So, France has 22 official regions and 96 official departements. I think this is too many to handle gracefully on this page, and I think we need to split up the country into our own regions (not the official ones, but travel ones). My attempt is on the France page -- corrections more welcome than comments. -- Evan 13:54, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)
Yep, I really think we need to reorganize that main page. I'm going to do it before the end of the week - I'd love also to get rid of the "CIA" stuff, which IMHO is not useful. The 22 regions can be splitted into geographical groups : north, west, center, east, southwest, southeast, plus Ile de France. That's seven, nice ! -- Mathieu 18:35, 12 Nov 2003.
Hmm... Well, I wonder if more traditional names for the regions won't be more accessible for English-speaking readers. I don't know what's in the East or North-East of France, but I know names like Normandy, Provence, Brittany, and Alsace-Lorraine... I think maybe your division along the official region lines, grouped into geographical areas, may be too exact. And, y'know, we do prefer to use the English names of places when possible (see article naming conventions for details). Any other thoughts? -- Evan 08:46, 16 Nov 2003 (PST)
This is probably more of a philosophical issue, but I think we need both. The "traditional regions" are not always known to tourists, so it is good to have an organization that can be easily found on a map ; on the other hand the geographical region naming doesn't have the same appealing power than the "traditional" one. On a personal viewpoint, I usually prefer working with geographical areas, thus my organization, but I understand that people might work another way. -- Mathieu 06:03, 17 Nov 2003 (PST)
Taken notice from Evan -- I understand better why you stick to a "Flat hierarchy" now. I will move my page to respect this. -- Mathieu 18:39, 12 Nov 2003.