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: Maybe the Bethel or Opera in [[Copenhagen/Indre_By#Sleep]] [[User:Elgaard|elgaard]] 19:06, 4 November 2008 (EST)
 
: Maybe the Bethel or Opera in [[Copenhagen/Indre_By#Sleep]] [[User:Elgaard|elgaard]] 19:06, 4 November 2008 (EST)
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* House of Colors: I have stayed at House of Colors twice. The first time in 2002 when Gitte Kongstad was the proprietor and the second time this past summer (2009) under new ownership. Although the new owner is not as friendly and passionate as Gitte was, House of Colors is still a fantastic place to stay. It is 2 or 3 1 bedroom apartments w/ a full kitchen, dining table and a small living room. There is also a nice garden with tables and free use of old but serviceable bicycles. Within easy walking distance is the main beach, The Amager Center shopping mall with 2 grocery stores and other shops and the main street Amagerbrogade which has many small shops and restaurants including a great takeaway pizza joint run by Italians called Massimo [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=copenhagen,+denmark%22&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Copenhagen,+Denmark&gl=us&ei=iKpkS7qzLoTaNo-Wye0G&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CA4Q8gEwAA] The place is approximately 3 km from the town center. Walkable but a bit far to say it's an easy walk. There is a metro stop 100 meters away and frequent bus service. Christianhavn is a bit closer (1 to 1.5 km away) about halfway into the town center. But in Copenhagen, riding a bicycle is the way to go. Bike paths are everywhere and take you anywhere you want to go safely and quickly. Plus, when riding, you feel like a local and are inspired to ride all over the city and see things you never would walking or taking mass transit. I believe their website has been shut down and they are using facebook as their point of contact [http://www.facebook.com/houseofcolors] Make sure you book early as they fill up quickly.
  
 
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::I'd like to say some thing similar.  Sertmann, you have done a splendid job and Copenhagen will be the best article-well articles, in the Eastern Hemisphere!  Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="green">ee</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 10:31, 13 November 2008 (EST).
 
::I'd like to say some thing similar.  Sertmann, you have done a splendid job and Copenhagen will be the best article-well articles, in the Eastern Hemisphere!  Keep smiling, [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="green">ee</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="gray">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 10:31, 13 November 2008 (EST).
  
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:::I've noticed that a number of attractions listed (see Art for example) have been separated out of their bullet points, and that all relevant information, location, opening times, contact phone numbers etc. has been removed. The sections are much more difficult to read in this format, plus you need to buy a guide book, which seems to defeat the whole point of Wikitravel! January 18th 2009 [[User:Spircle|Spircle]]
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:::: Hmmmm I really don't know how to make it any clearer than writing "''Complete listings can be found in the appropriate districts''" and linking to the districts throughout the main article. Should that paragraph be copied into every subsection? a big disclaimer be written in the start of the article? or how do I make it more obvious? --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:13, 18 January 2009 (EST)
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:::::Apologies, I was used to finding all of the relevant information on the main page, and hadn't realised that it had since been sub-divided by district.  There's an awful lot of text in the article, so it's easy to miss the link to the districts if you're only browsing one sub-section. I agree that it's probably best to leave it the way it is, rather than duplicating information, but if I get any better ideas, I'll let you know. [[User:Spircle|Spircle]] 19 January 2009
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==Infoboxes==
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''Swept in from the [[pub]]'':
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OK, this might be a bit specific for the pub, but I'd like some comments on the use of info boxes as I seem to be breaking the standard on some of my district articles
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* [[Copenhagen/Indre_By#Slotsholmen|Copenhagen/Indre By]]
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* [[Copenhagen/Christianshavn#See|Copenhagen/Christianshavn]]
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* [[Copenhagen/Northern_suburbs#Mølleå River|Copenhagen/Northern suburbs]]
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I don't think I've turned the article into something akin to wikipedia, which seems to be the main concern - the function is mainly to separate out content, that don't really warrant it's own article, but don't really mix well with the main content either. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania Christiania] in particular is a special case, since it's essentially a city within the city, but doesn't offer sleeping options - and doesn't have enough content (as of now anyway) to work as a separate district (same case as the Vatican I suppose).
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I'll sweep this into the Copenhagen talk page once I've gotten some comments, and please don't worry about the images on the Christianshavn district, They're there merely as a place holder, until I finish up the article.
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--[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:10, 27 November 2008 (EST)
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:My take is as follows. The '''Tivoli''' infobox is appropriate, though I do think it should be trimmed down a little more. The '''Christiania''' infobox would work better as a ''district'' article of Copenhagen-- the "must-have-a-place-to-sleep" rule doesn't have to be rigid when it comes to districts with plenty to see, do and eat. The '''Mølleå river''' infobox could go either way-- if there is enough interesting information to be added it could potentially make an itinerary article. Otherwise it ought to be pruned and reworded a bit so as not to take up quite so much space. Hope that helps! [[User:Texugo|Texugo]] 07:43, 28 November 2008 (EST)
  
