Thanks for nominating Shimla for DotM. Sorry, I was under the impression that sleazy meant atmospheric and trendy. I just looked it up in the dictionary and found that it means dirty and cheap-looking. I'll just change it (if you haven't already, that is) -- Upamanyuwikitravel 08:20, 5 February 2007 (EST)
Is Hotel Airlines International within walking distance of the Santa cruz station. I like to use the locals when I'm in Bombay, traffic is a nightmare and the roads have more potholes than tar!!! And are Juhu hotels near the Ville Parle station?? Upamanyuwikitravel 00:08, 16 February 2007 (EST)
Just created this article. Since you are a Bombayite, could you add some basic phrases, etc etc. Thanks. I'll add the intro some time tomorrow. -- Upamanyuwikitravel 09:24, 20 February 2007 (EST)
Lemme see. I suspect this is going to be of low utility for foreigners, so I will probably be setting a low priority for this. — Ravikiran 10:10, 20 February 2007 (EST)
Hey, I didn't mean to hurry you in any way. But I don't see why this is of low utility for foreigners, I mean, if you don't believe phrasebooks are useful, that's different, but... BTW, do you speak Marathi much, I've totally lost touch with the lingo - I've been in Delhi for 5 years now
Because if ever I work up the enthusiasm to work on a phrasebook, I will work on the Hindi phrasebook first as it will be vastly more useful to foreigners. The Marathi phrasebook is less important because I can't think of a place where Marathi is used, but Hindi isn't understood. After Hindi, it will probably be Kannada, my mother tongue. But in the first place, I have to figure out how to type in Indic fonts. I can speak Marathi - I studied it in school. — Ravikiran 04:30, 22 February 2007 (EST)
Well, Ravi, you've got a point there, most Marathis seem to manage basic Hindi. However, for OTBP locations, Marathi can be useful. And even I need to figure out how to type in Hindi. The best thing to do is to open the Hindi wikipedia, and there's a toolbox below the save page option where you can click letter-by-letter and type. Alas, it's painfully slow, took me 5 whole minutes to type an average sentence! So do you speak any other language apart from English, Hindi, Marathi and Kannada?? Have you lived in Bombay all your life? I'm just curious. BTW, do you think I should start a Bengali phrasebook. It's my mother-tongue and although I don't study it at school I'm quite good at it. Unlike Maharashtrians, getting a Bengali to speak Hindi is next to impossible. !! And it will also be useful for travellers visiting Bangladesh?? P.S. Am I allowed to start my own article or do I have to ask an admin first? Upamanyuwikitravel 04:25, 23 February 2007 (EST)
I've lived in Bombay almost all my life. As to the Marathi phrasebook, a lot of stuff about Devnagari can be simply copied and suitably modified for Marathi. And yes, you are absolutely allowed, no, encouraged to start new articles, whether about destinations, itineraries, travel topics, phrasebooks or even policies. You do not have to ask permission from anyone, least of all admins. It is a good idea to understand our goals and non-goals before making major changes, but it is better to make an honest mistake than do nothing at all. If you know that you are proposing a major change, then it is better to build a consensus first. It is a bad idea to use your editing privileges as a weapon against an existing consensus. But apart from that, anything that you do in good faith is okay. Also, admins do not have any special say in policy making because they are admins. Strictly speaking, our job is entirely clerical. We just implement policies and decisions arrived through the consensus of all Wikitravellers. It so happens that admins are also longtime users, so we tend to have a good idea of policies and goals, but we're supposed respect people's views for their content, not because of who holds those views. — Ravikiran 06:22, 23 February 2007 (EST)
I'm so jealous of you Indians and your damn multiple language abilities... that you actually have a choice of which phrasebooks you feel like working on still amazes me. I can't even manage Spanish, and I studied it in school and have lived closely around it my whole life, whereas you guys often have 3 or 4 languages/dialects under your belt by high school. Anyway, I'm a fan... I miss your country already... - Cacahuate 17:32, 22 February 2007 (EST)
Well, let's see. I learnt 3 languages at school English, Hindi and Marathi, so I can speak read and write them. In addition, my parents came over from Karnataka, where they speak Kannada, no wait - they actually came over from Dakshina Kannada where the native language is Tulu, a scriptless language. I learnt to read Kannada because after a time I did not want to wait for my mom to read out stories for me, so I can read and speak it pretty well, though I can't write it because I can't remember the script very well. However, Kannada script follows the same pattern as Hindi or Marathi (Think of a language that uses the same alphabet as English, but with different symbols for A, B, C, etc. ) So I am hoping that if I learn to type in Hindi, there will be some way to magically transform it into Kannada.) I can understand Tulu, but cannot speak it very well. It does not have a script, so fortunately, I do not have to learn to read or write it. On the other hand, Tulu is the craziest language ever as far as dialects go. The dialect not only changes every 10 km, different castes speak different dialects of Tulu. The Tulu spoken by us Brahmins is different from the Tulu's spoken by everyone else. I thought I understood everything about Tulu, till one day, I used "Jovu" to refer to a girl instead of "Jevu" and my interlocutor was mildly amused that I was using the dialect of the Shivallis (a different subcaste of Brahmins). Till then I hadn't even known that they spoke a different dialect. (I really need to write this up for the Talk section of DK)
Well, that's enough bragging about my linguistic abilities, which are really average for an Indian :) I can understand a bit of Tamil because I stayed for two years in Chennai and a bit of Gujarati by being around Gujaratis... and if I try hard perhaps I can read and understand Sanskrit. ;) — Ravikiran 06:22, 23 February 2007 (EST)
Wow Ravi, that makes 7, English, Hindi, Marathi, Kannada, Tulu, Gujarati and Tamil. And that is definitely more than an average Indians. In Delhi, where I currently live (but not for long, I bet, after school I'm going to say bye to this pathetic place:( ), most of the people speak 2 languages, max 3.
