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It would seem to me that a great advantage of a WikiTravel over any other travel guide is that WikiTravel can be as up-to-date as possible. But how do I weave time sensitive information into a general article such as this one? For instance, it might be interesting to know that Amsterdam is building a new subway system, and that certain parts of town are less easily accessible than is usual. ---Branko



-:Branko: it'd probably be a great thing to put in the top part of "Get around", since it's really a getting-around-locally question. Sound reasonable? --Evan 20:16, 9 Dec 2003 (PST)

-or a section for "travel advisories" that are valid for a finite time period, for instance Athens during the Olympics, or Amsterdam from now until the estimated subway system completion date. Can the wiki be set up to automatically remove or archive expired travel avisories (for convenience and clarity)?

Link to Virtual travel through Amsterdam?

What you think about a link to this page? It shows Amsterdam on Google-Maps, with user-selected photos from the highlights of Amsterdam projected on map. It is perfect for a virtual tour through the city.

My suggestion: put a link under 'Do', for example "Visit Amsterdam [1], a virtual tour through the city". I think this link would give value for people who want to visit Amsterdam. What do you think? RonaldR 07:06, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Sorry, we have rather strict External links policies, so that would not be appropriate. Why not mention it on Wikitravel Extra? Jpatokal 08:36, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Add 'Prostitutes' to the "Do" list

They're one of A-Dam's biggest draws and certainly a popular pass-time among many tourists.

-Jackmont Dec 26, 2006

Biking in Amsterdam

We might want to put all biking information together in one paragraph, since now you can find info about biking at least 3 different paragraphs: - On foot and bike - Do - Stay safe --bartvanslobbe

Well done

I don't know if it's okay to put 'welldones' on the talk pages, but I don't know where else to say it! This page is fantastic, very informative, exactly what a good guide should be. Thankyou!

The best way to say you love a page is to propose it on Wikitravel:Destination of the Month candidates. April in Amsterdam, anyone? Jpatokal 11:36, 5 Mar 2005 (EST)

Sombody added this link

Maybe some Wikitraveler passing through Amsterdam could check this out. I don't know if it should get its own article here or just a long paragraph in the Get Out section, as usual it depends on having places to sleep.

De Zaanse Schans.

-- Mark 09:46, 22 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Strippenkaart

Is the strippenkaart really allowed to use for the NS trains in Amsterdam??? There are not many trains within Amsterdam... and I also never heard of this before. The NS website doesn't mention this.

It's only on some routes (complements the metro system), There is a page on the NS site (Dutch) listing the line sections for Amsterdam and other cities.. Go to www.ns.nl, choose 'nederland' at the top, Then 'Kaartjes' in the blue horizontal navbar. Now in the yellow navbar on ther left choose 'Kaartsooten' and then 'Speciale treinkaartjes'. Scroll down through the list in the main page and select 'Strippenkaart en Sterabonnement'. Easy..not!
The URL I see is: http://www.ns.nl/serhvlet/Satellite?cid=1076057854926&pagename=www.ns.nl%2FArtikel%2FOverig_www.ns.nl&p=1075382368841&lang=nl&c=Artikel but I have no confidence that this will continue to work.
-- EasyTarget 18:46, 18 May 2005 (EDT)

Yes you can travel with a strippenkaart on any NS train within the Amsterdam Boundaries (as long as you have enough "zones"). I am quite sure about this as I often do it myself to get from the amsterdam burbs to the inner city. Hraicom 05:39, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Hotel Krasnapolsky

Does anyone else actually have first hand experience with Krasnapolsky? I stayed there a couple of years ago and was not impressed. The location is great of course, but I had to wait a long time to get the room, service was generally slow, our room and the whole non-smoking floor was stinking from cannabis smoking. That is why I did not put it on Wikitravel, but maybe it was just a bad day? --elgaard 08:25, 2 Nov 2005 (EST)

Must have been a bad day, although if you were visiting during the height of the season, I can understand. The Kras is a five star luxury hotel that starts at $275 per night. If it could happen at the Kras, it could happen at any of the luxury venues. However, one must remember that pot smoking in the Netherlands is still actually illegal, though highly tolerated.Seth1066 23:59, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Stay safe: begging

