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That's the standard welcome; you might also want to check out Wikitravel:Welcome, Wikipedians (if you haven't already), which highlights Wikitravel's idiosyncrasies. Thanks much for the comments (and especially the map!) at Talk:New York (state)#Regions again—sorry I missed your comment earlier, I've now responded. --Peter ^Talk 20:04, 26 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] New York regions

Thanks again for all the help with that! It's nice to see a new talented contributor pop up—I hope you stick around. --Peter ^Talk 04:51, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Reducing lists to 9

With regards to removing Penn Yan, I thought you might be interested in this discussion, where the consensus was to allow longer lists if the article hasn't actually been subdivided yet. Not that you were in error—like you said, that didn't even have an article yet. --Peter ^Talk 04:40, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

And to allow longer lists if the region article shouldn't be sub-divided :) – cacahuate ^talk 21:11, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Walt Disney World Resort

In view of our policy, I'm wondering why you added the links to the guides in this article. -- OldPine 12:01, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

I guess it works for that subsection, but I don't like the listing of other guides (my objection was not based on their being secondary or worse) as they are specifically listed under things not to link to. I agree that this article might be a special case, but I fear it might start the slippery slope. If Fodor's guide to say, Napa Valley (or any number of other complex destinations where it's probably true), is better than ours, should we link to that, too? OldPine 13:11, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Relevant → User talk:DenisYurkin/Paper travel guides – cacahuate ^talk 11:50, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Wikitravel:Administrator nominations

Hey, I nominated you for sysop status, please leave a comment indicating whether you are willing to accept! There are no requirements whatsoever, save logging in something like every 3 months. Feel free to mull it over too—we'll leave the nomination up at least 14 days anyway. --Peter ^Talk 17:53, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Delete Be Smart When It Comes To Disney World

I cut and pasted information from this page into the Walt Disney World resort page. That page can be deleted now. —The preceding comment was added by 70.232.35.201 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Admin

I just changed your status on Wikitravel from nothing to "sysop" per the nomination. Congrats and thanks for taking on the extra responsibility. If you have any questions, as always, feel free to ask. -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 09:28, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Florida Map

I few of us really like your Florida map with the cities and points of interest, and would like to use it on the main Florida page. One comment though was that some think the Southwest Florida area is a little empty, can you consider adding Fort Myers to that map, then it would be perfect for the main page. Thank you in advance.Jtesla16 10:13, 6 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Florida Disagreement

I noticed Gamweb has complained about you deleting things in the past, and him and I are getting into much the same argument. My opinion is that he is dumping information from wikipedia and the yellowpages here. Some of our argument points are Lakeland#Eat, Ormond_Beach#Cope, and Florida#Learn. I think this information is not useful to a traveler and does not belong here, and therefore have been removing it. Am I out of line here?Jtesla16 11:35, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

Another user has already cleaned up the Lakeland eat and removed the Florida learn sections. Hopefully that builds consensus for my case.Jtesla16 12:04, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Star nomination for Walt Disney World

Hi there! As you've probably already seen, we've all made nice progress on the Walt Disney World article, and I even nominated it for Star status. Unfortunately, the discussion has been rather negative, and I've reached a point where I can no longer comprehend what is expected of a Star article. I also noticed that the discussion is dominated by no more than three other users. Since you are a docent can you add your thoughts? I'm sure it would help a lot. Thanks!

User:Jonathan_784 9/16/08 10:40 PM CDT

Just added a new infobox to the article about a new resort opening in 2009. User:Jonathan_784 9/23/08 6:30 PM CDT

I have just re-started the Star nomination discussion. Jonathan 784 10:28, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Walt Disney World redirect problem

HI! There seems to be a problem with the redirect of the Walt Disney World article. See for yourself:

• Walt Disney World shows the page as of 9/24/08
• Walt Disney World Resort shows the page as of 9/30/08

Can you figure out what's wrong? Jonathan 784 20:40, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

[edit] New infobox

Hi there! Just added a new infobox to Walt Disney World#Get out. But I'm not sure if my writing is precisely clear, so please add more to it if you can. :) Jonathan 784 15:51, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

What would you say about adding this image to the Get out section? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/Buzz_Lightyear_at_the_Kennedy_Space_Center.jpg After all, the phrase "To Orlando ... and beyond" comes from Buzz Lightyear's catchphrase. Furthermore, this NASA-created image, created for a public awareness campaign, is not copyrighted. Jonathan 784 12:58, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] New changes to Walt Disney World

An anonymous user just made 4 alterations to the article - please check them for accuracy. Also, did you know that I added more to the Star discussion? Jonathan 784 11:44, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Thanks for your contributions!

