially the condom guy, lighten up buddy. Anyways, don't worry about the whiners, I think you're entry is really good!
Laos is accumulating orphaned city/town articles without regions. It would be greatly appreciated if someone(s) with knowledge of the country would help build a region structure for our articles. --PeterTalk 12:48, 3 January 2009 (EST)
I know Laos from 3 actual extended visits and a lot of reading, and shall have a go. I do not think Laos requires an especially complex regional structure and I have come up with two options. --Burmesedays 00:06, 28 November 2009 (EST)
Option 1. A simple north, central and south split. Makes sense for a long, narrow country like Laos (especially when there are no coastal regions to deal with) and, in my experience, visitors do think of the country in these terms. So we would have:
Northern Laos - all of the northern hill provinces to the southern/south-eastern extremities of Xaignabouli and Louangprabang provinces.
Central Laos - everything south and south-east of Xaignabouli and Louangprabang provinces to the Southern Laos border as defined below.
Southern Laos - everything south from the provincial border between Kahmmouan and Savannakhet. An alternative would be to use the Kading River as a more northerly boundary.
Option 2 is a bit more geographical but makes less sense for the traveler I believe. Keep Northern Laos as defined above. Move the southern boundary of Central Laos north to the Kading River. Split the south into two regions: Annanite Mountains and Mekong Plains. So we would have:
Either way, but I prefer Option 1. I am sure there are WikiTravelers who know Laos better than me and comments are very welcome. --Burmesedays 00:06, 28 November 2009 (EST)
Given the uncontroversial nature of this proposed regionalisation and the general lack of interest, I will plunge forward and do it. --Burmesedays 10:38, 4 December 2009 (EST)
Awesome map! Unfortunately I don't know the country well enough to help, but this seems like a logical way. Globe-trotter 12:32, 7 December 2009 (EST)
I'd also go with Option 1 -- nice and simple. Jpatokal 04:15, 5 January 2010 (EST)
The article is very right that minibuses are less comfortable than even a basic regular Lao bus. The article mentions the option to rent a car with a driver. I wonder whether it is feasible to rent a car without a driver, if only that allows even more freedom. In my perception the main roads are in a fairly good condition, and they are pretty empty. And in Laos cars traffic drives at the right side of the road, which is good if you are used to that. Any comments?Rbakels 03:10, 1 April 2012 (EDT)
I removed the political references in the first paragraph of the article and replaced them with something more neutral as they seem misplaced in the intro. I don't think that the fact that the regime is autoritarian and there have been a few cases of political activists gone missing in the last 10 years warrants a mention in the first paragraph as one of the main characteristics of the country. This could be mentioned further down in the article.