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you forgot to mention that even though most people are taught English in schools most student don't even know the basics, they don't even want to learn it. i used to live in cartagena and trust mee very few people will talk in english and the ones that do,do it jokingly without even trying to sound correct or just say words that they can not even pronounce.
 
you forgot to mention that even though most people are taught English in schools most student don't even know the basics, they don't even want to learn it. i used to live in cartagena and trust mee very few people will talk in english and the ones that do,do it jokingly without even trying to sound correct or just say words that they can not even pronounce.
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I think the warning box should be put into the "Stay Safe" section rather than right at the top. Colombia has issues but it is a great place to visit. A great big red warning sign right at the top of the article is quite imposing and deterrent. [[User:Aidan|Aidan]] 16:43, 3 February 2010 (EST)

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Respect and Ethnicity

The section on Respect should be updated to give consistent advice about pointing out your country or ethnicity, regardless of your region of origin or ancestry.

Currently, this advice is inconsistent. In the current version of this article, the advice to east and southeast Asians is that pointing out one's ethnicity is difficult to do. At the same time, the advice to Europeans and white people from other world regions is that pointing out one's ethnicity is pretty easy to do.

This advice ought to be updated to tell tourists of all regions that a gentle explanation of one's country or ethnicity is fairly easy to do, and will easily be understood by most people right now in Colombia. -- 190.71.219.242 12:31, 22 January 2010 (EST)


I will add a small note saying that the 'chino' used for kids has a completely different origin, just to help Chinese tourists be more confortable.201.216.62.233 17:42, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

I made several minor corrections. This page could be moved, almost in its entirety, to a new one called "Tourism in Colombia".

My friend, this is not Wikipedia, this is Wikitravel — a different site! Jpatokal 05:38, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)

Thanks, Jpatokal. I deleted my rant, feeling it was stupid. I did not even know Wikitravel existed... another newbie example for the records.


For future reference the Wikitravel:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Colombia/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.


Although there is still a certain amount of violence in remoter areas, the government now has a greater presence in the country and guerrilla attacks, which used to occur on a regular basis, are now far less common. It is now possible to travel by road and explore areas that would have been closed to tourists in the past. This is particularly true during the longer vacations, when the government organises convoys, escorted by troops, along popular routes.

And travelling in Colombia is definitely worthwhile. From Bogota and its temperate climate 2,600 metres above sea level, a drive of one or two hours North, South, East or West can take you to landscapes which are as diverse as they are beautiful. To the East are the oriental plains which stretch out far beyond the horizon with little modulation. To the North are the more rugged contours of the higher Andean region. To the South the weather is sub-tropical and has flora and fauna concommitant with this, and to the West one also finds hot weather with corresponding vegetation.


San Gil

I don't know where to put San Gil. I'll fix it later.


     Put it under "Other Destinations"

Removed Administrative divisions

I removed the Administrative divisions. I don't think they are much of a added value for travellers -- Ronald 20:27, 26 Nov 2005 (EST)

I have no problem with this directly. But when you did that, you made a bunch of articles like Caqueta inaccessible by "drilling down" from Columbia into its subregions. If you want to move the Admin divisions into the respective sub-regions of Columbia (the ones listed in the Regions section), that'd be just fine. Alternatively, if you're sure you don't need the Admin divisions ever at all, then vfd them when you remove the section. Thanks! -- Colin 22:33, 26 Nov 2005 (EST)
Oops I didn't realise that. I think it's better to use the regions. Most of the Admin divs have only one or none interresting places/cities for tourists. Besides that they have the same names all over SA so it's only confusing. I'll sort it out when I'm back home in a few months. -- Ronald 15:19, 5 Jan 2006 (EST)

Scopolamine

In recent years, there have been reports of scopolamine (a date-rape drug that is absded to the victim and absorbed through the skin. Scopolamine makes the victim highly open to suggestion, allowing the attacker to use it. As it is powdered, it can be blown into the victim's face or placed on a piece of paper which is haner to confiscate your wallet, keys, or anything else they may want. Always be cautious, especially when approached by strangers.

"absded" is unintelligible, and "haner" could be "harder" or "handed", neither of which makes sense. Anyone have a clue what this means? -phma 23:56, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

On second thought: "haner" may be a sentence splice, from something like "handed to the victim in order". -phma 23:59, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

From the history: Ronald 15:28, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)
In recent years, there have been reports of scopolamine (a date-rape drug that is absorbed through the skin) being used in powdered form against unwary tourists; it can be blown into the victim's face or placed on a piece of paper which is handed to the victim and absorbed through the skin. Scopolamine makes the victim highly open to suggestion, allowing the attacker to confiscate your wallet, keys, or anything else they may want. Always be cautious, especially when approached by strangers.
Sorry, this just pegs my bullshit-o-meter. Scopolamine suppresses motion sickness in small doses, but causes severe hallucinations and death in large ones. A carefully measured dose slipped into a drink, perhaps, but blown onto the face or, better yet, absorbed through paper!? Any cites for this? Jpatokal 05:38, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)

A question: isn't Chile another country that is limited to both oceans? If you look well on the map, you can see some islands that are clearly in the Atlantic Ocean.

Regions

We definitely don't need to divide Columbia up into 30-some parts, even if they are the official divisions... It's not that big of a country, dividing it up into 4-5 chunks would make it much more digestible to the traveler. If one or more of those chunks is then too large, it can be further divided... Anyone know the country well enough to take a stab at that? – cacahuate talk 16:18, 1 April 2007 (EDT)


Cities

I removed a few of the cities to get the list down to 9, per WT policy - if you think others are more deserving than the ones that I left, feel free to swap them out, but please don't let the list get larger than 9...

For reference, here are the ones that I removed:

  • Armenia - the miracle city, Quindio
  • Bucaramanga - the City of the Parks
  • Cali - Heaven's branch, Valle del Cauca
  • Cúcuta - the most active border in Latin America. Sometimes called "The city without borders". Located in the Norte de Santander Department.
  • Ibagué - the musical city of Colombia, capital of Tolima
  • Pereira - The Pearl of the Otún, Risaralda
  • Popayán - the white city, Cauca
  • Tunja

Ports and harbors:

cacahuate talk 16:18, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

You could've left Cali in at least, after all it's the third largest city in Colombia. It won't hurt if you list 10 cities instead of nine.
I removed mention of the road from Santa fe to Turbo being safe - it's not. Chris, PaisaTours.com

you also forgot to mention

you forgot to mention that even though most people are taught English in schools most student don't even know the basics, they don't even want to learn it. i used to live in cartagena and trust mee very few people will talk in english and the ones that do,do it jokingly without even trying to sound correct or just say words that they can not even pronounce.

Warning Box

I think the warning box should be put into the "Stay Safe" section rather than right at the top. Colombia has issues but it is a great place to visit. A great big red warning sign right at the top of the article is quite imposing and deterrent. Aidan 16:43, 3 February 2010 (EST)

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