 
==Credit Card==
 
==Credit Card==
Since I am lazy, can someone mention that credit card without embedded SIM card or PIN code does not work in Copenhagen, I've been there twice in 2008, very few stores are willing to accept my Master Card or Visa Card. (Excepts on the shops in Stroget the tourist area), simular experiences in Malmo, Roskilde, Helsingor, Hillerod.  Luckily it's a nation with low crime on tourist, I always ended up carry lots cash, but with every meal cost about 200 Kr in the restaurants, I ended up have to run to bank all the time.  It is very strange, I talked to customer services on both Visa and Master Card, they said this is not possible and should be accepted, but it is. [[user:AlbionKyle|Kyle]] 10:10, 8 January 2009 (PST)
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Since I am lazy, can someone mention that credit card without embedded SIM card or PIN code does not work in Copenhagen, I've been there twice in 2008, very few stores are willing to accept my Master Card or Visa Card. (Excepts on the shops in Stroget the tourist area), simular experiences in Malmo, Roskilde, Helsingor, Hillerod.  Luckily it's a nation with low crime rate on tourists, I always ended up carry lots cash, but with every meal cost about 200 Kr in the restaurants, buy transportation fare on cash, I ended up have to run to bank all the time.  It is very strange, I talked to customer services on both Visa and Master Card, they said this is not possible and should be accepted, but it is. [[user:AlbionKyle|Kyle]] 10:10, 8 January 2009 (PST)
  
 
: Denmark is pretty unique since the entire system is build around a unrivalled domestic card, the Dankort, which is universally used for domestic purchases - the card are usually a double issue Dankort/visa, where the visa part is only used abroad. Because of this the system is build up differently than in other countries, and this means - yes - pin only, and pretty much that other cards than visa/mastercard is only accepted very few places. However you should be fine at restaurants as they use swipe terminals, but that is pretty much the only place you can get by without a pin.  [[User:Sertmann|Stefan]] 15:01, 8 January 2009 (EST)
 
: Denmark is pretty unique since the entire system is build around a unrivalled domestic card, the Dankort, which is universally used for domestic purchases - the card are usually a double issue Dankort/visa, where the visa part is only used abroad. Because of this the system is build up differently than in other countries, and this means - yes - pin only, and pretty much that other cards than visa/mastercard is only accepted very few places. However you should be fine at restaurants as they use swipe terminals, but that is pretty much the only place you can get by without a pin.  [[User:Sertmann|Stefan]] 15:01, 8 January 2009 (EST)
  