In the "stay safe" section, it says: "Also ignore beggars since they can be quite rude and giving them money is not allowed." I find this remark quite rude itself; beggars include many a homeless person, who survives this way. But perhaps more relevantly, the assertion that it "is not allowed" to give them money strikes me as very odd and most probably simply incorrect. I've never heard of this. The "Algemene Plaatselijke Verordening" of the city of Amsterdam (http://biodata.asp4all.nl/centralestad/2006/2796/2796.html) does note that begging itself is forbidden, but that doesn't mean that _giving_ a beggar money is forbidden. --Joost 19:11, 22 January 2006 (GMT)

Perhaps the difficult distinction can be made between junkies and real homeless people. Junkies use most of the money they get to buy drugs, they are usually also involved in theft, and worse robbery. Homeless people usually aren't criminal in the sense that their crimes (begging, sleeping outside) are victimless crimes. In general junkies are very thin, they walk with a limp, and are often a lot more in your face, and often unfortunately from a specific ethnic group which you'll learn to spot soon enough when you're there. Real homeless people look as they do everywhere in the west, often with beard and carrying lots of bags, etc. Actually I think I'll put some of this in the safety section. --PeterW

For User 24.161.100.255

It looks a bit weird if an article talks about something and then suddenly contains a statement stating that the preceding or following sentence is not right in some way. If you feel you know better then just go ahead and change the text.

Concerning the smartshops, I used to work for an organisation called Unity who work issues to do with drugs and youth, for them I went around visiting smartshops and quizzing them on their knowledge of things like the MAO (Mono Amino Oxidase) inhibitors they were selling. I found for instance that only in CD did they have accurate information on the real dangers involved with these substances when consumed within 24 hours of also consuming ubiquitous things as aged cheese and red wine. Furthermore CD is the oldest smartshop in the world, having actually invented the entire concept 'smartshop' in '94, they really are the most professional about selling these sometimes risky products. PeterW 12:47, 1 April 2006 (EST)

They don't "claim to" do this honestly and responsibly anywhere, they just do. I've seen other shops sellling products which can be seriously toxic, like the MAO inhibitors mentioned above, firstly without knowing what the hell they were talking about and secondly without any kind of warning. In CD I've seen irresponsible first-timers return completely distraught because they're under the influence and being taken care of, I'm certain any other shop would send them away and tell them to go to a hospital.

What about the touristic card "I amsterdam"?

Do you think it's worthy? [2]. From the website Amsterdam.info: "The Amsterdam card is your entrance ticket to a long list of Amsterdam museums, city's attractions and all buses, trams and metro in Amsterdam. Please note, train tickets to and from the airport are not included in the product." It costs EUR 33 for 24 hours, EUR 43 for 48h and EUR 53 for 72h. I think it would be good to include a section about this pass. I am staying in Amsterdam for one week, and I decided to buy the Museemkart instead, so that I can go to the museums without rushing to see everything in 48hs - and also to force myself to come back at some point in the summer, as the museum card is valid for one year. --Mairabc 07:32, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Linkspamming in the Hotel section

Hotel website easytobook . com frequently abuses the hotel section for linkspamming.

I have just removed their links to the krasnapolsky and Victoria hotel.

Thanks! I accidentally rolled back your change; the official links looked a lot less plausible than the third-party ones. Anyways, they're currently pointing to the official ones. --Evan 09:34, 11 January 2007 (EST)

Camping

Why no information regarding camping in the Amsterdam area?

You don't want to camp there. There's nowhere for it.

Coffeeshops

Why is there no section for coffeeshops as there is for places to drink and eat. Would that screw up the overall format?

Yes it would. The idea is that the general outline should be consistent with all of the other articles, and the subject of coffeeshops is pretty well covered without resorting to breaking the outline. -- Mark 03:49, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Wrong Formatting on Hotel Section

Noticed that there is bad formatting on most of the hotel links. For example:

  • Amsterdam budget hotel the Crown between Red Light District and CS.. [3] [4]

When I get time I will convert them into correct sleep format, if anyone else wants to help?

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