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[edit] Abbreviated redirects for common policies

swept in from the pub by User:OldPine

I hate to ape Wikipedia, but they've got one nifty tool for policy-wrangling: instead of typing out Wikitravel:Requests for comment etc, WT:RFC gets you to your destination in a jiffy. Is this worth adopting here too? Jpatokal 08:59, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Yep, we've already got a few unofficial ones that I use all the time... pub, cotw, vfd, DOTM... I kinda like that these are in the main namespace even though they redirect to WT namespace, which makes it that much quicker to type – cacahuate ^talk 15:13, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Actually reading your post again, I think as far as for citing policy as they do on Wikipedia it would be better to do WT:VFD etc, but I also like having my vfd link for quick navigation purposes – cacahuate ^talk 15:31, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

I use pub all the time to get here. I vote for having shortcuts in the main namespace. It is silly to add namespace gibberish to them. --Rogerhc 19:31, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Also, for citing it is best to use something like the place where we discuss deletion proposals than WT:VFD, since the person we are showing the link probably doesn't know what WTVFD means. --Peter ^Talk 20:14, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Well, one of the main reasons to adopt this (and the way it's used on WP) is that you don't have to type all of that out. Obviously it would depend on the scenario, but I could see writing in an edit summary "Revert - see WT:EL" – cacahuate ^talk 20:23, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Ultimately, there's no reason why we can't create both types of shorthands and allow each to their own. The point I was trying to make, though, was that either way I'll keep explaining rather than shouting acronyms at new contributors ;) --Peter ^Talk 22:03, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Yep, agreed. Anyone not in favor of this? If not I'm gonna start creating some (more) soon – cacahuate ^talk 22:45, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Let's hammer out what the links will look like first. All caps or mixed case? Namespaced or not? Jpatokal 00:42, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Well, I see this being used for 2 things... as shortcuts for navigating to frequently used pages, and then as shortcuts for pointing out policies to people. I like all caps, namespaced, the way that WP is doing it, for policy pointers... but I would also like to retain the ability to have quick, non-namespaced shortcuts such as pub, for quick personal use – cacahuate ^talk 00:47, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Also, should we create our own version of Wikipedia:Template:Shortcut to put on policy pages that have shortcuts? – cacahuate ^talk 01:06, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

style is one I plan type into my browser's location bar. --Rogerhc 21:16, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Specific style guidelines such as Wikitravel:Romanization#Chinese I may type out in full. Chinese already redirects to Chinese phrasebook. Or maybe I'll use Chinese romanization as a redirect to Wikitravel:Romanization#Chinese so that if the actual item name changes I only need update that redirect. --Rogerhc 01:14, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, I think creating shortcuts to a specific section on a page is a bit much... in that case you'd probably just want to type it out. In case you aren't familiar with how Wikipedia is doing it, check out WP:SHORT. The majority of theirs are 2 or 3 letters long... along the lines of WT:PUB, WT:MOS, WT:EL. "Chinese romanization" is almost as long as the actual page name, that might be stretching the shortcut idea a bit far :) – cacahuate ^talk 01:47, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

I think it might be useful to make a Wikitravel:Shortcuts page for reference, rather than a template to go on each "shortcutted" page—that way anyone interested in speeding up their edit summaries could just look at one page. I just created a xl redirect to Wikitravel:External links, since I'm getting tired of typing that particular one out. --Peter ^Talk 02:06, 30 July 2007 (EDT)