Unfortunately, I only speak 5, English, Hindi, Bengali (my mother-tongue), Sanskrit (at school, and I'll ditch Hindi next grade and continue with it) and well, a bit of basic French since I go to my classmate's house every Sunday to teach her Sanskrit in return for which she teaches me French!!! (I'm also planning to sign up at the Alliance Francaise next Feb) I used to speak a bit of German and Spanish (I stayed for a few months in Lausanne, actually 6 weeks, so I got an uncle to teach me both, he teaches at the Institute of Foreign Languages, Hyderabad). Well, that's all, and I can read and write in all of them, although that's just 3 scripts (Roman, Devanagiri and Bengali/Assamese). Upamanyuwikitravel 08:12, 23 February 2007 (EST)
Hey, Ravi, are there non-stop flights from Bombay to South Africa? Please let me know? There aren't any from Delhi, I checked. Might visit SA some time in May/June (summer hols). Upamanyuwikitravel 11:25, 23 February 2007 (EST)
No idea. You'll probably need to check at various airline websites. — Ravikiran 11:55, 23 February 2007 (EST)
No problem. Just surfed, and South African has a few to Johannesbourg from Bombay. Upamanyuwikitravel 05:02, 24 February 2007 (EST)
Well caught. What's your suggestion. WindHorse 08:52, 27 February 2007 (EST)
Thanks for doing the roll back and apologies for causing the hassle. WindHorse 09:19, 27 February 2007 (EST)
I think it's a good idea to have a Coastal division. But I feel that in the case of Karnataka, dividing the state into Western Ghats, The Coastal Strip and the Deccan region will make more sense. Please reply on Talk:Karnataka. Thanks — Upamanyuwikitravel 06:35, 28 February 2007 (EST)
Hi. I'd like to ask you a favor. Could you please delete my user page? I am not active at Wikitravel, and it is kind of an eyesore to see my wikitravel page showing up very high in google search results when I search for my name. That would be very appreciated. Thank you, Oleg Alexandrov 18:52, 1 March 2007 (EST)
Yeah, it went great and my mom said that she couldn't recognize me when I came back home (same old story!!!). Why is it that all important meetings are immediatly after holidays :( ?? It's the same with me, my Sanskrit exam is tomorrow, but I finished preparing yesterday eve. Upamanyuwikitravel 05:33, 4 March 2007 (EST)
Hey Ravi - Have you come back to Thane from Clark? The infobox on your user page still says "I am very busy and may not check here for days". Where are you currently? Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 06:31, 8 March 2007 (EST)
Ya, I know all about that, I saw a long conversation that you had with Cacahuate regarding your honeymoon. Anyway, I've always appreciated your edits and am quite a fan of yours! Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 07:19, 8 March 2007 (EST)
I've answered on the Calcutta page. I don't know much about Calcutta to commment. — Ravikiran 07:38, 8 March 2007 (EST)
Hi Ravi-ji, I agree that Bangalore in particular desperately needs be districtified. And although this is the major city that I am most familiar with in India, I'm afraid that I have absolutely no idea about the names of the districts. Wikipedia also has nothing. So, I am quite useless to help. Any ideas? WindHorse 11:20, 8 March 2007 (EST)
Haven't the slightest idea. I am not familiar with Bangalore at all! — Ravikiran 11:44, 8 March 2007 (EST)
Nor do I. I'll try to ask someone from wikipedia. Ravi, do you know anyone from there? Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 11:45, 8 March 2007 (EST)
deindenting. We absolutely need someone with local knowledge of Bangalore. Districting is not something that can be done through research. Here's what I'd do - leave a comment on the talk page for Bangalore on Wikipedia asking any localite to contact you on your talk page. I am sure someone will respond. Once they do, explain the problem and try to get a solution. I'll chip in with advice if needed. (Right now, my project is making Mumbai a guide and if possible a star, so I cannot commit too much time on this. ) — Ravikiran 08:19, 9 March 2007 (EST)
Righto. I'll do as you say. Best of luck :) , and I hope Bombay becomes a star some day...Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 08:41, 9 March 2007 (EST)
