User talk:Peterfitzgerald/Archives 2008
Happy New Years!
I felt like saying...between you and Gorilla Jones, you two successfully created 10 star articles this year. Congratulations! Looking forward to more in '08... PerryPlanet 22:09, 31 December 2007 (EST)
So you don't have to slog through my mass of recent edits to find them - Mas in Chicago/Wicker Park and Cafe Suron in Chicago/Rogers Park are closed, and I deleted a bar in the Chicago/Near South that had virtually no description or info beyond the address. Gorilla Jones 16:17, 5 January 2008 (EST)
partial revert re Meson David
Re : looks like the user's experience is radically different from the previous recommendation. Why don't we help him to incorporate the opinion / to discuss the matter in Talk? --DenisYurkin 14:30, 6 January 2008 (EST)
Try (m|M)(i|I)(k|K)(e|E).*(m|M)(e|E)(t|T)(t|T)(e|E) ~ 220.127.116.11 06:38, 9 January 2008 (EST)
If you'll be around to re-protect it in 5 minutes, could you unprotect it? ~ 18.104.22.168 15:18, 9 January 2008 (EST)
"Penzenskaya Oblast" looks like an alternative name - how about incorporating it as Penza Oblast (Penzenskaya Oblast) is a region in... or something like that? Then if someone searches for either "Penzenskaya" or "Penzenskaya Oblast" (which I'd guess must be possible/likely as that's the name of the Wikipedia article) the Penza Oblast article will show up. ~ 22.214.171.124 01:40, 11 January 2008 (EST)
Travel guides in Russian
Dear Peter, I have wrote many articles or made a significant contibution)in Russian Wikipedia (Budapest, Madrid, Barcelona, Florence). Now I started to write articles in Russian Wikitravel. To my opinion, its level is too low. I can contribue due to my experience. The countries I visited are: Switzerland, UK, France, Spain, Czechia, Hungary, US, Italy. I can write also in English or Hebrew. See my Wikipedia page at --Aklyuch 22:44, 14 January 2008 (EST)
Hi - I made a few edits to the entry for Morogoro, Tanzania, but they don't seem to show up. I looked at the history of the page and saw your userid. It looks like you're an experienced user of this site (I am not) so I thought I'd ask - did I do something wrong in trying to save the edits ? Do I just need to wait for someone to approve them ? I have many more edits for Morogoro, but I thought I'd wait until the first batch go through. Could you please reply at [deleted] ? Thanks. - Albert
Peter - Thanks for explaining. I'll continue to update the Morogoro site. My plan is to move everything from the REDOUBT site to WikiTravel - no sense in hoarding the data when there's a great site like this. Thanks. - Albert
Hi Peter - Living in Morogoro, it's quite useful to have the cell numbers of a few local taxis handy. I think this would quite legitimately be useful information for travelers. However, it seems quite strange to put someone's primary phone number on a public web page. Also, I was thinking that because there are literally hundreds of taxis in the area, it could get to be quite ungainly to list them on the main page. That led me to wondering if there is a precedent for this situation, and I figured that you might know. Thanks, - Albert
traveler vs traveller
I thought "traveller" was already well established as the default for Wikitravel - see Main page, etc. ~ 126.96.36.199 22:49, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Sleep section header in region articles
Hi, Peter. I noticed that you "restored" a Sleep header to the Arizona article. I believe it is policy that region articles do not have a Sleep section. In my experience that is good policy as everyone wants their listing in the highest geographical level for better exposure, but leaves us sorting huge lists to lower levels where they belong. -- OldPine 07:43, 19 January 2008 (EST)
Get in or Get out?
Peter, please tell me where to put the Khachmaz departing bus schedule?
To me, it seems it belongs in the "get out" section, but another user said it belongs in the "get in" space. Please advise.
Thanks,Starvinghog 01:24, 31 January 2008 (EST)
New user question
I am trying to add information about Norskedalen (where I work) to Wikitravel. Being new to this, I did create a user ID to disclose that the information comes from our non-profit rather than a traveler. I added to the 'See' section of Southwest Wisconsin (which is where I saw your name). I am not sure I did it right; the 'See' changed fonts and I didn't touch that, it has a 'link example' in blue at the end of the paragraph, and I wasn't sure if I should create a separate page for Norskedalen? I was just hoping you might give me a bit of guidance if you would be so kind. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Svennorsk (talk • contribs)
Hi, thanks for the heads-up about the external links policy in Wikitravel, I'll be sure to follow it from now on. Please dump anything I added that may be inappropriate. Still, I hope the link to my Blues Brothers map might remain – I know of many fans of the movie who have used it as the basis of self-guided tours of the city, which is an interesting way to get off the beaten path. Best regards, Kevin Forsyth 11:14, 15 February 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the communication to the guy starting hotel articles. I though I did that, but I guess it got lost in the database problems. OldPine 18:08, 22 February 2008 (EST)
For the offer of help. I will no doubt take you up on it! And thanks, too, for all your great contributions to the site! (and for your patience with the tech issues that are being worked on).JuCo 18:38, 22 February 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the compliment on the San Diego overview map! Course, I got the idea from seeing one on the Chicago page... PerryPlanet 20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Why do you want to delete the page of båtOpplevelse AS? Did I do anything wrong? I am new to Wikipedia and try to follow the rules. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Runhild (talk • contribs)
Peter - thanks. I was starting to plan my annual vacation and stumbled on Wikitravel. It seems to be a worthwhile effort, and I do a little traveling that might be of use to the site. Brhumphreys 23:37, 24 February 2008 (EST)
heya peter i stand corrected
you were right obama has a hotel mccain doesn--188.8.131.52 20:47, 26 February 2008 (EST)t hope your not mad but i did add southern pines has a inn.
Did you only pick up your Georgian in Georgia or did you learn it from other means? I'm curious, because I'd like to pick it up for fun.
