Where do you draw the line
Swept in from pub:
While adding internal links to some dive sites, I found that a number of links which I had not expected to work, did. A bit of investigation shows that the whole Cape Peninsula appears to be excessively subdivided.
The problem appears to be with what constitutes a city.
Officially Cape Town is the only city on the Cape Peninsula, but there are destinations splitting it up as small as Boulders, which is a beach (attraction?) in Seaforth, a suburb of Simon's Town, which though it was historically a town with it's own municipality, has been a suburb of Cape Town for decades. Cape Town is certainly large enough and spread out enough to justify districtification, but it seems to have been broken up too much. Many of the current suburbs would be big enough to stand alone except for them being parts of the mother city.
I dont have the experience, the time, or the interest to deal with this, as I am already extremely busy with my core interest of dive guides, but I can have a go at tagging articles for merging once I know how best to deal with them.
- Atlantic Seaboard is either a district of Cape Town or a sub region of the Cape Peninsula, but either way, all the "cities" in it are suburbs of Cape Town.
- Somerset West, Strand and Gordon's Bay are also officially part of Cape Town, as the same bureaucracy administrates them all (Cape Town City Council). Should they be considered districts of Cape Town?
- The issue is complicated by the Table Mountain National Park, which is also on the Cape Peninsula, and can reasonably be a destination as you can sleep there. Parts of Cape Town are separated from each other by bits of park.Its a can of worms, but will have to be dealt with some time.
Cheers, Pbsouthwood 01:25, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
- Hmmm, I'm at loss here, many of these towns (especially in False Bay) are quite extensive, and merging them would require a fair bit of sorting as well as deleting unattractive hotels and restaurants of little or no interest to travellers (else there would be way to many). If anything it should me merged into either a False Bay or a Cape Peninsular and False Bay guide, with the amount of content, merging it in with Cape Town is infeasible. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 11:57, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
The point I was trying to make is that Cape Town is a large city, made up of a large group of contiguous suburbs, and a scattering of disconnected suburbs. The disconnected suburbs are sometimes in small connected groups, and as the city grows, more and more of these disconnects are becoming connected.
There are several possible ways of dealing with this connectivity or lack thereof, and the manual of style and definitions for regions do not provide much useful guidance.
- All suburbs of a city which is officially under one management are considered to be sub-article districts of the city. In this case Simon's Town, Hout Bay, Fish Hoek, Noordhoek, Scarborough, Somerset West, Gordon's Bay etc would be districts, not independant cities, as would City bowl, Waterfront, Observatory, Tamboerskloof, Bellville, Parow etc
- All contiguous suburbs would be considered parts of the city, grouped into convenient districts, such as Northern suburbs, Southern suburbs, Helderberg, Tygerberg etc as commonly used by the locals, and the disconnects would be separate cities.
- The status quo, in which there is no apparent pattern, and neighbourhoods within suburbs have their own independant articles, such as Boulders, which is a small area in Simon's Town, which is part of a group with Glencairn and Dido Valley, which is administratively part of the Southern Suburbs district of Cape Town
To complicate matters a bit, Simon's Town, as an example, would be in the False Bay region, and also in the Cape Peninsula region, while Hout Bay is in Atlantic Seaboard and Cape Peninsula, while Strand and Gordon's Bay are both in False Bay and Helderberg, and all of them are in Cape Town. Its a can of worms. Pbsouthwood 13:25, 20 October 2009 (EDT)