Yeah Mumbai isn't a guide yet because all the districts have to be at least usable before that happens. That will be easily rectified, but making it a star is another cup of tea. Satellite pictures are available, and making maps is easy in theory. But in practice it is going to be a tough job. I will make Thane a star first for practice :) — Ravikiran 10:34, 9 March 2007 (EST)
Great. I need to figure out how to draw a map! BTW, I did as you said and posted the requests on wikipedia:Talk:Bangalore and on a Bangalorean wikipedian's talk page. So hopefully we'll get a districtification. Hyderabad and Ahmedabad are also left.... Take care Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 11:33, 9 March 2007 (EST)
Thanks for clearing the restaurant issue up. The original work was biased one way and I bent it the other way. Glad someone neutral was able to take the best of both arguments and come out with a decent piece. Again, thanks! Celticevergreen 05:26, 10 March 2007 (EST)
No problem. — Ravikiran 07:22, 10 March 2007 (EST)
Now, this is really turning into a conspiracy. Happy birthday, if my suspicions are correct (well, I guess it's belated if we're operating on your time zone). -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 23:36, 11 March 2007 (EDT)
Well it was, yesterday. :) I visited Todd's personal homepage and I found it interesting that he had the same date of birth as I, (albeit, he is a few years older). Then I checked up Tom's profile on Crossroads, and what do I see? He too has the same birthday! Anyway, had a good birthday yesterday, my new wife baked me a cake and made me cut it at midnight :) — Ravikiran 07:07, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Hey, belated Happy Birthday from me too! I hope you enjoyed the-cake-which-was-baked-by-your-wife-and-cut-at-midnight :) :) :) !!! Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 08:10, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Hey, we now have 5 users and my friend Himanshu will sign up today, that'll make it 6. And a rather interesting mix too (a South, East and West Indian each, a Nepali and even a Californian!)
It's amazing how the Hindi wikitravel has already inspired an international audience to join!
I hope you don't mind if I choose to act as the go-between. You can vote against me if you wish, and I'll also nominate you, because you're the only person with a near-native understanding of Hindi. Well, actually, even Himanshu is very good, he's a native speaker, but he's not an experienced admin!
I've asked Yann to join the expdtn. on the Hindi wikipedia, he's very active out there. I came across a sentence s'where where he specifically said "main blah-blah-blah kaa sampaadan kartAA hoon", not "kartEEN hoon", so I suppose Yann is a he not a she. Though, of course, it may be bad grammar. Anyway, another user, Amit, joined a few hours ago after I posted a message for him on his hi:wp user talk page. Take care Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 10:26, 19 March 2007 (EDT)
Himanshu's signed up, so that makes 7 users. I think we're all set to go, only the MediaWiki file is left. Hopefully, it won't be the pt:senario,where (according to Ricardo) 7 guys signed up andy 2 could be traced!
I supppose you follow cricket. Could you explain to me why we desperately needed to defeat Bermuda by over 250 runs to make it through to the Super 8? And 2nd q, did we end up defeating them by that margin? I just saw us score 413 and that was it. Nothing's in the papers got the matches get over at dawn IST and I couldn't ask my friends because today was a school-hoilday. Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 08:09, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
Well, India's group consisted of India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Bermuda. Only two out of 4 can go to the Super 8. The likely scenario was:
India defeats Bangladesh, Bermuda (and maybe Sri Lanka) — 2 wins/3 wins.
Bangladesh loses all matches except to Bermuda — 1 win.
Bermuda loses everything — 0 wins.
In that case India and Sri Lanka would have been through to Super 8. But unfortunately, India lost to Bangladesh. So now the best scenario for India is:
India defeats Sri Lanka and Bermuda — 2 wins
Sri Lanka defeats Bangladesh, Bermuda — 2 wins
Bangladesh defeats India, Bermuda — 2 wins.