If you don't mind me asking, what brings you to Toledo? I've been there once around this time of the year and if I'm not mistaken, it's the worst place to be on Earth. -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 13:33, 3 March 2008 (EST)
Hi there! Since you've been there recently, I'd appreciate any commentary or contributions you might have on the recent work I'm doing to do subdivide the Texas Panhandle into more digestible-sized chunks. Also, I'll check out the new photo submission as soon as I'm not at a work computer that blocks Flickr. Texugo 01:26, 6 March 2008 (EST)
Talk at Russian section
Прошу вас обратить внимание на вашу страницу обсуждения в русском разделе Wikitravel. -- 03:19, 6 March 2008 (EST) ru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev
So, the bears at Cabela's did not eat you? 2old 10:06, 6 March 2008 (EST)
Thanks a bunch for the map! I'm really excited to have that sort of quality content in Maryland. One question, though: shouldn't Talbot County be in the Eastern Shore? That's where it was in the Maryland tourism site I took the regions from. --Jonboy 19:29, 6 March 2008 (EST)
I realize this is a little picky, but shouldn't DC be shaded the same not-Maryland color as the rest of the not-Maryland part of the map? Until we have retrocession, it's probably a little less confusing that way. --Jonboy 12:22, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
Palo Duro Canyon photo
No hoopla, but the quest begun last May is complete — we made Chicago a star. A moment of shared triumph, then... Gorilla Jones 00:16, 8 March 2008 (EST)
Sorry, I just wanted some discussion on several pages on linking to WorldFlicks pages. I think it fits with the external linking policy, I don't see any point where it doesnt fit. I posted in on 10 popular places to get some good discussion... Where should be the best place to run this discussion? RonaldR 16:15, 9 March 2008 (EDT)
I'm a pain-in-the-ass about license issues, but could I ask that you waive the requirement for me to attribute you for this version of the Maryland expedition? I'd like to copy this over to other language versions and on en: too, but I'd likely forget to continually attribute you. -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 19:25, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Talk at Russian section
Peter, I think I've messed up the Ireland maps (serves me right for messing with something I know nothing about!) I was trying to change the spelling of two of the towns shown on the road map, changing Moneghan to Monaghan and Carrick on Shannon to Carrick-on-Shannon. Is it something you can fix up easily, or have I made a complete mess of it!??! Sorry. --The.Q(t)(c) 10:45, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
borders for Rome districts
Hi, Peter. I am about to sort out some part of listings in Rome; before I start, just to make sure: do you think there are high chances that you can help with definition of district borders for Rome in the nearest weeks? If so, I will postpone my edits until there some consensus on districts appear; otherwise I can plunge forward immediately with a dozen or two of moves that are clear even for a present district structure. What do you think? --DenisYurkin 04:09, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
Dear Peter , please don't merge the Roman districts into a few districts because Rome is so different and full of history that have to be explained in every part of it ! For example with the merged version the Trevi Fountain is located into the Modern Rome ?!?!? or Aventino and Testaccio are merged but they are completely different , the Testaccio one is a popular district of Rome meanwhile Aventino is a luxury district for diplomates !!! I could continue for hours...I was born in Rome and I live in Rome adn this week-end I'll make a rational work into this section and I'll add several information about every district. Ciao Borisgiulivi 10:39, 16 October 2008 (CET)
Просматривая по вашему совету Chicago, я наткнулся там на раздел "Tourist Information" и понял, что я не рассказал о нём в русской статье. Сейчас я добавил раздел "Информационный центр для туристов" в ru:Санкт-Петербург и прошу вас добавить аналогичную информацию в Saint Petersburg (Russia) и обследовать английский раздел сайта www.saintpetersburgvisit.ru на предмет полезной информации для англоязычных туристов. Вам, как иностранцу, более понятно что именно нужно добавить в английскую статью. -- 05:33, 17 March 2008 (EDT) ru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev
Status change for Virgin Gorda
I'm new to Wikitravel editing, and would like some guidance. I think the Virgin Gorda article can be upgraded from "Outline," but should it be "Usable" or "Guide?" RogerR 17:01, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
Hi. I reverted your changes to the Wikitravel:Local spam blacklist because they seemed to match the phrase "some...travel" (or something similar) and prevented the editing of San Diego. See shared:Tech:Cannot_edit_San_Diego_page_due_to_faulty_spam_filter. --Jonboy 12:38, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the comments. I've updated it a bit, now, does it look any better? By the way, I've left the following question on Wikitravel_talk:How to draw a map:
Питер, добавте, пожалуйста, в Travel news:
В Санкт-Петербурге с 1 апреля 2008 года повышены цены на городской общественный транспорт: на метро -- с 14 до 17 рублей, на автобус, трамвай и троллейбус -- с 14 до 16 рублей.
Templated listing layout problem
I'm planning a trip to Sri Lanka in August. Given the terrorist activity through out the country, so you think I should cancel my trip and go somewhere else? I was told that if we avoid public transport and stick to the south we should be fine.
Chicago: Wicker Park map
This isn't totally urgent, but I thought I should just point out that the Handlebar is located on North Avenue; on the map it is incorrectly placed on Division Street. Eco84 14:27, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
Russian section needs administarative actions
Питер, срочно защитите спам-фильтр руссского раздела! Diff вандала - на вашей странице обсуждения. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 15:09, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
What do you think of the Sheki site now? What else can be improved? Cupcakecommander
iNFORMATION ON FAR SOUTHEAST SIDE OUTDATED!!
Your info on the southeast side of chicago is right on, except for the fact that a lot of the stores and restaurants no longer exist. You also forgot to mention Calumet Fisheries on East 95th Street (Where the Blues Brothers jumped the bridge) Mexican Inn on 95th and Ewing Avenue Heinies Fish and Chicken (outstanding shrimp and gizzards) The Shedd , for a cocktail or O'Hara's Bar, The Crowbar. There is no bowling alley, comic book store....
