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== Satellite phones in Australia ==
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The ''Stay safe'' and ''Contact'' sections mention renting a satellite phone may be a good idea for trips into the outback. While renting (or buying) Iridium phones might be a bit expensive, it would be good to note that in the next few months (or even weeks) [http://www.satellitephonefaq.com/thuraya/network/coverage-2008/ Thuraya coverage] should extend and cover Australia also. Thuraya is much cheaper than Iridium or even Globalstar (which is not a good option anyway at the moment due to technical problems) and would probably be the best choice for most travelers.[[User:Jamboo|Jamboo]] 09:26, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

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Respect

Someone that is not to tired to do it can add respect for australia. --212.247.27.92 17:24, 20 November 2006 (EST)

CIA World Factbook

For future reference the CIA World Factbook 2002 import is now at Talk:Australia/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

Hmmm... Karen suspiciously removed the military information, and I'm no longer able to invade Australia. B-) -- Evan 05:46, 8 Aug 2003 (PDT)

lol! I'll be removing a lot more when I get around to it... :0

You can now find it all again at Talk:Australia/CIA World Factbook 2002 import - Huttite 11:34, 16 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Timezone

Err, Australia has a range of timezones, much the US (being the same size and all...). Seems kind of silly to put just AEST timezone there? (especially since its wrong right now with daylight savings...)

Links removed

The below links were removed from the main article. Do they belong on WikiTravel? -- Ilkirk 20:51, 24 Nov 2005 (EST)

MAPS

  • Bepacked very fast accurate map of Australia GPS read out, distance tool, search for public domain data and other travel related information.
  • Geoscience Australia Geoscience Australia is Australia's national agency for geoscience research and geospatial information.
  • The Map Reading Guide is an ideal manual for a wide range of map users, and is also an excellent and simplistic introduction to topographic maps, suitable for anyone with an interest in maps.

Central Tablelands New South Wales Weather

Other Cities

Australia is the BIG country. It has a whole continent to itself! We cannot have every city listed here. What should be the criteria for listing? Cities with an international airport? Airport hubs? Key tourist cities? Ports? Surely it should be limited to the places an international traveler should first encounter.

Other places can be pushed down to the state pages and then down to their region pages. Like I have done with Ararat, Victoria. -- Huttite 23:01, 28 Dec 2005 (EST)

Sydney has one of the world’s most cosmopolitan societies. They have an extraordinary variety of restaurants, religions, community centers and cultural activities that can be found throughout the city. Tourists have enjoyed going to the Auburn Mosque – a lavish mosque in a Turkish community, Lakemba – a living monument to Islam, Little Italy – home to the Italian community, and the Irish Parade – Held on March 17th of every year (Brass & McKenzie 40).

Hitchhiking is illegal

Anyone know under what statute hitchhiking is illegal in Aust? And what the wording of the law is? Nurg 01:54, 14 Jan 2006 (EST)

Sounds odd to me, I can't Google up a single reference for this. Jpatokal 00:50, 15 Jan 2006 (EST)
Some research I did on this subject because it intrigued me and I had heard that it was illegal in some way. What I can find is rather obscure and suggests hitchiking is legal in Australia, but you can only hitchhike while standing on a footpath. What is illegal is the standing in or by the roadway while flaging down a ride!
  • The Northern Territory Government website, under (Australian) Traffic Regulations, says it is an offence to obstruct traffic [1] if soliciting ... a ride ... from within the roadway, the roadway includes a road-related area but does not include a foot path. In other words you can hitchhike in Australia provided you stay on the footpath.
  • Northern Territory Police say nothing about hitchhiking being illegal, however.
  • Queensland Police [2] say do not hitchike, warn drivers not to pick up hitchhikers and say it is an offense to hitchike from a road - though do not say under what law (traffic?) - which seems to imply the Northern Territory law is an Australian traffic law.
  • This link [3] also suggests it is illegal in Queensland - which given that state's conservative nature it probably would be publicised as that anyway, whatever the law really said.

This link [4] also suggests hitchhiking is illegal in some Australian states and is strongly discouraged nationally.

  • South Australia Police say [5] Avoid hitchhiking but do not say it is illegal there.
  • West Australia Police [6] say nothing about it in information for backpackers.
  • New South Wales say nothing about hitchhiking.
  • Tasmania Police websites down but Tasmania Online [7] search only returns one, non-government document, which seemed to be pro-hitchhiking, probably meaning it is not illegal there.
  • Victoria Police and Government websites were down when I checked but as that state is hot on road safety they probably would police any hitchhiking law if they had one.
  • Australian Federal Police website was also down, so no ACT or national picture.
I think the conclusion I have come to, barring more authorative information, is hitchhiking is not actually illegal in Australia but it is a traffic offence to stand on or by the road when you try to get/ask for a ride, unless you are standing on the footpath. If there is no footpath, you cannot ask for a ride from the roadside, though if somebody stopped and offered you a lift from the road that you were walking beside that is probably not illegal for them to do, assuming they could stop legally. -- Huttite 06:48, 15 Jan 2006 (EST)


Thanks Huttite, that's great. Nurg 03:59, 16 Jan 2006 (EST)

Domestic Flights

Can anyone recommend a site for searching cheap domestic fares within Australia? Most of the sites I'm using in America (travelocity, expedia, kayak) only know of Qantas. --DropDeadGorgias 11:09, 1 Feb 2006 (EST)

Sounds like you're after something like http://www.flightcentre.com.au/

Try http://www.webjet.com.au

Also Try http://www.eflight.com.au

Also check out: Cheap Flights

Uh.... Say again

"Red Back spiders are also a major risk in Australia, people have reportedly been carried away by carpets of Red Back spiders"
Yeah right. I would love to see a source for this.
This can be corroborated here. Alternatively, you can plunge forward and make any needed corrections yourself. -- Ryan 21:34, 23 February 2006 (EST)
Since the anonymous user didn't take the bait I've removed that paragraph. To others, if something looks wrong please just go ahead and fix it, that's how a Wiki works. -- Ryan 14:27, 3 March 2006 (EST)

Ha! Sounds like the "drop-bears"!