:: What I meant is to mentioned this credit card situation in the Article page, so bring cash, tourists! [[User:AlbionKyle|Kyle]] 17:15, 8 January 2009 (PST)
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:: What I meant was to mention this credit card situation in the Article page, so bring cash, tourists! [[User:AlbionKyle|Kyle]] 17:15, 8 January 2009 (PST)
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::: Yeah, I realized, only thing is I'm not sure it should be included - so I left the explanation here, for others to use. Is Visa/Mastercards with[out] a pin a common occurrence anywhere? I've certainly never heard about it before.  --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 11:38, 9 January 2009 (EST)
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:::::It's spreading like cancer in Europe, but pretty much unknown elsewhere.  Looking at my recent travels, it was ubiquitous in Finland, very common in Ireland, and unknown in eg. Germany, Luxembourg or anywhere in the Middle East/Asia.  Some Singaporean banks are introducing it now though.  See also [[Money#Credit cards]]. [[User:Jpatokal|Jpatokal]] 13:06, 14 January 2009 (EST)
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:::::: Just to clarify i meant withOUT a pin.... --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 13:38, 14 January 2009 (EST)
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:::::: America still does not issue chip and pin and in fact many American cards are issues without a PIN at all, particularly business cards (presumably to stop people withdrawing cash with them). Unfortunately more and more places in CPH are switching to using the new black and red boxes that can only be used with a PIN. The clerk will have only two options - to let you enter the pin or to cancel the transaction. You used to be able to buy tickets from DSB (the train company) using a PINless card, but now they have also changed (late 2009).
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== Status ==
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Work that needs be done before we can elevate Copenhagen to guide status
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{| border=1
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! District
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! Status
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! Missing
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen|Front Page]]
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| style="background:#a5ed57;" | Star
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| Maybe write a theatre overview in DO section, though most performances are in Danish.
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Amager|Amager]]
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| style="background:#a5ed57;" | Star
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| copy editing
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|-
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| [[Christiania|Christiania]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" |Guide
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| a comprehensive understand section, map, plus research on Cafe Oasen, Marzbar, Sommerbutikken and Yak Celica.
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Christianshavn|Christianshavn]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" |Guide
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| Section introductions
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Frederiksberg|Frederiksberg]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| Expand and complete get in/get around + Værnedamsvej sections
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Indre By|Indre by]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| Could use some section introductions
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Northern suburbs|Northern suburbs]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| Shopping section is the only remaining issue
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Nørrebro|Nørrebro]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| Section introductions
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Vestegnen|Vestegnen]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| Could use some introductions, map is missing.
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|-
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| [[Copenhagen/Vesterbro|Vesterbro]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| [[Copenhagen/Østerbro|Østerbro]]
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| style="background:#ccff66;" | Guide
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| fix map
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|}
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== Currency ==
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This article, and district-articles, is not according to MoS, regarding [[Wikitravel:Currency|currency]]. [[User:ViMy|ViMy]] 11:56, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
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: Damn you! I was really hoping no one would notice :) There is no established national standard for the Danish currency; Kroner/Kr/Kr./kr/,-/DKR/DKK are all used to varying degrees in local shops, but online DKK is almost exclusively used, so personally I think it's the one that makes most sense to use here. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:06, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
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:: I just checked through a lot of other Scandinavian cities, and NOK,SEK,ISK and EEK seemed to be used in all of them, maybe it comes natural, as a way to distinguish what sort of kroner/kronor we are talking about. I'll put this up in the currency talk page. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|Talk]]</sup></small> 18:13, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
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::: Sorry, to create a probem :) But it was a minor issue that had to be solved, since Copenhagen is soon up to Star-status. [[User:ViMy|ViMy]] 11:35, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
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::: There is an ISO standard. It is DKK [http://www.iso.org/iso/support/currency_codes_list-1.htm] [[User:Elgaard|elgaard]] 05:07, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
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I was wondering what the literature section will be for.  [[User:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#339989">'''edmontonenthusiast [ee]'''</font>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:Edmontonenthusiast|<font color="#8848d7">'''.T.A.L.K.'''</font>]]</small></sup> 15:32, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
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== Womex ==
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Want to incorporate something about Womex [http://www.womex.com]? &ndash; [[User:Cacahuate|<font color="green">cacahuate</font>]]  <sup><small>[[User talk:Cacahuate|<font color="blue">talk</font>]]</small></sup> 16:44, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
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== Money ==
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Shouldn't the "money" section of Cope be moved to Buy? [[User:Globe-trotter|Globe-trotter]] 06:24, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
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== Recent edits ==
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Someone seems hell bent on introducing inaccuracies around the Copenhagen article; introducing false exchange rates and inflating prices unrealisticly, also it seems like the weird .com -> .co.uk changer guy is back. I may not be very keen on Wikitravel anymore, but I'm not to happy about all my work being demoted either, So I'll try to check through the Copenhagen articles once a week or so, if unsure please leave edits unpatrolled and let me or Claus run through the changes. --[[User:Sertmann|Stefan (sertmann)]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Sertmann|talk]]</sup></small> 09:56, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
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:Glad to see you're still checking in! I too would hate to see the great work you put into these articles fall into decline.  --[[User:Peterfitzgerald|Peter]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Peterfitzgerald|Talk]]</sup></small> 15:43, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
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EDIT: Swebus tickets can no longer be purchased on the bus. Source: http://www.swebus.se/SwebusExpress_com/Customer_Service/FAQ/Buy-a-ticket/
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== The name of the place ==
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Say, should we not create a redirect for Kopenhaven or something?
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--[[User:Faust 1976|Faust]] 15:06, 12 October 2010 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 19:43, 15 June 2012