Embassies and consulates
Питер, скажите, в какой статье надо описывать посольства и консульства - в статье об этом городе, где они находятся, или же в статье о государстве? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 16:14, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
User:Peterfitzgerald's disgusting and ignorant Russia slander ;)
You have very Ignorant and biased information on Russia. Just becuase you were treaty badly does not mean others would be. Yor information you posted was disgusting and no bounds of truth. Shame on you for your lies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs)
Питер, я сейчас перевожу Wikitravel:Article naming conventions → ru:Участник:Sergey kudryavtsev/Wikitravel:Именование статей. В английском тексте есть пример Eight mile junction - что это такое? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:34, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Virgin Gorda Map
Thanks for adding the map: http://wikitravel.org/shared/Image:Virgin_Gorda_map.png
Here are some adjustments on the restaurant locations, most minor a couple major.
Put Rock Cafe above LSL Bakery. It's at the T-intersection (yes, it's still the same rocks as at The Baths).
Put Island Pot across Tower Road from LSL Bakery.
Mine Shaft Restaurant is a little inland from the coppermine, on the north side of the road: http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=18.4340976&lon=-64.4298363&z=15&l=0&m=s&v=2
Put Flying Iguana on the lower left cornr of the Airport icon. It's on the south side of the airport road.
RogerR 22:51, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
Virgin Gorda telepohones--do you just dial seven digits?
Sorry, I don't know how to dial within Virgin Gorda--the nice folks at Guavaberry made all our calls for us!
i thought if a place has sleep its kept
all those enteries you deleted had sleep. i dont understand. --220.127.116.11 04:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
help you with what? please be more specific. --18.104.22.168 04:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
help you with new travel guides ok i understand sure thing peter just thought someone hijacked your account for a second. the grammar is not good. --22.214.171.124 04:42, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
why can't you accept any outlines i do why do they all have to have sleep? --126.96.36.199 11:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
You've put fish crack in the index of our book? You've gone made with apostrophes, sir. Gorilla Jones 00:17, 2 July 2008 (EDT)
That one's been at the top of my list forever, but I couldn't bring myself to trace out that bitch of a coastline.... thanks for doing the smart thing and finding it on Commons! Looks great and much needed – cacahuate talk 23:58, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
Credit for articles?
Peter, I just made a boo-boo. I made several contributions to articles on Kaliningrad and Murmansk, only to discover that, when my dial-up connection dropped out midway, I was no longer logged in to Wikitravel when I continued, meaning that my contributions were attributed to "Anonymous." Considering that I brought these articles from almost zero info to having at least basic info populated in most of the fields, I'd rather have some credit rather than Anonymous. In the Murmansk article, I "undid" everything then resubmitted the info after logging on. Not sure if that's the kosher way to do it -- one could steal another's work that way, but I was only repopulating my own. Should I do the same for today's edits to Kaliningrad, or is there another, better fix? -Andrewsyria
why do u delete my portions of data in the document??? id: prithwisaha@ gmail.com
Another revert question - this edit looks like a legitimate question to me, although I don't know the user's history. Would it make more sense to just move that edit to Wikitravel talk:Local spam blacklist? If the user really is trying to edit without touting it would be good to give him some feedback. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:33, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm soliciting advice, particularly as regards the process, on how to district Boston from both you and Gorilla as you have been through this. When you get the time, please let me know of any guidance you can offer. Pleas see Talk:Boston#DISTRICTS (again). Thanks. --OldPine 12:43, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
Peter Fitzgerald, Thanks for editing Northern Ireland page - just one day before yesterday. I'm brazilian and going there next september, and the informations are very useful. Good lock Bye Claudia
Lake Point Tower
Good call on the trim for the skyline guide. But Lake Point Tower is a condo building, so technically lots of people "own" it along with Oprah (if she's got a condo there). Gorilla Jones 19:17, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for figuring out Melbourne/Carlton
Hey Peter! Thanks for helping me figure out the links in Melbourne/Carlton. You're the BEST! :) Kaci 14:19, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for your help again at San Francisco/Chinatown-North Beach. I like the following photo a lot, and would like to add it  (it's the musical barber under the "Do" section)..however, I read that photos of people were a no-no. Given that he's the real attraction here, would this rule apply here too in your opinion? Thanks Asterix 17:51, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
Thank you very much regarding this,
i would like to improve the article for hunza, as further more sub sections, and i want to use a few more redirects, as few names are known to different in locals, like UPPER HUNZA, will be redirected to GOJAL and so LOWER HUNZA should be redirected SHINAKI and so few more. and yes about the content copying you are right in saying that, and i am trying to improve the article as much as i can and i am trying to get the references from where i am taking the data,
and in more details as u may have see some tags i have put, but those are need to be filled so i might copy(take) content from some other sites, so please let me know if there would be any copyright issue so that there wont be any kind of such issues rising,
I hope you will help us improving the article about hunza further more and with more details
Thanks & regards Samsaleem 05:33, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
I am native Russian speaker. I also speak English (high level) and Japanese (intermediate level). I own big official website about Japan and can provide lots of information on this topic. Let's make Russian article about Japan together. http://wikitravel.org/ru/%D0%AF%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F
Thanks for the Welcome
Just wanted to say thanks for the welcome. I've been using wikitravel for about a year now and I finally decided to add something. I'm sure I'll see you around.
Hi Peter my IP address has been blocked in German and also I cannot modify anything in Italian. My IP address is 188.8.131.52. Thanks for your help
Chicago/Wicker Park map again
I just noticed that the distance key is wrong. The line representing a quarter mile actually looks more like a half mile. Eco84 11:21, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Chicago/South Chicago Shore map
The 55th-56th-57th Metra station is mislabeled as "55th-56th-59th". Eco84 12:03, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Other Chicago maps
Sorry to keep hassling you about the Chicago district maps, just thought I should point out a few more errors:
Near South: The See/Do key is messed up. Numbers 3 and 4 are missing, replaced by numbers 12 (Charter One Pavilion) and 10 (Dearborn Station). Charter One appears as number 4 on the map, and Dearborn Station appears as number 3; these should be switched.