Thanks for your work in Edmonton/West End. I hope you are learning lots about Edmonton Metro! Have a great day:>!!!!! Keep smiling, Edmontonenthusiast 15:09, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

[edit] image

to bring this from TALK:EDMONTON i wanted to make sure i edited my pictures. i put taken on _______ by edmontonenthusiast. check my image. thanks! keep smiling, ee ^talk 21:18, 7 November 2008 (EST).

[edit] AnonUser

Why'd you unblock that user? He(she) vandalised multiple articles with inapporpriate words. I don't get it. He deserves a ban! Keep smiling, ee ^talk 21:00, 12 November 2008 (EST).

Just an FYI, the blocking policy has been relaxed somewhat over time - if a user is moving pages, abusing others, or being a persistent nuisance then a short block seems to be OK. As an example, there's a guy who logs on from Canada on a weekly basis and changes pages for a few hours unless someone puts a block on the IP, so blocking isn't ENTIRELY bad. But it's generally only used to stop someone who is being a persistent problem, so if the user goes away there's no need to use a block unless they come back. I'm sure there are talk pages where this has been worked out, but that seems to be the current consensus. -- Ryan • (talk) • 22:18, 12 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] Edm

Could you check Talk:Edmonton and Talk:Edmonton/Central for me, I would love your feedback (and anyone else who is lookin) on the sections at the bottom. Keep Smiling, edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 20:34, 23 November 2008 (EST).

[edit] Help

Could you help in this/this situation? It is a little over whelming. I think it's an edit war. Keep smiling, edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 20:43, 25 November 2008 (EST).

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for your fabulous imput on my talk page about the situation. You are a real help and I am glad you were calm. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 10:09, 27 November 2008 (EST).

[edit] Gallgaher

Hey LT, I was wondering if youd be interested in checking out the Edmonton page as I uploaded a new skyline photo. I don't know if it is any good, I used some effects on it and I would love your input. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 18:14, 28 November 2008 (EST).

So there isnt any confusion Image:EdmontonGallagher.JPG edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 13:20, 29 November 2008 (EST).

[edit] Judean Desert‎

Hi. Just wanting to see advice on what's going on over the vfd on this article...

It has been nominated for understandable reasons. However, the page creator has rebutted this and is removing the vfd tag from the page concerned. I've tried explaining that there is policy governing deletion nominations.

Just want to make sure am not being too heavy handed. I'm going to step back from it now as I don't want to get into a major argument, and I feel it may be best for an admin(s) to make some sort of decision, give advice, etc.

Thanks, Nrms 10:30, 16 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Merry Christmas

Hi Lt! I just wanted to give you a Merry Christmas and I hope your day is good. I really do want to thank you for the support, opinions, and helping me find the rules on the site. All the best to you in the New Year. Happy holidays, edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 12:41, 25 December 2008 (EST).

[edit] Route icons

Hi there! Merry Christmas and stuff! Glad to see you are plunging forward with the routeboxes! When you upload a new icon, please do us the favor of adding it to the list page at Wikitravel:Route icons so that others can locate it easily. I went ahead and added the two images you just uploaded to it, so don't worry about that. Also I just noticed on your Shared gallery page what great mapwork you are doing. Super spiffy! Keep it up! Texugo 13:52, 25 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Ripley, England?

Hi, I know that you ment well, but the page I created on Ripley, was about a small town in Bruce County, Ontario, Canada. In other words, not England. I'm new, but I'll try and figure out how to change it back, or change it to "Ripley (Canada)". If it isn't changed when you see it next, change it for me please? Thanks. Ripley 23:09, 31 December 2008 (EST)

[edit] Most recent Walt Disney World edit

Hi! Just adjusted the article because some of the URL's were broken and redirected to the main page of the official WDW website. You might be interested in my addition to the Buy section. :) Jonathan 784 23:56, 5 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] peter

Lt, can you please tell Peter to not revert my user talk page. It is my page and I can do with it what I please. Or is there a reason? Could you help? Maybe investigate please. Thankyou. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 19:04, 6 January 2009 (EST).

I also dont get why him and Cacahuate always delete my comments on their pages. It is rude and I dont do it to them. i just dont get it anymore. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 16:26, 8 January 2009 (EST).

