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This is the archive of the first round of voting for the Wikitravel Get-together 2006.

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From 11 October 2006 until 24 October 2006 each registered user can vote for as many of the nominated destinations as they want. You can only vote for any destination once, and you can change your vote if you want to.  Rules:

  • Only votes from logged-in users count.
  • Points equals votes in favor minus votes against. Comments, maybes etc don't count. No qualifiers: a "weak yes" is a yes, a "strong no" is a no.
  • Cut-off time is October 24th 04:00 UTC (midnight EDT).
  • If there's a tie, voting continues until a tie-breaker is cast.

Nominees[edit]

Atlanta[edit]

Situated in the Heart of the southern U.S. Atlanta was home to the 1996 olympic games as well as the World's Largest Aquarium. Great southern Cooking and museums also makes this the ideal spot for exploring different cultures and cusines. Jimmy Carter Center and Library is also located in Atlanta. The State Capitol is Also Located in Atlanta

Transportation/Once there

  • Visa: Stringent US regulations apply.
  • Transportation: Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, one of the busiest in the world. Marta is the "Subway" so to speak in Atlanta with a connection at the Airport
  • Suggested hotel:Westin Peachtree Plaza/ Marriott Marquis
  • Suggested meeting place: The Hotel Above

Issues:None that I know of.

Votes[edit]

  • Yes, lots to to see near this Southern US city, and it's quite a big destination in itself. --Evan 10:45, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Starting with one that's logistically straightforward seems desirable. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • yes it's a very convieniently located city with a great airport. you can get there from practicly anywhere in the world. ... it's a beautiful city with very friendly people Unsigned comment by Bbudik1001 (talkcontribs) .
    • I consolidated the above two unsigned votes into one signed one. --Evan 00:28, 21 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. I was there in December 05 for the Peach Bowl and I wasn't very impressed. There are some interesting things to do like touring CNN's World Headquarters, but overall I think everyone would be greatly disappointed. We'd probably need several day trips, but there really isn't much to see/do outside the city except look at rocks and large "XXX ADULT SUPERSTORE" signs. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:55, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Belize[edit]

  • Visa US, Canadian, Auz, and UK passport holders do not need a visa, but they will need a valid passport.
  • Transportation:
  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:

Votes[edit]

  • Yes. Seems like a great destination. Belize has a lot of different travel options: leisure, adventure travel, cultural. Not as much of an urban centre as I'd like, but I can live without. --Evan 10:15, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Question: are we suggesting Belize (city) as the meeting place, or somewhere else in the country? Jpatokal 11:36, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Excellent destination, and addressing logistics should be feasible. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe. Belize (city) - No. Somewhere else in the country - Yes. --Californiacondor 17:19, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes No idea about destinations, Belize City is the main airport as far as I can tell. I guess it depends on how difficult it would be to get to Blemopan or elsewhere. --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No reading up on Belize and Belize City I'm not persuaded that we'll have much to do and we'd need plenty of side trips, which I imagine would be too hard to facilitate. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 06:06, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Bora Bora[edit]

Awesome island setting backed by great people.

Transportation/Once there Taxi or car rental

  • Visa: (translated from French, so forgive me for the bad order) Citizens of Germany, Andorra, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brunei, Bolivia, Canada, Chile, Cyprus, South Korea, Costa Rica, Croatia, Denmark, Ecuador, Spain, Estonia, USA, Finland, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hugary, Ireland, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Nicaragua, Norway, New Zeland, Panama, Paraguay, The Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, El Salvador, Czech Republic, United Kingdom, San Marino, The Holy See (Vatican), Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, Uruguay. French sitizens need a valid passport or ID card. Note: Visas to Metropolitan France (Schengen Visas) or NOT valid for French Polynesia (including Bora Bora). Please also note that many flights from Europe to French Polynesia connect in the USA, so you must follow the US requirements for airport transit.
  • Closest airport or rail connection:
  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:
  • Issues: Might be to awesome for some people to handle.