Lakeview: Distance key is off; it's labeled as 0.25 when it's actually 0.5. Belmont red/brown/purple line station appears to be missing.
Near North: Distance key is off; it's labeled 0.5 when it's actually 0.25. The Mag Mile inset might be off, but I can't tell for sure.
Far Southeast Side: The main map is fine, but on the Pullman inset, the Kensington/115th Metra station is mislabeled as "Kensington/111th".
Uptown: Argyle red line stop isn't labeled (not sure if there is space for this or not), and the Berwyn red line stop is missing. The Bryn Mawr red line stop is missing and could fit on the map, but it falls completely outside the district boundaries by several blocks so it probably isn't that important.
North Lincoln: The main map is fine, but on the Lincoln Square inset, the distance key is labeled as 125 kilometers (!!!); I'm assuming this was supposed to be 125 meters.
That's all I have for now. I'd fix these myself if that were possible/if I knew how. Eco84 17:51, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Hello from atitarev
Thanks for the warm greetings, Peterfitzgerald. Quick question (hopefully). Do you know how to add quickly an accent to a Cyrillic or Latin letter? Like this: Спаси́бо or Sharápova (I copied and pasted). --Atitarev 09:16, 14 August 2008 (EDT) --Atitarev 09:16, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Питер, помогите ещё раз с английским в новостях ("A guards mounting starts at Saint Petersburg Peter and Paul Fortress", 9 августа). Особенно я волнуюсь, будет ли понятно "a guards mounting"? По-русски это называется "развод караула", нечто подобное, но в больших масштабах, происходит во дворе Королевского дворца в Стокгольме. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:26, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Sorry about the delay in responding. I forgot about your question and then was actually travelling. You asked if the regions were solid enough to move forward on. It has been noted that the list exceeds the 7 +/- 2 guideline (see talk page). The consolidation option on the talk page there is a decent one. I'll get on it as soon as I can. OldPine 07:01, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
Well, yeah they're stable until someone comes along and doesn't like them :) I believe they're in good shape, though I admit I've been distracted and lost interest in the project (and Boston). I attempted to list every town in each subregion, so I think you can follow where the lines are drawn. Note that the Quabbin subregion in Central Massachusetts carves some towns out of the eastern portion of the Pioneer Valley county subregions. Don't hesitate to ask me any questions. OldPine 23:09, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/opinion/20gorbachev.html?th&emc=th – cacahuate talk 09:43, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
Hi from Crowsnest
Hi Peter, Thanks for the complement. I really spun-off here as I wanted to get something down in text form. My real passion is for OpenStreetMap and I am having fun mapping out the Crowsnest Pass via GPS, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Canada:Alberta:Crowsnest_Pass
There is a group who have just release a history-route map of places in the Pass. There is no copyright statement so I'm trying to get in touch with the author so see if he/she will license the text under CC. Would be nice to import this into the pages for the separate towns.
Is it legit to take other people's CC work and relicense under CC-SA? Or do you have to exactly match terms?
Thanks for the compliment
Hi Peter. Cheers for the note on my Talk page. The support is appreciated! Tarr3n 13:54, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
Hi Peter, I have made all the last minute adjs as per star nom page. I tried to readjust the color areas per 'Loin neighborhoods but wasn't able to snap them neatly to the street grid. I wonder can I ask you to tweak it please?
I hope this is clear, if not let me know. One last thing, looking at it I forgot to put a "1." beside the first drink listing, could you oblige whilst you're at it? Thanks again Asterix 18:46, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
St Pete status
Thanks for your thoughts on the St Pete article. I'm trying to develop it as fast as I can, but if others beat me to it, all the better. As for restaurants, yes, there are a million, but I suspect there will have been significant turnover since 2003. Any Uzbek restaurants you can add would be great - there are too few now, and the one closest to me has been boarded up for about a year now. Would be glad to collaborate somehow on looking into your old favorites.--Andrewsyria 02:12, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
In fact I haven't done for some time. I think the best way to do it would be to use Special:Export and Special:RecentChanges to track changes to the site. -- Mark 04:52, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
I just added a couple sentences to the Chicagoland article to emphasize the ties to Southeast Wisconsin and Northern Indiana. If you do an article on Lake County (Indiana), then we could specify that that and Kenosha are often included in Chicagoland--either at the beginning, the end or both.
I guess what I'm trying to avoid is having a summary of Lake County that appears both in Northern Indiana and in Chicagoland--likewise with Kenosha and SE Wisconsin. It just seems like bad organization to me--as the sections evolve in the natural wiki way, they either have to be kept manually in synch or else they'll diverge in ways that are not helpful to the user of the site (e.g., having to look two places to get all the useful info--or mistakes being corrected in one place but not the other). Keeping them separate and cross-referenced would be my preference--which I guess I've made clear; my apologies if I'm belaboring the point.
Anyway, since you and I seem to be the only ones currently paying attention to the Chicagoland page, I'm wondering what you think of the changes I've made to it--I'm a newcomer to Wikitravel and I'm trying to bring the page more in line with the ideal form of a regional article, but I'm not precisely clear what that is. Am I doing the right thing with the attractions, for instance? And was getting rid of the hotels en masse the right thing to do? If those all didn't seem like they had been put there by PR agents, I might have been more circumspect.