Also in this category might be... "the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) (including Jervis Bay)" -- what? I don't believe it is actually officially part of the ACT? I did hear it was a separate commonwealth territory but the point is certainly moot since the ACT achieved self-government? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure enough about this that I'm going to remove the reference for now -- Stephen Mok 16:29, 27 May 2006 (EDT)

power

Hey - I was just wondering what the power plug situation is like in australia - i assume it is different from the american two-prong plug... might be good to include

Electrical systems -- Colin 02:26, 21 March 2006 (EST)

Globally significant cities

Refering to the introduction. Why is Perth not listed alongside Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Canberra. As far as I'm concerned Perth is a more globally significant city than Adelaide. Perth is larger and faster growing than Adelaide. Perth is on the Indian ocean and is closer to international capitals like Jakarta and Singapore. Adelaide faces Antartica. Not meaning to offend anyone from the beautiful city of Adelaide I just thought I'd try and get some facts and add some equality to this article. Is there any reason why Perth should not be added.

Mobile service

"Those towns that do have GSM coverage are usually served only by Telstra." - this is not completely correct as there are many towns that only have Optus coverage (I have visited and driven through many), but this above statement (modified) would be true for CDMA coverage. Information that may also be worth linking: [Mobile phone coverage in Australia] & [Mobile Roaming in Australia] (These government sources are updated fairly often) 131.172.4.45 09:19, 29 October 2006 (EST) (wikipedia:User:MrMabs)

More on deadly animals

"The Red Back spider (easily identified by a red mark on its abdomen), is more common but not life threatening."

The Red Back spider bite can be fatal. It's just no one has been killed by one for a long time because there's antivenom and the poison is slow acting. I'd in no way suggest that a red back spider bite should be taken lightly though. It's probably the equivalent of the widow spider in the US. We just have more of a sense of humour when it comes to deadly animals over here. So if it takes a day to kill you, you can get to the hospital and you'll be right. I'd suggest someone changes it.

Secondly you forgot the paralysis tick. It's probably a more common one than many of the others. Though again you'll end up in hospital and they'll figure out whats wrong before you die. Couldn't find that much information on it on the internet. But from what I know unlike most ticks the ones on the east coast of Australia bring on slow paralysis over a matter of days. If untreated or not removed they can cause full respiratory failure and be fatal. Though this is far more common in animals, if you get one somewhere you don't notice it, it can do a lot of damage.


It might be good to add something about the huntsman on the deadly spider bit or somewhere too. I know it's harmless, but almost all tourists when they see it for the first time assume it's the most dangerous creature in the country :).


Please Wikitravel:Plunge forward! -- Ryan 11:24, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Weather

It would be nice to have info on weather around Australia.--209.89.209.144 12:13, 10 March 2007 (EST)

Current weather? Or types of weather in Australia? Jamboo 05:19, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Public transport lines

Someone has put a great deal of effort into listing every public transport route in Australia, but the main country article is really not the place for that - rather than listing every route for a country, it is more useful to list main ways into and out of a city in the city articles. The rationale is twofold: one, a user visiting Brisbane will be using the Brisbane article - they aren't then going to refer back to the Australia article to figure out how to move on. And second, listing every route for a country is difficult to maintain, and it makes the country article much less readable. Alternatively, articles are occasionally created such as Rail travel in Europe that offer detailed discussions of how to get around a particular area, and that might be a possibility for this information.

I've archived the original work at Talk:Australia/Public transport lines. -- Ryan • (talk) • 13:28, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

Australia as a continent

Although Australia is often called a continent, this is usually to discredit it as the largest island in the world......it's huge in comparison to most islands (3 times the size of Greenland).... but technically the continent of Australia also includes Papua New Guinea and New Zealand. Can we agree to drop this descriptor? There are plenty of other --- more correct descriptives to use about Australia. Thanks! 216.204.20.170 10:02, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

In textbooks, it is classified as a continent, and I've always interpreted that as an honorific, not an attempt by rabid pro-Greenland factions to steal what rightly belongs to fair Oz. Gorilla Jones 11:00, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
I'm happy enough to keep referring to it as a continent: even the strict geographical truth is not quite what 216.204.20.170 alleges in any case: New Zealand is not on the Australian continental shelf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_(continent) However, I don't claim expertise here: I've never got into so much as a calm discussion, let alone a fight, with anyone trying to deny Australia the status of an island Hypatia 09:52, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

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Satellite phones in Australia

The Stay safe and Contact sections mention renting a satellite phone may be a good idea for trips into the outback. While renting (or buying) Iridium phones might be a bit expensive, it would be good to note that in the next few months (or even weeks) Thuraya coverage should extend and cover Australia also. Thuraya is much cheaper than Iridium or even Globalstar (which is not a good option anyway at the moment due to technical problems) and would probably be the best choice for most travelers.Jamboo 09:26, 22 March 2008 (EDT)

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