Bermuda loses everything — 0 wins.
Then it all comes down to the Net Run Rate. So we need to win by huge margins against both Sri Lanka and Bermuda or we are out. Unless, of course, Sri Lanka loses to Bangladesh, in which case, Sri Lanka is out. Hope that helped. — Ravikiran 11:27, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
Thanks. I got it now. Nice of you to take time and explain it to me in such detail. Could you just comment about wolf's suggestion at User:Upamanyuwikitravel/Sandbox
What's the best way to get to Thane from Bombay? How do you commute daily? Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 09:19, 29 March 2007 (EDT)
Well, I drive, but where in Bombay do you want to go to? If it is anywhere on the Central line, it is convenient to take a train and on the Western line, well if you want to take Public transport it is still the train, but you will have to changeover at Dadar. If you give me the specific location, I can let you know the best route. — Ravikiran 12:58, 29 March 2007 (EDT)
Oh that's a good idea. Check the BEST website for a bus to Kurla and not Dadar. The rest of the instructions are the same. There might be buses to Mulund or Thane too, but the Thane ones will be infrequent and the Mulund ones will take a lot of time and you will have to change over to something else there. —
PS. Are cabs easy to flag off the streets in Thane? Is a cab a good option or is the bus better. Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 04:18, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
You won't get a taxi in Thane, but you will get an auto. As far as I know, bus services in Thane are pathetic compared to the ones in Bombay. (But I don't know much. I haven't travelled by bus in Thane in months. ) — Ravikiran 08:57, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
According to the BEST site, the fastest way is 30LTD to Kamani and 507LTD from there to SantaCruz. It also mentions 30LTD to Kurla Depot and 311/3/4 from there to SantaCruz. I suppose that is the best option, right? Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 04:26, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
Right. When are you coming to Bombay? If you have the time we could try to meet. — Ravikiran 08:57, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
Most probably summer. But I also have Calcutta and the Nilgiris on my list. But if you ask me, Bombay beats both! Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 09:30, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
BTW, where is Kamani? I've never heard of the place.
Kamani is in Kurla. It is an industrial area. — Ravikiran 11:30, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
If I had to choose any one between Bombay, Nilgiris, Cochin and Trivandrum, which one would you recommend? My mom's firmly told me that I'm only allowed one, and I can't quite make up my mind. Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 07:47, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
Cochin, spend a day in the backwaters. — Ravikiran 12:52, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
Cochin it shall be. I love Kerala. Last time I spent a week in some villages near Calicut (it's now been renamed to sonething weird) and it was awesome. But then I may not end up visiting you :( Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 05:01, 19 April 2007 (EDT)
I attempted my first map... can you have a look when you've got a second since you've been there and tell me if things seem to be in the right place? No doubt the roads aren't all that accurate, but I think they convey the general idea ;) I'll try to work a little more on the article too soon, and hopefully get it in shape for OTBP. – cacahuatetalk 06:19, 26 April 2007 (EDT)
Is that all to Havelock? :) I think the map is good as it is, but I can't help feeling that there must be more to it. But perhaps I am wrong. — Ravikiran 10:03, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
Well, that's what's in the article anyway. I'm sure there's a few more things that could be added... I'm gonna say more on Talk:Havelock Island... – cacahuatetalk 18:44, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
Hey Ravi-ji, Good luck for your new job in Andhra Pradesh (and does this mean that Hyderabad article will now get the special Ravi treatment and end up looking as great as the Mumbai one?) Take it easy. WindHorse 08:42, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
Come on windhorse, that goes without saying :) -- Good luck, Ravi. I'm warning you that Bombay's a hard city to part with, I had to do the same 6 years back. Hyderabad's a fantastic place too, unfortunately I'm stuck up in Delhi. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 06:09, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for your wishes folks! Yes, Hyderabad is going to be my next project :) I will never really part with Bombay. I shall return some day :) — Ravikiran 10:01, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
Interesting that you guys find Bombay such a great place. Along with Delhi, it's one of the major cities that I feel the least attraction towards. Of the metros, I much prefer Kolkata and Bangalore. Maybe you guys can give me some tips on where to find the city's 'hidden' charm. WindHorse 11:22, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
If you get a moment, please could you take a look at the CBD Belapur article and maybe merge whatever you consider to be worth keeping into the Navi Mumbai article? ~ 220.127.116.11 13:20, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
I'm expanding the pages under the guidelines given by you. In a few days, I'll cover imortant topics. Please keep on visiting and if you find anything wrong, then let me know.
With warm regards,
~Amod Bhagwat. ab_18 16:02(IST) June 29, 2007.