Nareek 17:26, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
That's an excellent draft map, and it does a good job of pointing out some of the challenges of making Colorado regions. In a "flatter" state, use of latitude and longitude, or at most reliance on highways, usually provides adequate guidance in setting up regions. When regions are defined by mountain ranges (and, usually, the borders of those regions by the resulting valleys), however, things meander, and highly non-intuitive "regions" result if one aims for consistency in transportation routes, regional attractions, and so on. Actually, Arizona is even more of a pain in this regard than Colorado is...
It's probably most practical to consider the "black" region part of Northwestern Colorado, although perfectly sensible arguments can be made either way. One reason is that the northwest region otherwise gets rather short shrift in terms of destinations and attractions; may as well give it Aspen, Glenwood Springs and Grand Junction to beef up the content somewhat, although Aspen "feels" more like part of the southwest or South Central Colorado regions in many regards. For destinations along the border, there are always hard choices -- and one of the things about a mountain state is that the destinations will be along the borders, because valleys bearing the roads, rivers and other things that define the borders are exactly where the cities are built. One challenge is to come up with a simple, tidy description of the resulting western regions, but it looks like you've made headway on that, at least graphically.
To me the distinction between the Denver region and others is less of a problem. One simple criterion works: if it's urban, it's part of the Denver region; if it's rural, put it in one of the others. Your draft does quite a good job with that, although my wife's brother's house probably gets bisected by the western edge of the Denver region ... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 21:20, 27 August 2008 (EDT)
Питер, взгляните на User:Sworldist. Это выглядит как будто, учётная запись создана только для рекламы сайта. В Википедии это считается нарушением, а здесь? -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:36, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
Hi, thanks for the compliments on the Lower Mainland map and the link to the Regions Map Expedition. I like maps so I'd be happy to chip in help out (although slowly since I don't have too much free time and fixing up Vancouver and area is my first priority).
One question about map making -- are we allowed to trace a copyrighted image to make a map? I'd like to think that style things added by the map maker are copyrighted but the shape of the earth and street layout isn't! Thanks. Shaund 11:13, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
Help with Duplicate pages for 1 City
Hey Peter, do you know how to fix a problem of there being two pages for one city? Springboro, Ohio has two pages, Springboro and Springboro (Ohio). The first one is the more up to date version, and the second one has been abandoned. How can I delete the second page, and make sure no other pages link to the duplicate? Thanks.Jtesla16 18:10, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
Thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Does Wikitravel have a system of Service Awards or any fun ways to encourage and recognize contributions? You seem due for more than a few. If you're not familiar with the idea | here is an example. Jtesla16 01:24, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the help.
Hi, firstly, yes I am bit bummed that no one read the article, however, I was certainly not referring to you — who has diligently read all of the other noms.
As regards me taking the article down 50 mins early...I was unaware, but now that I have checked, yes it was 45 mins early. However, I'm sure it says that we've 14 days in total to have a discussion about it...so if you had of intended on making any changes, technically that would have only left me with 45 mins to rectify — otherwise it would be the "slush pile." Imo, any comments should come in at least 24 hours prior to the deadline to allow the nominator at least some time to rectify the mistakes. Asterix 15:26, 3 September 2008 (EDT)
It was just missing thumb on the image. I've fixed and it is now displaying correctly. --Nick 03:16, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
Qualifications for "usable" article status
Peter, on your Maryland Expedition, you spell out here: Wikitravel:Maryland_Expedition#Current_priorities - Very close to usable, and should get there in no time with a little collective push. Needs: at least 2 Drink listings; a couple Get out destinations; addresses, where listings lack them. Are these sort of qualifications for "usable" article status spelled out anyplace? I am currently having a conflict with a new contributor who I believe is promoting articles prematurely. gamweb 14:47, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
Wikipedia legal violations
Gamweb and myself have been disputing over his contributions to Florida pages. I contend that he is data dumping from wikipedia and the yellowpages. The following pages are straight wikipedia-copy-and-pastes: Palatka from wikipedia, Sebring from wikipedia, Canaveral_National_Seashore from wikipedia, Fort Myers from wp, Escambia County (Florida) from wp, DeLand from wp, Sanford (Florida) from wp. These are merely the latest examples I could dig up in his recent edits. I believe this activity to be much more widespread by this user. What can be done to stop this? Jtesla16 19:01, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
Fyi: the stuff I fixed up were mere phonebooks of info, not copyvios. -- Colin 22:26, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
Wikipedia & Wikitravel
Peter, I have attempted to "rechew" any text that I may have seen at Wikipedia as an example. In the case of Canaveral National Seashore, I found a source of Public Domain text from the National Park Service (an agency of the US Government), which Wikipedia cannot claim as their own copyrighted work. However, if you have any problems with anything else I have added here, let me know. I left you a related message on Wikitravel shared a few days ago, if you could take a look please. gamweb 20:31, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
Hi Peter. Cheers for the compliments on my Talk Page. It led me to have a nose at your user page, which reminded me of some work I meant to do on St Davids (I had to find out where your favourite "country pub" was, but didn't expect it to be in one of my favourite spots in the World). I see Edinburgh is on your wishlist - do give me a shout if you make it. Tarr3n 05:20, 9 September 2008 (EDT)
New York (City)
In "Getting In" section, link for JFK airport (as of 1430 local, 11 Sept, results in 404 error. Please check/correct as needed. Thanks for great site. John Henne
I don't see any display ads, just the Google ones over on the right. Am I missing something? I don't think I've got an ad-blocker active. LtPowers 17:33, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
You will not grasp her with your mind
PS: Чтобы не нарушать вашу забастовку по поводу рекламы, вы выберите лучший вариант, а я могу сам внести в статью... ;-) -- Sergey kudryavtsev 03:15, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
Hey Peter... You seem to be the most active admin on line these days, so thought you'd be the best person to contact... The "Off the Beaten Path" is three days overdue for a changing, so wondered if you could you do the honors. Cheers... WindHorse 23:05, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
Spain regional hierarchy
Hi Peter: I've finally reorganised the top-level regions in Spain, so please take a look. The Spain page itself might need some adjustment to the layout (I'm not expert enough to attempt that) because of the shorter "Regions" section now.
