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From 24 October 2006 until 6 November 2006 each registered user can vote for one (1) destination. No negative votes are allowed, but you can change your vote if you want to.  Rules:

  • Votes from the first round don't count: you have to vote again.
  • Only votes from logged-in users count.
  • Comments, maybes etc don't count. No qualifiers: a "weak yes" is a yes.
  • Cut-off time is November 6th 04:00 UTC (midnight EDT).
  • If there's a tie, voting continues until a tie-breaker is cast.

Nominees[edit]

Casablanca[edit]

Casablanca seems like an ideal destination and needs drastic improvements on every language version. It also lies in on the Mediterranean, easy to get to from Europe.

Transportation/Once there: Taxis, walking,

  • Visa: People from these far off galaxies are exempt from a visa up to 90 days: Algeria - Andorra - Argentina - Australia – Austria – Bahrain – Belgium – Brazil – Bulgaria - Canada – Chile – Congo Popular Republic – Croatia - Cyprus - Czech Republic - Denmark – Estonia - Finland – France - GermanyGreat Britain – Greece – Guinea (Conakry) - Hongkong - Hungary – Iceland – Indonesia – Ireland – Italy – Ivory Coast – Japan – Kuwait – Latvia - Libya – Liechtenstein – Lithuania - Luxemburg – Mali – Malta – Mexico - Monaco – NetherlandsNew Zealand – Niger – Norway – Oman – Peru – Philippines – Poland - Puerto Rico – Qatar – Russian Federation - Saudi Arabia – Senegal – Singapore (They can stay one month without visa) – Slovakia - Slovenia - South Korea – Spain – Sweden – Switzerland – Tunisia – Turkey – United Arab Emirates – United States of America - Venezuela.
  • Closest airport or rail connection: The rail station Casa-Voyageurs [1] (National rail company) has connections to/from en:Fes, en:Tangier, en:Rabat. The international airport is Mohammed V International Airport (IATA: CMN, ICAO: GMMN). CMN serves flights from Frankfurt, Paris, Brussels, Barcelona, and Cairo as an example.
  • Suggested taxi services: Taxi7on7 [2]
  • Suggested hotel: Ibis Moussafir Casablanca [3]. Cost per night is just over $50 USD.
  • Suggested meeting place: Ibis Moussafir Casablanca
  • Issues:

First-round votes[edit]

These are left for reference: please do not edit or add votes.

  • Yes. I'm a little worried about the en: description, which gives Casablanca about 1 day's worth of sights, but there's an awful lot in Morocco to visit, and I think this is a good place to get started. --Evan 10:31, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Easily reachable on LCCs from Europe too. Jpatokal 11:34, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Easy to reach and cheap. Many other places of interest in the country. Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes - Also, should we want we could even venture out to Rabat for a day trip since it's only a two hour train ride. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 15:50, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No, but Been there and there really is only 1 day worth of stuff to see. I think I'd be behind another en:Morocco destination first. The only upside to Casablanca is the international airport, so if we were using it as a basecamp I think I would be more behind it. Maj 13:33, 11 October 2006 (EDT)
    • Comment and suggestion: The reason I suggested Casablanca is due to the international airport. I think it would be wise to make Casablanca our "base" (point of arrival/departure). However, we'll spend one or two day(s) in Casablanca, then venture onto Rabat and Fes or Tangier. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire)
      • Yes. You've convinced me. Maj 15:33, 23 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Would be more suitable once we've done one or two of these get-togethers and worked the bugs out. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
We're going to have five months to plan the trip by the the time we have a definite destination so I doubt the bugs would be overwhelming. Morocco allows our Polish, Hungarian, Brazilian friends to visit without being required to obtain a visa like they would need if traveling to the U.S. I'm assuming this would be a fairly convenient location for Jani and any of our Asian/Indian Wikitravellers since Jani said yes to this location. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 17:01, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

Second-round votes[edit]

Yes - --Mikeschneider 11:36, 27 October 2006 (EDT)

Heraklion[edit]

Heraklion is a city on the Greek island of Crete. It's an inexpensive flight from en:Athens and there are a lot of vacation promotional flights. The city is manageable (~275K inhabitants) and there are a number of side-trips around the island.

Transportation/Once there

  • Visa: Citizens from the EU countries, Iceland, Lichtenstein, Norway and Switzerland need a valid passport or valid ID card. Citizens from Andorra, Argentina, Australia, Bolivia, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Israel, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Monaco, New Zealand, The Holy See (Vatican), Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, South Korea, USA, Uruguay, Venezuela will need a valid passport. Otherwise you need a visa.

Closest airport or rail connection:

  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:

Issues:

First-round votes[edit]

These are left for reference: please do not edit or add votes.

  • Yes. Crete is, once again, an island, making it a relatively easy destination to cover completely. For North Americans, Europeans, and Middle Easterners it's fairly easy to get to. Should be very pretty in late April. --Evan 10:25, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Easy to reach, and nice weather in April. Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

Second-round votes[edit]

  • Yes I'm going to have to vote for Crete. On the odd chance that we manage to attend with our new baby who will be one month old at the time then Crete seems like it ought to be easier to get to for us than either Morocco or the USA. -- Mark 01:01, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 04:18, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes, after letting my wife break the tie over Puerto Rico. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:22, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

Puerto Rico[edit]

Puerto Rico is a big island in the Caribbean, approximately 100 mi (160 km) by 35 mi (56 km). Besides San Juan, with its historic Old San Juan and World Heritage site The Fortaleza [4], there are Ponce, with its castle and museums, and beaches at Fajardo, Cabo Rojo, and Humacao. The two smaller islands, Culebra and Vieques are probably worth a visit. Adventurous travelers might also go into the Cordillera mountain range in the interior, see the Bacardi distillery in en:Cataño, or go visit the Arecibo Observatory in Arecibo. The Caribbean National Forest (AKA El Yunque) is the only tropical rainforest in the US parks system; there is supposedly good diving off the shores. The PR tourism Web site, http://www.gotopuertorico.com/ , is also a good source for ideas.

  • Visa: As for USA [5] ...?
  • Transportation: Travelocity gives quotes starting at $400 roundtrip from New York City (very competitive route), $650 from Los Angeles, $900 from London, $850 from Frankfurt, $1700 from Singapore, $1450 from Tokyo, $2500 from Sydney
  • Suggested hotel: San Juan Beach Hotel [6], Hotel Miramar [7], Fajardo Inn [8], Coral Princess Inn [9].
  • Suggested meeting place: Many of the hotels can provide meeting spaces.

First-round votes[edit]

These are left for reference: please do not edit or add votes.

  • Yes, nice island close to the States a plus for most Wikitravellers. I sure hope this is how we're voting... (still)Totally Lost 23:02, 5 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes, a well-contained destination (can't beat an island for that) with an interesting mix of travel options. Lots of possible side-trips and travelers who want to see other parts of the Caribbean can move on from there easily. --Evan 10:20, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Neat spot, needs coverage. Maj 13:36, 11 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Seems nearly ideal for our goals. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

Second-round votes[edit]

  • Yes. I would go to any of these three destinations, but of the three I find Puerto Rico the most compelling. --Evan 14:45, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes It was one of my first ideas and I still think it's a good one. Maj 15:18, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Question: I figure San Juan will be the "base", but anyone have any ideas for where else we might go? -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 15:57, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
    • I've added some ideas above in the summary section. --Evan 13:50, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 02:47, 3 November 2006 (EST)
  • Yes. I just hope that the Easter (April 8, 2007) celebration and all associated travel chaos would be subsided by April 14, 2007... --Californiacondor 12:11, 6 November 2006 (EST)

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