To be very clear, I won't remove your comment from my talk page or anywhere else, provided they do not request information that has already been given to you (many times), are not disruptive to an ongoing conversation, and are not abusive. You can comment however you like on your talk page—that is a consensus we achieved at Wikitravel talk:How to handle unwanted edits. I consider much of your talk page involvement to simply be attention seeking and/or abuse, and will revert accordingly. --Peter ^Talk 16:44, 8 January 2009 (EST)

What is with you and abuse? I haven't abused you at all so I dont get your deal. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 16:46, 8 January 2009 (EST).

I believe by "abusive", Peter meant rude and incivil. Which, unfortunately, you have been on occasion. You will do best by working on your areas of expertise while observing the way the community operates without your participation, and learning from that observation. LtPowers 18:48, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Well I am not being incivil but honestly I may be rude, but he is even more rude. He is the one that aggravates me to rudeness. If he means that by abusive, then he should try different words because that is a bad interpreation as it is not at all what I am doing. One that can drive me nuts surely can come up with a better word.

You and only you are responsible for your actions. Displaying magnanimity when faced with adversity is a virtue you would do well to cultivate. LtPowers 22:02, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Wrong Peter is responsible for my actions. Why is it that he doesn't get talking to when he reverts edits on his talk page when they aren't abusive but when I do it's a case? Why is it that when he aggravates me and pushes me off the cliff, no one tells him to tone down? Why why why why why? I haven't got a clue. Probably because you all want him here because he did a lot on the site - and that's sad. In any rate, like I have said from the start, I mean absolutely no harm, and if it comes this sites way due to me I appologise as it was probably a my bad, but this Peter crap NEEDS to be resolved and people needa realise that it isn't just me. Also take into account how unwelcoming this site has been to someone who is new, and stuff. Literally, all this crap has made me loose motivation to even contribute to this site. There is no motivation because there is no reason to me right now. It's not worth it really. That's why all the stuff you see from me really is discussions and not articles, and even at that it is very little. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 22:09, 8 January 2009 (EST).

Right, this stops now. Peter is not responsible for your actions. I don't care how much he provokes you, it is your responsibility, and yours only, to react in a calm and civil manner. Period. If you can't do that, then you don't have much of a future on this site, because right now you are irreparably damaging your reputation. I can't emphasize enough that you are on extremely thin ice. You don't take constructive criticism well, and you don't demonstrate an understanding of the consequences of your actions. You promised to stay out of contentious conversations and just focus on editing travel guides, but you haven't done that. Dealing with you has occupied an inordinate amount of time for me and several other people on this site.

Do you want to know why Peter reverts your edits so often? It's because it's quicker than explaining something to you over and over and over again. I personally would not do that, and have not, but these longtime editors don't want to deal with interpersonal problems on Wikitravel; they just want to write travel guides. Your behavior obstructs that goal, by requiring a lot of attention, and that's why people are upset with you.

I will reiterate what I said above: You will do best by working on your areas of expertise while observing the way the community operates without your participation, and learning from that observation. You must ignore any conversation that doesn't directly deal with editing travel guides. You must ignore Peter no matter what he does. You must not participate in policy discussions. I am not imposing these restrictions on you; I am merely outlining what steps I think you are going to have to take to have any chance of avoiding being banned.

I will copy this post to you talk page to make sure you see it. -- LtPowers 09:01, 9 January 2009 (EST)

If I may also interject, EE, occasionally I have to just ignore things on Wikitravel. It's called a wikibreak and sometimes they're needed -- just stop working on things and get your bearing about you and start contributing when you want to again. It doesn't have to be an all out vacation or break, but, if you feel like you're getting to your wits' ends, simply do not focus on perpetuating the issues that you and Peter have been having. Simply take a few steps back, focus on contributing to guides and that's it. Do, however, realize that you shouldn't disregard advice from the community -- we're all here to see a free, open source travel guide that's useful take root and better the world for travelers and the community provides you with advice, because we all want to be successful in the project. I recommend that you listen to LT and focus on your areas of expertise and letting the conflict simmer down so that everyone around can take a step back and analyze the situation from a not-so-heated perspective. -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 11:27, 9 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] LT

LT, which branch? -- Sapphire • (Talk) • 11:46, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Starfleet. LtPowers 12:59, 9 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] why did peter delete this?

Because this involves me, I do want to add my side to this. Quite frankly, Cacahuate, Nrms is right, but he leaves you out. You and Peter are truly the only culprates to not helping this and I agree with him in that you two step aside to people who will deal with me in a proper way. If you feel I should be banned, discuss it with another admin,okay? edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 18:48, 10 January 2009 (EST).