Votes[edit]

  • No. Although awesome, this is a small, isolated island. I think it sounds great for a relaxing vacation, but for bringing together a bunch of Wikitravellers to work on a travel guide...? I don't think so. --Evan 10:32, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Also terribly expensive. Jpatokal 11:34, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No Really too expensive Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. It is too expensive to attract large participation. --Californiacondor 15:42, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No Too expensive and too remote. --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • NO Unsigned comment by Bbudik1001 (talkcontribs) .

Brisbane[edit]

This Australian city is the second fastest growing in the western world, and needs international attention. The most important neighbourhoods to explore are West End, the South Bank, Fortitude Valley, New Farm and the CBD itself. The current travel guide often misrepresents this ever-changing city.

Transportation/Once there Taxi, trains and buses and most of all City Cats

  • Visa: Citizens from Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Brunei, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hong Kong SAR, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States Of America, Vatican City need an electronic travel authority (ETA). ETA costs AUS$20 and is available at http://www.eta.immi.gov.au/
  • Closest airport or rail connection: Brisbane International Airport, Roma Street Station
  • Suggested hotel: The Marriott in the City or The Saville at South Bank
  • Suggested meeting place: Portside (where the cruises dock), then take a City Cat up the river

Issues: Has an enviable climate.

Votes[edit]

  • Maybe. I'd love to go to Brisbane, which seems like a great city to see, but Australia is a very, very long way to fly for people from anywhere else in the world. With 2 days on each side for travel and jet lag recovery, that cuts down on people's ability to visit and enjoy the city and surroundings. On the upside, Brisbane and Queensland seem like fantastic places to see. --Evan 10:35, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe. Nice place but maybe a little far... Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. It's not that remote... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
    • Comment: My handy-dandy ever-ready Star Alliance calculator tells me the shortest possible connection from Montreal to Brisbane takes over 27 hours and involves two changes. The next fastest is 31 hours. How about we book you the seat between Evan and Maj so you can take care of the crying baby? :P (And oh, for what it's worth, the fastest connection from Singapore to Montevideo is 33.5 hours, and involves transits in South Africa and Brazil.) Jpatokal 12:10, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
      • Well, every place on earth has antipodes; it just happens that Montreal's is not far from Brisbane. A would-be Wikitraveler from e.g. Indonesia would have similar issues with Puerto Rico and vice versa. "Distant" is not the same thing as "hard to get to" (which is what I intended by "remote" above); to me the latter is a problem in the voting, not the former, and while Brisbane is distant from North America, there are plenty of plane connections that get people there. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:02, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • no it's a big city but flights are extreamly long and exprensive. --Unsigned comment by Bbudik1001 (talkcontribs) .
  • No. Simply for the reason I'd like to cut my time on a plane to at least half of that. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:32, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Honolulu[edit]

We only have an outline for this very popular travel destination.

  • Visa Please see the State Department [1]. Canadians will need a valid passport if flying in.
  • Transportation: Flights from Mainland US can run as low as $200 rt in the off-season
  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:

Votes[edit]

  • Yes. I think that Hawaii would make a good destination; lots of research to be done on the islands. Downside is relative cost; it's a pretty expensive destination. --Evan 10:22, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Wikitravel's poor coverage of this super-popular destination is crying out to be fixed. Also well located for the Japanese Wikitravel crew to join in. Jpatokal 11:34, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe. A little far for Europeans. Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes It's a nice location to draw in some folks from South America as well as Asia (ok, sort of equally inconveinent for all I guess). Not that expensive compared to many other resort destinations. Maj 13:35, 11 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe. Hawaii is so touristified that even far-off-the-beaten-path attractions there are pretty well documented in paper guides. There is less need to actually be physically present there for the research than is the case for many of the alternatives. Always a nice place to go, though; I'd suggest checking out the other islands as an outing and could help with it (I know the Big Island pretty well). -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:08, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No If we're going for tropical islands, I think there are more interesting places. --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe for the reasons and concerns Bill and Julien give. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:34, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Mexico City[edit]

Besides being inexpensive (even if your budget doesn't come in US dollars, euros or pounds), Mexico City has good international connections to all continents, a fascinating culture, great historic sites and museums, delicious food, several nearby attractions (ruins, beaches, colonial towns, etc), plenty of accommodation and a vibrant nightlife. The currently usable huge city article and districts can be greatly improved too.