But maybe you can slot in a new map ;-)
Thanks, Jim Jnich99 09:43, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
I'll give it some thought! Cheers Jnich99 09:42, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
The region map for Africa is not showing, although the image is here: [] - I looked into it, but can't figure out what is wrong, so some help would be appreciated :-) Sertmann 10:28, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Dear Mr. Peter,
I understand that you are very passionate about travel. And that you are making great effort to maintain many of the travel pages in this wiki. On the contrary. I would request not to edit/truncate any text without validating that it is right or wrong.
I thought that these pages are for public, to contribute, enrich with information. I have noticed that you have reverted some edits in the past few days several times where as the information added was absolutely correct, valid and more than real.
I also noticed that you are from US. In case you think that this message also needs to be validated, you can contact me (firstname.lastname@example.org) for further information on the place. I am going to this place since 2003.
Have a great day
Thanks for the message, I was wondering how articles become guides. Thanks heapsLex 19:06, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
I know it's a bit to ask for, but could you do some proof reading on the article - I'm not a native speaker, so that prose must be perfect part, is a bit intimidating. Also if you could look through it and tell me if anything missing, then i'll work on that and hopefully nominate it - once that - and the bus route map, is finished.
Sertmann 13:59, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the message
Maps and stuff
Hi Peter, thanks for the kind words on the NZ map. As I was putting it up, a question came to mind... What should we do with the old Factbook maps? I'd like to think the new maps are so good the Factbook maps are redundant and we can remove reference to them. :-)
But just in case we're attached to them, let me know. Shaund 01:34, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
The Tanzania Regions section has "Pembwe and the Southeast" as a region. I believe that it would make more sense to rename this region/page to "Coastal Tanzania" and to remove Pemba (not "Pembwe" that I'm aware of) and either make a new page for it, or move it to the Zanzibar page. I started to do this, but thought I'd ask you first since it looks like you came up with the original TZ region scheme. Also, regarding the map; I will have to figure out how to re-color the regions, and it looks like "Tobora" should be "Tabora" (but then I was wondering if that was intentional). And I may have question about renaming the page. Anyway if you have suggestions for any of this I'd appreciate them. Thanks. Alingelb 11:35, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
Питер, переведите, пожалуйста, в Saint Petersburg (Russia) моё объявление о закрытии "Горьковской" (в самом конце раздела "Метрополитен" в ru:Санкт-Петербург). Я думаю, что иностранцы, в большинстве своём не понимающие русский, будут обескуражены, что поезда проходят мимо этой станции. А ведь именно оттуда удобнее всего идти в Петровавловскую крепость. Рекомендация пользоваться в часы пик (по будням с 08:30 до 10:00 и c 18:00 до 19:00) "Спортивной", а не "Петроградской" тоже важна. В первый день люди стояли в толпе перед входом на "Петроградскую" аж 15-20 минут! За это время они пешком вполне дойдут до "Спортивной", а заодно увидят великолепный Князь-Владимирский собор. -- Sergey kudryavtsev 04:25, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
Hi Peter I'm Boris from Rome , I've been so disappointed to see you changed again the Roman districts without answer to my suggestions that I left on your talk page last week... Dear Peter , please don't merge the Roman districts into a few districts because Rome is so different and full of history that have to be explained in every part of it ! For example with the merged version the Trevi Fountain is located into the Modern Rome ?!?!? or Aventino and Testaccio are merged but they are completely different , the Testaccio one is a popular district of Rome meanwhile Aventino is a luxury district for diplomates !!! I could continue for hours...I was born in Rome and I live in Rome and this week-end I'll make a rational work into this section and I'll add several information about every district I passed this matter to my uncle architecht and town planner professor Racheli ( username Pasquino ) that he knows very well as the Rome districts are divided . Please let me know . Ciao
Good Afternoon from Rome My name is Prof. Alberto Maria Racheli , I've been instructed to carry out this work on the neighborhoods of Rome by Boris , my grandson has asked me to fix this issue , because in his opinion this division is pretty weak compared to the rich history of Rome. Basically I agree with him, passionate student of urban planning, that the division should be optimized creating at least 7-8 large areas of the historical center and creating even 4 large areas outside the center and Ostia, with its magnificent ancient ruins. Let me know if you agree to be able to work. Dear Greetings Alberto Pasquino 19:34, 19 October 2008 (CET)
Possible xenophobic entries
Hi, Peter. Please read my entry on the Portugal Talk page. Thanks. --Xyzt1234 04:39, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
Hi Peter, many thanks for the welcome.Hopefully i will be able to contribute ...and will keep in touch Colinc 13:58, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
Contains two 50 markers and no 39. Great map otherwise! -- Colin 18:22, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
New York Vandalism
Hey Peter, just saw you were online, and I need some help. I reverted an edit to New York city, but since the vandalism continued while I reverted, it someone how lost the "By Subway" and "On foot" sections, even though I have the last edit - and i don't know quite how to go about fixing that Sertmann 21:50, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
Hello. Here are the changes I suggest to be made on the districts map of Istanbul:
I don’t know any online city map of Istanbul to create a map out of for Wikitravel, but I’ll let you know if I come across one one day.--Vidimian 08:18, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
COTM - Copenhagen
Hey Peter, please take a look over at the Collaboration of Month Nomination page, and the Copenhagen entry. Also I'd really like some comments whether you'd be willing (and able) to help with writing up the main article. Kind regards - Sertmann 17:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)
Map - Downtown Edmonton
I've seen some of your maps and I think they're beautiful work, that's why I was wondering if you were up for a small project, see Talk:Edmonton/Central and go to the bottom, thanks! Keep smiling, ee talk 20:54, 6 November 2008 (EST).