I'm sorry, but I didn't see the Script nomination page, BUT it's not my own program, it's pywikipedia, I've just modified it a bit and I got this message from your admin: message. So, can I get the bot flag, or I must write to the nomination page? Dorgan 09:26, 10 July 2007 (EDT)
Hey there! A new user dropped by and left a note on hi:वार्ता:मुख्य पृष्ठ, but I don't understand it, and Upamanyu is on an extended vacation... would you mind checking it out? – cacahuatetalk 15:42, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's criticizing the Hindi that is being used/abused on the site. Can you also take a look if you have a second at some of the city articles that I've been creating... if I'm mangling the spelling too much I might ease off, as I think that might look silly to potential Hindi speaking contributors. And for the record it's not my fault that there are 4 "d's" and 4 "t's". Who invented that anyway? ;) On the upside, there are some great movies that come out of that mess of a language. I just went to see Jhoom Barabar Jhoom... can you also explain to me Amitabh's outfit? Whoa. – cacahuatetalk 00:11, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
Sadly, my wife has better taste than I, which means that I haven't seen any Hindi movies for quite some time... In fact, none after Eklavya - that movie traumatized her with its stupidity while I completely enjoyed it. Secondly, the new user is probably a she... पूर्णिमा (i.e Poornima) is generally a female name, meaning full moon.. Thirdly, she is not criticizing any of your edits, but the translation of Main Page. Upamanyu translated it as मुख्य पृष्ठ (Mukhya Prusht) which literally translates to "Main Page" (or even more literally, Chief page), But Mitul and Poornima are arguing that it should be मुखपृष्ठ (MukhPrusht) which, though it literally means "Face Page", is the accepted Hindi word for the front page of a book. I think they have a point... I see that Upamanyu misunderstood Mitul's point and thought that Mitul was objecting to the space between Mukhya and Prusht. Spaces between words are kind of less important in Hindi than in English. And where's the boy gone? School has started here in India! — Ravikiran 01:22, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
Ok then, thanks for the clarification. Upm had said that he would be gone to Kolkata and offline through June and asked me to look after :Hi, maybe now he's busy with school... hasn't been by here in quite some time. – cacahuatetalk 01:49, 12 July 2007 (EDT)
Hello guys, here's the boy! My school re-opened on 3rd July after 2 months of vacations. I will be active in about a week's time. Great to know that Am.s have started to watch Bollywood... Ha ha! Upamanyuwikitravel
Thank you, Ravi ji. I always like going to Calcutta, I go there about thrice a year. My grandparents and their dog live there. My mom and I went to the Nilgiris after that, and we had a great time. I'll be uploading some of the photos today. Upamanyuwikitravel • ( Talk ) • ( Travel ) • 04:51, 31 July 2007 (EDT)
I am fine, thanks! I was in Mangalore when it happened. I was in fact discussing our visit to the laser show a month back at probably the exact moment when the blasts occurred. — Ravikiran 01:31, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
Wow, that's a freaky coincidence. Who exactly commits these crimes and what purpose do bombings and the murders of innocent Indians serve? -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 07:26, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
They are generally attributed to "Islamic militants". But we don't really know who exactly they are, because no one claims responsibility, which is quite strange, because if it is some political goal they are after, you'd expect them to place demands on the table. It is more likely that they actually want to spread uncertainty and cause more violence. India has an unfortunate history of religious violence - and if violence is provoked, no matter who started it, Muslims get the worst of it. Some of these Muslims will seek revenge by joining terrorists and committing more violent acts. This rationale explains why they are choosing targets on both sides. In May, they caused blasts at a mosque. — Ravikiran 12:40, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
Since you're heading there... is in Pondicherry, on a side street roughly across the street from Sri Aurobindo's Paper Factory off of SV Patel Salai. I can't remember the name of the restaurant, but I think maybe it had "green" in the name, or the building was green. Anyhoo... I dream about it still. – cacahuatetalk 13:40, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for the tip! — Ravikiran 05:25, 18 October 2007 (EDT)
Just wanted to say hi, haven't heard from you for quite some time. Hope you're doing well. BTW, I just wanted to find out - does Zee Sports come on your TV? And do you use Dish TV, Tata Sky, Hathway or analog cable TV? I'm missing all the ICL matches because Zee Sports doesn't come on Tata Sky. Pity the Champs are playing so badly, or do you support the Hyd Heroes now? upamanyu 09:17, 4 December 2007 (EST)
Nope. I am not following the ICL matches at all! — Ravikiran 05:27, 5 December 2007 (EST)
Why? In my school everyone's hooked on to the TV or the net from 6 every evening! upamanyu