Hi. I don't know if this is a problem with the article, or with the new thumb markup, or with my browser (I'm running MSIE 6.0), but this article looks wrong around the 'See' and 'Do' sections, with text and pictures piling up in an apparantly random collision. -- Chris j wood 09:12, 11 Aug 2004 (EDT)


I know. I tried playing with the tags, but it did not help. But i hope it will look when there is more text. User:elgaard

Contents

Tivoli[edit]

I think Tivoli should get its own article. elgaard 12:54, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Nah, it's not nearly big enough for that Sertmann 05:58, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
Check the new Indre By article, I covered Tivoli in a infobox, to separate the content. I'm not quite sure if we should cover the restaurants there - as i think adding restaurants to the infobox would break the lay out Sertmann 18:08, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

Kastellet[edit]

I think Kastellet should be merged with Østerbro Sertmann 14 September 2008 (EDT)

i merged Kastellet with Østerbro :-) , i also merged Christianshavn and Holmen, you can't sleep there, and it's much easier to build on the article this way - did quite a lot of work on the Christianshavn district too. Sertmann 17:49, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
Merged Nord-Vest and Nørrebro, i tried expanding Nord Vest as a district in itself, but couldn't get it to work. And i think the new merged district, though a work in progress is turning out quite nicely. Sertmann 18:05, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

Wanted pictures[edit]

High quality pictures of...

  • Copenhagen Central station (under Get in)
  • Copenhagen Airport (under Get in)
OK, I will just some here for now. You can use the ones you prefer.
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CphAirportTrains.JPG
elgaard 14:44, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

More merging[edit]

I think the area surrounding Copenhagen is very messy, I would propose creating two new disticts in Copenhagen.

  • Nothern Copenhagen Covering the northern part of Storkøbenhavn, from Østerbro to a ring of Farum, Holte, Søllerød and Vedbæk including Lyngby,Charlottenlund, Klampenborg and Skodsborg
  • Vestegnen covering the south western part of Copenhagen, from Frederiksberg to a ring of Ballerup, Herlev, Taastrup and Greve (including Ishøj)

And in the Get out section list, and get some good articles on (and limiting work too)

And then merging anything else in the north eastern part of Zealand, into a good Zealand article

That's the magic 9 :)

Thoughts? - Sertmann 08:07, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

not bad. We should not join Nivå with Elsinore, especially with Humlebæk between. I would prefer to have an Øresund Coast region from Tårbæk to Elsinore, Where do we put, eg Holte? --elgaard 15:07, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
I have no problem with that. But i still think a North Copenhagen district with Hellerup, Emdrup, Farum, Holte and Vedbæk or Klampenborg as it's corners - is the way to go. Even though it get's a bit large geographically, i think it's the best solution. Sertmann 21:02, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
OK, made the changes to the [[Copenhagen/Northern suburbs|Northern suburbs], and left Strandvejen north of Klampenborg for you to do an edit of (note i've included Dyrehavsbakken in the district) but everything north of that is yours. Sertmann 10:25, 6 November 2008 (EST)

guide[edit]

is copenhagen ready for a guide status? keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 14:51, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