I screwed up, plain and simple. There have been times in the past when having the (foo)guide template caused the erroneous pronouncement that the thing bearing the template was a Guide article. That certainly isn't a problem with the existing Cityguide template. I've reverted it. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 20:32, 9 November 2008 (EST)
Check collabroation of the month page
Hey I was curious, how do you get the little talk button next to your user name when you sign posts? I've been looking around for the answer, and I'm sure it's staring me right in the face, but I can't find it. Could you help me? PerryPlanet 11:46, 14 November 2008 (EST)
Edmonton Wiki Travel Press
I am talking with Jpatokal on whipping up a Edmonton travel guide book. I was wondering, since you did a fine job with Chicago, you'd be able to help A BIT with how things work and small edits. Would you be interested? Keep smiling, ee talk 13:34, 15 November 2008 (EST).
I nominated Edmonton for DESTINATION OF THE MONTH in the nomination page...you seem to be experienced, so I'd love your opinion. Check it out! Thank - you! Keep smiling, ee talk 12:16, 17 November 2008 (EST).
I have something to pick at you. What I don't get is how you can revert my edits to an edit made by a user who is so blatant in the obvious fact that she is confused and thought it was a destination. I was trying to help! Then you say" User pages are for whatever the person wants to speak of", but yet they can't talk about their company that they work for. Now I know it can be considered an edit, yet you are letting people do mistakes and not helping them, but yet are getting rid of perfectly formed wrods about people's company which a lot of I don't think want to ad, they just want to talk about their working situation. Some yes, are obvious ads. But I just don't get it anymore. Anytime I try and help with this kind of stuff, I basically get hit in the head. Sorry if I did seem harsh, although I mean what I say. Maybe something isnt clear to me. Keep smiling, edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 20:31, 18 November 2008 (EST).
Thanks for the welcome! Yes, with all the talk of the inauguration in DC, I figured it would be a good idea to have the travel guide updated. That section was seriously overworked and hadn't been updated since 2006. What I would really like to do is flesh out more of the itineraries. Do some that are "non-monument" tours (i.e. more city-oriented as opposed to just the National Mall). -Epicadam 13:07, 19 November 2008 (EST)
We should probably leverage Obama-mania, worldwide phenomenon that it is, a little more heavily. What do you think about writing a brief Obama itinerary? You have a lot of the pieces already. We could work him into the main Chicago article intro as well. Gorilla Jones 00:42, 20 November 2008 (EST)
Re: Edit Ecuador
My pleasure I'm the web master of a tourist agency and I don't like publicity spam in wikis specially because I will use and contribute to this wiki. --Tapirlodge 11:17, 21 November 2008 (EST)
Hey Peter, I was wondering if you could go to my talk page and it should be the second last topic, "Raja1020", and just read over both our opinions, etc. on the topic and could you post your thoughts, I would love a 3rd opinion. I don't mind if you go against me-most people do so on here anyways, just voice your opinion in a polite manner, its a rather awkward situation. Thanks! ZOMG meteor on the prairies yesterday!!edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:58, 21 November 2008 (EST).
I was wondering where they were-appears they haven't been around in a long long time. What happened? I tried looking but came with no results. I find it odd because they are the founders. I was just thinkin you'd know since you seem to know a lot about this joint. Thanks. Keep Smiling, edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 21:43, 23 November 2008 (EST).
Australia's Northern Territory
Hey Peter, I hope you're well. I was wondering if you would be able to offer me some guidance regarding the pages I have contributed to. I am really interested in getting all the pages up to guide level if not stars, I know it's a big job but I think this region has a lot to offer travelers who are after new experiences. I have been referring to the manual of style as I populate each article, but if there is anything obvious that you can see is missing, or any way I can make these pages better I would love it. Lex 22:36, 23 November 2008 (EST)
Could use your help
Since you are the Chicago-guru; I think you could seriously help with my proposal in Talk:Edmonton/Central at the bottom-it would be super duper appreciated. Keep Smiling, edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 23:40, 24 November 2008 (EST).
The Mumbai page seems to be blocked by the spam filter. I just wanted to add a warning box for the current terroist attack that is ongoing. Can you do it as an admin? jan 16:21, 26 November 2008 (EST)
Thanks --StregaNona 00:53, 28 November 2008 (EST) oh and Happy Holidays! :)
Hey, Peter, what's up with reverting StregaNona on sight? I don't see anything incriminating in his/her contribution history. LtPowers 19:44, 28 November 2008 (EST)
Any particular reason why you reverted Millersburg? I was just told by Texugo that it was allowed to have what I added there. You guys really need to work on consistency if you insist on policing everything. What the heck am I allowed to post if one of you says it's okay and another comes behind and wipes it out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Silenyjizda (talk • contribs)
I was not 'spamming' my hotel. It isn't even 'my' hotel and is only a place of lodging that I frequent on regular basis when visiting and know a great deal about it and its location. I frequent it and a few others as well which I intended to list. I was only placing the information in the areas of interest in which this particular lodging facility is located using a format that is still used on other listings. While I understand the 'placing it only in the closest city' rule I still find issue with why another lodging facility is listed in Holmes County page but not the one I have tried to list or any others for that matter. The particular one that still stands there is located within walking distance to the one I am trying to list with the same Millersburg city address. Your rules at best are inconsistent and unequally applied as I've seen and pointed out. Having also read over the information regarding the area Amish population on the page I find major points being incorrect or greatly misunderstood and misrepresented. Having friends that are former Amish and Amish alike I was interested in correcting these errors with realistic factual information. However, it appears that anything I write at this point will be deleted en masse by any of the countless people here that are not enforcing a level field. That being the case I have no real desire at this point to really provide anymore of what could be considered valuable information to the average or seasoned traveler. Best of luck having anyone else even try in the near future.--Silenyjizda
