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Koryakia

Copied from User talk:AHeneen#Koryakia and User talk:Peterfitzgerald#Koryakia

While I fully support it (didn't even know the peninsula was split up into two oblasts/krais or whatever it is up there), I think you should at least notify Peter before messing around with the Russian Hierachy - as I understand it, he spend quite a bit of time organising the damn stuff. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 20:23, 24 February 2009 (EST)

I merged the couple of sentences about Koryakia with Kamchatka and turned the former into a redirect page. Sertmann mentioned on my talk page that you spent a lot of time with the Russian hierarchy, so I thought I'd mention that here. Unless the Kamchatka article were retitled "Kamchatka Krai", the Kamchatka peninsula includes almost all of Koryakia...so to me it seemed like a no-brainer to merge the two. AHeneen 21:20, 24 February 2009 (EST)
As you probably know, not long ago Koryak Okrug & Kamchatka Krai were separate federal subjects, but Koryak Okrug has since merged into Kamchatka Krai. There are a ton of meaningful destinations in Kamchatka; far less so in Koryakia. My general feeling is that it does make sense to keep the regions separate, if only because nearly no one who visits Kamchatka actually makes it so far north into the wild as Palana. Therefore it might be wise to not burden visitors to Kamchatka with information about Koryakia, since it's irrelevant for the vast majority of them, and there is a clear dividing line to separate content (the old federal subject border). The two regions, while united by geography, are distinct in terms of culture, and more importantly travel infrastructure!
All that said, we're currently making major revisions to the Russian hierarchy on the Russian version, and our Russian colleagues know a lot more about these regions than we do. I intend to readjust the Russian regions hierarchy here once we've settled on a scheme over there, so we might as well leave the articles as you have combined them until then. --Peter Talk 00:08, 25 February 2009 (EST)
I'll add that if we do keep the articles separate (and that is my inclination), it would probably be best to treat Koryakia as a subregion of Kamchatka, covered in that separate article. --Peter Talk 00:11, 25 February 2009 (EST)

Well, we've done the reorganization over there, and I've implemented it here as well. We haven't discussed anything in Asian Russia, though, since our regular users are all from European Russia. In any rate, Koryakia is a very well defined region, and aside from geography differs enough from pre-merge Kamchakta Krai, that I think it's worth keeping as a subregion of this article. That would allow us to discuss the geographic commonalities, as well as the more important information about the southern section of the peninsula, while saving information particular to Koryakia (culture, infrastructure, cuisine, etc.) to a separate article. The main reason for doing so is that the vast majority of travelers who visit the peninsula do not get so far north as Koryakia, even to Polana. Thus, we shouldn't clutter this article with information irrelevant to most visitors. --Peter Talk 00:35, 4 March 2009 (EST)

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