No, not yet - I'm still like 5 districts down before I come close to guide status - besides the main article is a sorry mess, which i don't intend to improve before i finish the districts :o)
Oh, I know what you mean, get all the information into the districts first. yaya:)! I was just thinking, the article looked good, silly me, forgot to look at the districts. Hmm well have a great day...oh where you are it is...11:01PM right? So have good day tomorrow, heheheeh. Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 15:01, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

help wanted: place to stay for a couple with a baby[edit]

Maybe this place can help with recommendations?

I am looking for a hotel to stay with my wife and a 4 months-old baby in Copenhagen for New Year (something like Dec 28-Jan 7). The key thing we are looking for is "a place pleasant to spend many hours per day". We always loved family-run small pensions and villas with distinctive character and charm--and it would be great if we can find a hotel of no more than 100 rooms (10-20 rooms is even better). However, if there's a huge chain hotel where someone had really wonderful experience of spending much time with a baby--it would be also appreciated. The budget we are thinking is something like 800-1000DKK, if we understand the prices right. And, if it can help: here are some hotels that we really loved in the past--and that can fit our present needs: [1], [2], [3]. --DenisYurkin 18:10, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

Hey Denis. Since I live here i don't really stay much at Hotels. But the warm owners of the tiny (16 room) Hotel Rye, always comes with the warmest of recomendations - although, the bathrooms are shared, it doesn't seem like that much of a deal, since it has a feel of staying in the owners home - it's hard to beat in terms of uniqueness and atmosphere.
If you want something a bit more upmarket, Hotel Fox is cool, stylish and personal, and i have heard good things about it. If you are looking for something else, please let me know, and I'll try to sort you out. Also if you need a local guide one of the days, give me a shout, and i'll be happy to help, if I can make it fit. Remeber to print the wikitravel guide - im hard at work on making it a jewel, and it should be pretty much up to speed by the end of December :) Sertmann 18:29, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

Thanks, Sertmann--your recommendations are great, you actually read my thoughts :-) Maybe only several things that I can add:

  • it's my first time at Copenhagen, although my wife spent about 3 days there, several years ago
  • as we'll move around with a stroller, it'd be ideal if we reach most of the sights by foot, and to be able to return to the hotel at a short notice :-) -- so living in the downtown is the best option. In this sense, Hotel Fox is excellent
  • as for character and feeling, it's difficult to describe... Hotel Fox is bit urban and over-hitech/anime, uhm, cold?--more for younger people (iPod generation, you know :-) Rye looks personal, but may be on the other end of the age range, more for 50 years+? I mean, something more warm, personal, cozy than Fox (but not a grandma(?) style as Rye) would be just perfect.
  • pitifully, private bathroom are essential when you stay with a young baby--as you need to visit it multiple times per night
  • (and of course, EUR120 is better than 160EUR, but life is not always fair :-)

BTW, how (un)typical is it to expect warm breakfast (like eggs, bacon, porridge etc) in a hotel? --DenisYurkin 05:23, 1 November 2008 (EDT)

Well what about this place I found while doing some research for updating Amager - it looks nice, but I don't know anything about it.

  • House of Colors, Badensgade 2, +45 32 97 71 97 (), [4]. checkin: 2PM; checkout: 10.30AM. Not quite your ordinary apartment rentals, in a 19th-century house situated a quite neighborhood. Features nice colorful rooms as the name might give away, and a lovely little garden 580 DKK for 1 person, 680 for 2 persons per night, discount for stays of 1 week or longer..  edit

As for breakfast, don't expect it to be included unless explicitly noted somewhere - and DON'T expect warm breakfast. Except maybe for eggs, Danish breakfast is very much bread based - white bread with cheese or jam and Danish, is the most typical - typically served as a buffet. While a guess major chains would offer the standard French, English and continental breakfast sets. Sertmann 17:23, 2 November 2008 (EST)