Hi Peter: thanks for pointing the policy on lists out to me. Things have gotten busy at work recently, so I've had less time to look at Wikitravel, but I'll be sure to keep this in mind when I start up again. Best regards, Jim Jnich99 05:17, 3 December 2008 (EST)
Please stop deleting my listings
Dear Peter, From what i can see from the recent changes list you are erasing the listings for my business acadia park kayak tours from pages for different areas and towns in Maine. Please stop this. I am a legitimate business relevant to these locations and deserve to be listed as much as anyone else —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brescian (talk • contribs)
Hi Peter - I noticed that the most recent edit to the Moshi page deleted a security warning about Buffalo Hotel. I wasn't sure if that was desirable, so I noted it on the talk page. Is this good / is there a preferred way of handling cases like this ? Thanks. - Alingelb 07:58, 7 December 2008 (EST)
how come my costa rica cities mods keep getting removed? the city and link of "Quesada - the largest city by far in the country's North, surrounded by hot springs popular with Costa Rican vacationers" is a small city that has 0 tourist value, the one I add Jaco is one of the most popular beach cities in costa rica. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs)
The policy says external links should go to: "Official tourist offices for a destination." I thought I was following the guides by linking to Monterey County's official travel site. www.montereyinfo.org is the official website of the Monterey County Convention and Visitors Bureau. If that is not an official tourist office for a destination, then what qualifies? Rednikki 13:28, 10 December 2008 (EST)
Saw you made a map of Kurils when I searched though Wikimedia commons, and was just wondering if you have any SVG with an outline of Sakhalin island itself lying around, that I could develop on? --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 19:35, 10 December 2008 (EST)
Collaboration of the month
I added Cuzco and Manila on the Wikitravel:Collaboration_of_the_week but they didn't show up on the page. When I edit the text I can see my addins. What is wrong? Thanks,jan 14:47, 16 December 2008 (EST)
Peter, thanks for your encouragement on the work for the page. Medellín is a nice city and deserves a Wikitravel article to match. CONOCER
I am just wondering, as Edmonton is supposidly CotM next month, will the new format via CotMs change Edmonton being the next CotM because I am getting stuff ready for it and am kind of excited - I mean I hope to make it quite successful. Or, will it just fit into the regular format for the new style? I hope you see where I am coming from and I am totally sorry if this was already brought up as I may have forggotten/didnt read parts. Sorry! edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 17:32, 18 December 2008 (EST).
Lookiing at that Cotm page and your formula for Mexico City, I can honestly say that three nominations have been made already that look similar to that format for noms: Copenhagen, Calgary, and Edmonton. Although, quite honestly I see where you are changing things, I mean the current format only requires a basic list. It will be also good because the people nominating will have to put work into noms which make it not get spammed as easily and shows the people really care, good work. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:08, 19 December 2008 (EST).
Thanks for your tactful direction. I guess that was a bit presumptuous to change the heading. Just getting started here.
Please explain to me the reason for not allowing the link to www.dominical.biz. Is this because it is a portal? It appears that links to internal pages are permitted?
I keep looking for you to pop up as an Obama Cabinet apointee. Are you holding out for wikiczar? 2old 15:23, 19 December 2008 (EST)
Hi Peter! I remember you saying in the CotM page that we will need someone to manage the CotM system when the new system is impleneted. I was wondering if I could do that. But before I fully agree or anything, would you mind throwing out some of the stuff I would do? I mean, to me, it sounds like an interesting thing to do, but I wanna know what I am getting into. What do you think? I could do well, and be fair! edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:21, 19 December 2008 (EST).
From one Russo-phile to another, could you add a map of central Vladivostok to your queue? I don't think I'll be able to raise it to guide status for lack of Buy, Eat, and Drink options - I was there more than four years ago, and didn't do much of the three - but I think it could become a pretty useful article for travelers. Gorilla Jones 21:59, 21 December 2008 (EST)
Internal compasses and all that.
Thanks for your comment.
Montreal is a unique city European by nature and just a bit offset. Although we do our best to make tourists as comfortable as possible, notwithstanding the snow, if you ask directions they will be based on our skewed compass.
When can I expect a visit from you?
District map for Detroit
Hey, Peter! Detroit needs a map for its districts. I see that you've made some, such as the Chicago one, and I was wondering if you could create one for Detroit? I'm not sure what info you need to create one, so whatever you need to know I can tell you. Merry Christmas! --Local hero 16:28, 23 December 2008 (EST)
Hi Peter! I know we've had it rough together and we have had arguements, but I still want to wish you a Merry Christmas :). Why? You have been extremely helpful despite the Disagreements and have helped me figure out the rules. I really want to thank you. All the best in the New Year :). Happy holidays, edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 12:43, 25 December 2008 (EST).
Hi - I see from your userpage you are an admin - I'm a wikipedia editor (generally) and one of our regular vandals has been busy here Draafstein is a hoax - thought I'd stop by and let someone know. --Cameron Scott 18:49, 26 December 2008 (EST)
I just wanted to give you my reasoning and a small question
Hopefully, this doesn't come across as anything wrong. I don't see how it would. Anyways, the point of me not reading everything relevent to helping me understand a topic in travelers pub is because, well, I don't have the time and I would be completely bored. Besides, I said I would read some of it. I shouldn't have to be bored or feel like I need to read certain things ... rules aside. There is just too much reading because I looked at it and I would rather be doing other Wikitravel stuff, or, well, living my life. Anyways, you probably wonder why I am telling you this...well just cause you reverted the comment in travelers pub so maybe you didn't understand myside. Anyways, I also have a question. Why did that coment get reverted? I don't see why it was harmful or waseful or bad or against rules. So - to help me for future reference could you please help me by explaining - that would be really appreciated. Hope it's cleared up and we don't get into arguements. edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 21:37, 30 December 2008 (EST).