Transportation/Once there

  • Visa: Citizens of Andorra, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Island, Israel, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Puerto Rico, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, United States of America, Uruguay and Venezuela are exempt of visas to enter Mexico. A valid passport is required, however. Citizens of other countries should obtain a visa beforehand from a Mexican consulate. [2]
  • Closest airport or rail connection: Frequent flights from most larger cities in the Americas, as well as Amsterdam, London, Paris, Madrid, and Frankfurt land at the Benito Juárez International Airport at the eastern part of the city. Some flights from Houston and Madrid also arrive at nearby Toluca.
  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:

Issues:

Votes[edit]

  • Yes. This would be a really fun destination, very interesting, easy to get to, still a lot of work to be done in most language versions. --Evan 10:37, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Nice city, easy to reach and cheap. Many things to visit in the city and arround. Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Always wanted to go. The current guide is usable, it would be excellent to get it to guide... Maj 13:35, 11 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe. Personally, I've been there often enough that I have no great interest in going back, but for the wider community the question is whether the pros (lots of cultural interest) outweigh the cons (a nightmare to get around in, poor air quality although it's better than it once was). Consider carefully. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No -- Personally, it doesn't seem that interesting. For me it rather does seem like a hassle to get to. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:48, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Montevideo[edit]

The capital of en:Uruguay, a beautiful 300-year-old colonial city in this country nestled between en:Brazil and en:Argentina. Our coverage of the country and the city are sparse.

Transportation/Once there

  • Visa: Holders of passaports (or MERCOSUR ID cards) from the following countries can enter without a visa: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, South Korea, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Ecuador, El Salvador, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Hungary, Ireland, Iceand, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Latvia, Lichtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Noruega, New Zealand, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Poland, Portugal , Dominican Republic, Czech Republic, Romania, South Africa, Seychelles, Sweden, Switzerland, Trinidad Tobago, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela. Travellers from other countries should contact the local consular section of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Closest airport or rail connection:

  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:
  • Issues: Tango, aaahhhh! (Only a threat after a bottle of red wine)

Votes[edit]

  • Support. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 15:07, 7 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes, seems like a good place to cover. Would also be a good starting point for people wanting to continue on to Brazil or Argentina or elsewhere in South America. --Evan 10:28, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Not that I have anything against Montevideo as such, but if Brisbane is hard for most people to get to, then so is Uruguay. Jpatokal 11:34, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Let's work out the bugs first, at somewhere more accessible. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. It’s indeed a lovely place but not much to see (from my experience), and it is (or at least I am) unable to recommend as the venue for this sort of workshop. --Shoestring 10:42, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No I'd love to go there (I love the Tango, even with the red wine) but it's prohibitively expensive to get there. --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

New Orleans[edit]

This international city is the epitome of great shopping, fantastic cuisine, and world-renown nightlife. It also desperately needs all the visitors it can get. Wikitravel can be a part of rebuilding this great city. It's also inexpensive and easy to get to and has a plethora of great hotels and meeting places downtown.

Transportation/Once there

  • Visa: Please see the State Department [3]. Canadians will need a valid passport if flying in.
  • Closest airport or rail connection: Louis Armstrong International Airport (MSY), Amtrak "City of New Orleans" line
  • Suggested hotel: Marriott Convention Center
  • Suggested meeting place: Morial Convention Center

Issues:

Votes[edit]

  • Yes, I would go to New Orleans, but I think it would be a less challenging location that some others. At least for en:, we have great coverage of NoLa, and the work still to be done is mostly editorial, not research work. --Evan 10:12, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. It's already been DotM'ed, so it's already been there, done that as far as Wikitravel the site is concerned. Jpatokal 11:34, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Agree with Jani. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Local business owners are still struggling to get their business back since the THING hit there. Here is our chance to help/support them. Leave the politics. Eat the gumbo. --Californiacondor 15:38, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:29, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Quebec City[edit]

Transportation/Once there

  • Visa: Americans do not need a visa to visit, however, they will need a passport.
  • Closest airport or rail connection: VIA Rail has a station in Quebec City or the Jean Lesage International Airport (airport code: YQB), in Ancienne-Lorette, is found about 30 minutes from downtown Quebec. Montreal's international airport (YUL) is a scenic 3 hour train ride.
  • Suggested hotel:
  • Suggested meeting place:

Votes[edit]

  • Yes, I think Quebec would be a good venue, although relatively expensive and full of melting snow in April. Lots of good side-trips that remain to be well-documented. --Evan 10:13, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes, nice easy to reach city with plenty to do. (still)Totally Lost 19:35, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes. Has the advantage of having a family of possible facilitators nearby... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Maybe. Is there really a week's worth of stuff to see and do here? And as Evan said the weather is likely to be unpleasant. Jpatokal 12:15, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
    • I suspect that one could easily spend a week there going to places that would fit under "Get out" and in related destinations' articles. As for weather, I personally would prefer melting snow to boiling heat, but that's just me. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:11, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
    • I think a week in Quebec City would require a lot of side trips. The city itself is worth 3-4 days max, and that's stretching it. --Evan 07:13, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No --Dawnview 13:32, 17 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No Quebec City in April? I don't think so... Maj 19:30, 19 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes While there is melting snow at the beginning of April in Quebec City, usually by mid-April (when the Get-together starts), the snow is 100% gone and the weather is quite pleasant, with temperatures around 10 degrees celsius (about 50 Fahrenheit) --EmbrunOntario 16:51, 21 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Frigid. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire)

Tbilisi[edit]

Tbilisi is an ancient city, which has everything to offer anyone might desire travelling. Monuments, suberb mountain views, great restaurants, thrilling athmosphere and booming nightlife. It is easily reached by plane.

In day trips or trips with one overnight most of the country can be reached. Batumi is especially pretty and can be reached in a 7-hour comfortable train ride with stunning views. Tbilisi is safe for foreigners - you should just use common big city sense and dress 'normal' (no typical American tourist look) not to draw too much attention. Georgians are really friendly and hospitable people, and you'll probably end up with a few of them drinking wine, beer or Georgian chacha.

Anytime of the year is a good time, as Georgia has relatively short, mild winters and long, hot summers. At the hight of the summer season Tbilisi is almost empty and all nightlife is in Batumi, and the closeby towns of Sarpi, Gonio and Kobuleti.

The north of the country has the stunning high Caucasus mountains while the west of the country has a subtropical climate. Georgian wine is irresitably and the food is delicious (very sweet and/or fat). For all western standards, cost of living is low and dinner in a fine restaurant (like Nikala on Rustavelis Gamziri) costs about 80 Lari (38 euro) for four people, including wine.

The Wikitravel article right now is hardly informative, and the information given does not do right to this beautiful city.

Transportation/Once there Taxis (cheap), the Tbilisi Metro (20 tetri flat fare - €0,10), train, inland flights, marshutkas.

  • Visa: EU, US and a number of other nationalities don't need visas. Otherwise visas can be obtained at your local Georgian embassy or consulate. Visas can also be bought at the airport (not recommended)
  • Closest airport or rail connection: Nova Alexeevka airport, 20km from city centre.
  • Suggested hotel: Mariott, Mariott courtyard, Sheraton Metechi, a lot of good deals for mid-range hotels are available, private homestays are also highly recommended (for the real Georgian experience and superb home cooking)
  • Suggested meeting place: Respublikis Moedani

Issues: Russian citizens might be refused entry because of the current row over Abkhazia and South-Ossetia, two breakaway republics supported by Russia. It goes without saying that those regions can better be given a miss (although Abkhazia has the best beaches in all of Georgia).

Votes[edit]

  • Maybe. This is a very good sales pitch but I'd hate to have the situation between Georgia and Russia degenerate while we're planning a group trip there. --Evan 10:39, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Not geared for tourism, and difficult and expensive to get to. I'll support this once we have a Wikitravel Off-the-Beaten-Path Get-Together though! Jpatokal 11:34, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. Difficult to get there. Julien 14:08, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. I've found few flights from within Western/Central Europe and thus may be too hard to get to. Also, as Evan noted it may be wise with the ongoing crisis between Russia and Georgia to avoid the Georgia. -- Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 16:02, 10 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
  • No. I love to go there but…..if we want to draw large participation, this is not the place to be. --Californiacondor 15:57, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
  • Yes Riggwelter 05:01, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

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