Maybe the Bethel or Opera in Copenhagen/Indre_By#Sleep elgaard 19:06, 4 November 2008 (EST)


  • House of Colors: I have stayed at House of Colors twice. The first time in 2002 when Gitte Kongstad was the proprietor and the second time this past summer (2009) under new ownership. Although the new owner is not as friendly and passionate as Gitte was, House of Colors is still a fantastic place to stay. It is 2 or 3 1 bedroom apartments w/ a full kitchen, dining table and a small living room. There is also a nice garden with tables and free use of old but serviceable bicycles. Within easy walking distance is the main beach, The Amager Center shopping mall with 2 grocery stores and other shops and the main street Amagerbrogade which has many small shops and restaurants including a great takeaway pizza joint run by Italians called Massimo [5] The place is approximately 3 km from the town center. Walkable but a bit far to say it's an easy walk. There is a metro stop 100 meters away and frequent bus service. Christianhavn is a bit closer (1 to 1.5 km away) about halfway into the town center. But in Copenhagen, riding a bicycle is the way to go. Bike paths are everywhere and take you anywhere you want to go safely and quickly. Plus, when riding, you feel like a local and are inspired to ride all over the city and see things you never would walking or taking mass transit. I believe their website has been shut down and they are using facebook as their point of contact [6] Make sure you book early as they fill up quickly.

not in general to copenhageen[edit]

but how do you get those colour tabs beside the districts to make match the map? hmm i saw there was a code...keep smiling, ee talk 18:45, 5 November 2008 (EST).

I'd rather wait explaining this, til I get some responses from my post in the pub Sertmann 10:26, 6 November 2008 (EST)
Ok I saw that. Anyways, I'd like to know. Maybe I should ask the creator of the map? Keep smiling, ee talk 16:49, 6 November 2008 (EST).
Well, that would be me... Sertmann 17:28, 8 November 2008 (EST)
I mean the creator of the Edmonton one...Shaund! Duh, heheheh. Happy first day of snow in Edmonton, ee talk 14:48, 11 November 2008 (EST).

Copenhagen district map[edit]

I've experimented a bit with using the region map template on Copenhagen's district map - And would love to get some feedback. Sertmann 14:55, 1 November 2008 (EDT)

I saw that, Sertmann and I actually learnt from it. It is very interesting and VERYVERY well detailed from geo features to the transit lines ( I don't know what you guys use there-Light Rail, Passenger Rail, Subway...) but yeah! Fantastic work! keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 15:02, 1 November 2008 (EDT)
Tis a work of art, looks really, really nice... good work! The only thing I think is missing is a scale that shows distance – cacahuate talk 21:15, 4 November 2008 (EST)
Looks really good. I was trying to do the same thing with Vancouver, but you've done it better! The only additional thing I'd like to see if I was using the map would be the names of some of the major streets. Shaund 21:35, 4 November 2008 (EST)
I second Shaund's comments. Great work Sertmann. Tarr3n 04:53, 6 November 2008 (EST)

Well thank you guys for the kind words, appreciated :) but what I really wanted a comment was using the region map template (i.e. the colored boxes before the district names and descriptions) on a city article. Does that confuse anybody? or is everything happy dandy? Sertmann 09:20, 6 November 2008 (EST)

Oh, Chicago already does that, and that's a star, so I think you're probably good to go. =) LtPowers 16:44, 6 November 2008 (EST)
How do you do that Sertmann? I would love that for Edmonton. Happy first day of snow in Edmonton, ee talk 14:48, 11 November 2008 (EST).

Main article and districts[edit]

Just wanted to tip my hat at the work being done on the maps and the districts, they're looking great. Alas, the main page still needs a lot of work, with tons and tons of pointers to top attractions etc needed... Jpatokal 03:12, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Why thank you Mr Patokallio. My plan is to get the districts up to speed first, and then attack the front page. Which is why i nominated this for Collaboration of the Month sometime next year, cause I haven't got the first clue on how to save the main page. Also in talks with Mark on doing the remaining district maps as a Opensteetmap.org import in connection with that. Who knows, maybe it can reach WTPress standard sometime in the future Sertmann 03:28, 13 November 2008 (EST)
I'd like to say some thing similar. Sertmann, you have done a splendid job and Copenhagen will be the best article-well articles, in the Eastern Hemisphere! Keep smiling, ee talk 10:31, 13 November 2008 (EST).
I've noticed that a number of attractions listed (see Art for example) have been separated out of their bullet points, and that all relevant information, location, opening times, contact phone numbers etc. has been removed. The sections are much more difficult to read in this format, plus you need to buy a guide book, which seems to defeat the whole point of Wikitravel! January 18th 2009 Spircle
Hmmmm I really don't know how to make it any clearer than writing "Complete listings can be found in the appropriate districts" and linking to the districts throughout the main article. Should that paragraph be copied into every subsection? a big disclaimer be written in the start of the article? or how do I make it more obvious? --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 13:13, 18 January 2009 (EST)
Apologies, I was used to finding all of the relevant information on the main page, and hadn't realised that it had since been sub-divided by district. There's an awful lot of text in the article, so it's easy to miss the link to the districts if you're only browsing one sub-section. I agree that it's probably best to leave it the way it is, rather than duplicating information, but if I get any better ideas, I'll let you know. Spircle 19 January 2009

Infoboxes[edit]

Swept in from the pub:

OK, this might be a bit specific for the pub, but I'd like some comments on the use of info boxes as I seem to be breaking the standard on some of my district articles

I don't think I've turned the article into something akin to wikipedia, which seems to be the main concern - the function is mainly to separate out content, that don't really warrant it's own article, but don't really mix well with the main content either. Christiania in particular is a special case, since it's essentially a city within the city, but doesn't offer sleeping options - and doesn't have enough content (as of now anyway) to work as a separate district (same case as the Vatican I suppose).

I'll sweep this into the Copenhagen talk page once I've gotten some comments, and please don't worry about the images on the Christianshavn district, They're there merely as a place holder, until I finish up the article.

--Stefan (sertmann) Talk 13:10, 27 November 2008 (EST)

My take is as follows. The Tivoli infobox is appropriate, though I do think it should be trimmed down a little more. The Christiania infobox would work better as a district article of Copenhagen-- the "must-have-a-place-to-sleep" rule doesn't have to be rigid when it comes to districts with plenty to see, do and eat. The Mølleå river infobox could go either way-- if there is enough interesting information to be added it could potentially make an itinerary article. Otherwise it ought to be pruned and reworded a bit so as not to take up quite so much space. Hope that helps! Texugo 07:43, 28 November 2008 (EST)

Credit Card[edit]

Since I am lazy, can someone mention that credit card without embedded SIM card or PIN code does not work in Copenhagen, I've been there twice in 2008, very few stores are willing to accept my Master Card or Visa Card. (Excepts on the shops in Stroget the tourist area), simular experiences in Malmo, Roskilde, Helsingor, Hillerod. Luckily it's a nation with low crime rate on tourists, I always ended up carry lots cash, but with every meal cost about 200 Kr in the restaurants, buy transportation fare on cash, I ended up have to run to bank all the time. It is very strange, I talked to customer services on both Visa and Master Card, they said this is not possible and should be accepted, but it is. Kyle 10:10, 8 January 2009 (PST)

Denmark is pretty unique since the entire system is build around a unrivalled domestic card, the Dankort, which is universally used for domestic purchases - the card are usually a double issue Dankort/visa, where the visa part is only used abroad. Because of this the system is build up differently than in other countries, and this means - yes - pin only, and pretty much that other cards than visa/mastercard is only accepted very few places. However you should be fine at restaurants as they use swipe terminals, but that is pretty much the only place you can get by without a pin. Stefan 15:01, 8 January 2009 (EST)
What I meant was to mention this credit card situation in the Article page, so bring cash, tourists! Kyle 17:15, 8 January 2009 (PST)
Yeah, I realized, only thing is I'm not sure it should be included - so I left the explanation here, for others to use. Is Visa/Mastercards with[out] a pin a common occurrence anywhere? I've certainly never heard about it before. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 11:38, 9 January 2009 (EST)
Bump, anyone?
It's spreading like cancer in Europe, but pretty much unknown elsewhere. Looking at my recent travels, it was ubiquitous in Finland, very common in Ireland, and unknown in eg. Germany, Luxembourg or anywhere in the Middle East/Asia. Some Singaporean banks are introducing it now though. See also Money#Credit cards. Jpatokal 13:06, 14 January 2009 (EST)
Just to clarify i meant withOUT a pin.... --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 13:38, 14 January 2009 (EST)
America still does not issue chip and pin and in fact many American cards are issues without a PIN at all, particularly business cards (presumably to stop people withdrawing cash with them). Unfortunately more and more places in CPH are switching to using the new black and red boxes that can only be used with a PIN. The clerk will have only two options - to let you enter the pin or to cancel the transaction. You used to be able to buy tickets from DSB (the train company) using a PINless card, but now they have also changed (late 2009).

Status[edit]

Work that needs be done before we can elevate Copenhagen to guide status

District Status Missing
Front Page Star Maybe write a theatre overview in DO section, though most performances are in Danish.
Amager Star copy editing
Christiania Guide a comprehensive understand section, map, plus research on Cafe Oasen, Marzbar, Sommerbutikken and Yak Celica.
Christianshavn Guide Section introductions
Frederiksberg Guide Expand and complete get in/get around + Værnedamsvej sections
Indre by Guide Could use some section introductions
Northern suburbs Guide Shopping section is the only remaining issue
Nørrebro Guide Section introductions
Vestegnen Guide Could use some introductions, map is missing.
Vesterbro Guide
Østerbro Guide fix map

Currency[edit]

This article, and district-articles, is not according to MoS, regarding currency. ViMy 11:56, 15 May 2009 (EDT)

Damn you! I was really hoping no one would notice :) There is no established national standard for the Danish currency; Kroner/Kr/Kr./kr/,-/DKR/DKK are all used to varying degrees in local shops, but online DKK is almost exclusively used, so personally I think it's the one that makes most sense to use here. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 18:06, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
I just checked through a lot of other Scandinavian cities, and NOK,SEK,ISK and EEK seemed to be used in all of them, maybe it comes natural, as a way to distinguish what sort of kroner/kronor we are talking about. I'll put this up in the currency talk page. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 18:13, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
Sorry, to create a probem :) But it was a minor issue that had to be solved, since Copenhagen is soon up to Star-status. ViMy 11:35, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
There is an ISO standard. It is DKK [7] elgaard 05:07, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Literature[edit]

I was wondering what the literature section will be for. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:32, 23 May 2009 (EDT).

Womex[edit]

Want to incorporate something about Womex [8]? – cacahuate talk 16:44, 25 May 2009 (EDT)

Money[edit]

Shouldn't the "money" section of Cope be moved to Buy? Globe-trotter 06:24, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

Recent edits[edit]

Someone seems hell bent on introducing inaccuracies around the Copenhagen article; introducing false exchange rates and inflating prices unrealisticly, also it seems like the weird .com -> .co.uk changer guy is back. I may not be very keen on Wikitravel anymore, but I'm not to happy about all my work being demoted either, So I'll try to check through the Copenhagen articles once a week or so, if unsure please leave edits unpatrolled and let me or Claus run through the changes. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 09:56, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

Glad to see you're still checking in! I too would hate to see the great work you put into these articles fall into decline. --Peter Talk 15:43, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

EDIT: Swebus tickets can no longer be purchased on the bus. Source: http://www.swebus.se/SwebusExpress_com/Customer_Service/FAQ/Buy-a-ticket/

The name of the place[edit]

Say, should we not create a redirect for Kopenhaven or something? --Faust 15:06, 12 October 2010 (EDT)

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