Why would Peter delete that, see the last thing on Peter's talk page to see. I just don't get it and it is getting quite arrogant. It seems he doesn't even read it, just deletes. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 20:53, 10 January 2009 (EST).

Peter deleted it because he doesn't want to deal with you anymore, and he doesn't want your comments on his talk page. I suggest respecting his wishes. LtPowers 22:43, 10 January 2009 (EST)

What a jerk! He should be being more open minded about stuff. I do not care if what I said was rude, I'm sorry, we do not live in a sugar coated word and what Peter is doing is just plain rude. I have been more than nice to him in the past and whatnot. I have been mean to him aswell, but only in comment to what he has done. Whatever I am done with this stupid website I think. There is too much drama that it's not even worth writing stupid travel guides anymore. Nobody on here can even see where I am coming from, and use that same old harsh tone with me and whatnot (a few exceptions) but immideatly jumps to Peter on it. I am sick of being the 1 dude army against millions. I also can't believe how when matters are discussing me, for some damn stupid reason I am not allowed to join in? Well then don't talk to me. When it is talking about me - at least allow me to participate. I am done with this website I think, and I would like all discussion on me put to a halt, or discussed in my talk page. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 11:26, 11 January 2009 (EST).

I don't even know where to begin. Read your third sentence again and see if you can figure out the problem. LtPowers 15:35, 11 January 2009 (EST)

Thanks for the "help" and I read that sentance.

You say you don't care if you were rude, then complain that Peter was rude. That's called a double-standard. You might want to take a look at the role your behavior has played in this debacle. LtPowers 19:41, 11 January 2009 (EST)

I don't even know where to begin with you. I guess I have to spell it out...*clear throat*...I t-h-i-n-k t-h-i-s h-a-s g-o-n-e t-o f-a-r t-h-a-t I d-o-n-'-t e-v-e-n c-a-r-e i-f I w-a-s r-u-d-e. Do you not ever have that in real life, where whatever it was has amounted to something so big you don't even care anymore or forgot the original idea? edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 19:52, 11 January 2009 (EST).

What I am suggesting is that you may be too quick to reach that point. And even when you do reach that point, the better course of action is to take a step back and take a break from the site, rather than get angry and lash out. Because getting angry and lashing out results in further animosity, which feeds further anger on your part, and it all spirals down into the current debacle. Someone has to break that cycle. LtPowers 08:19, 12 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] New Walt Disney World edit

Hi! An anonymous user recently contibuted this:

Write down your child's name and your name, resort and cell phone number on a 3 x 5 inch index card, and place the card in your child's pocket. (If your child is a member of MedicAlert or an equivalent organization, that information should also be included on the card as well, or s/he should always be sure to wear his/her ID tag.) Instruct your child to show the card to a Cast Member (a Disney employee) in the event that you get separated. If you lose your child, notify a Cast Member immediately. Cast Members in either situation are instructed to stay with the child or parent(s) in the area where the seperation was reported was made for 10-15 minutes. After that time, both parties are brought to the Baby Care centre in that park. If the party is not reunited at that time, Cast Members will send out a message via radio for all Cast Members to be on the lookout for the child. If your child goes on a ride on his/her own, make sure you know where the ride's exit is. Arrange a place to meet with all members of your party if you become separated. Note: Try not to make your meeting place something that is too obvious, such as in front of Cinderella Castle. Crowding is likely to occur at these places.

This paragraph is bulky. How should we "fix" it? Jonathan 784 23:50, 27 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] EEarchive

Why am I even bothering talking to you, you probably don't want to "deal" with me? Probably cause you are the only person on this horrible website I can think of. Maybe I can explain it to you? I have been, lets face it, cyber bullied on this website so much that the people on here don't even care how I feel about it. I would never hurt anyone on here to the amount that they have done to me. They are jerks. I don't care, I am pointing out these jerks, Ryan, Peter, and worst is 2old. My my do I hate 2old. He has only ever commented on me in a mean way, yet he never gets a "stern" talking to, just me. You know, when I "left" this website, I said to myself, I'd come back to do 1 thing, and that was to get rid of the EEarchive. Towards the later part of the month, I thought I'd give the site one last chance, which has proven bad thinking on my part. Bottom line, I just think people don't like me here at all, and just try to bug the crap out of me, and do it in ways so that the community will side with them. Now, I contributed a bit, but I still want my EEarchive deleted. I made a very very generous compromise that it be kept, just the names be taken out, as the names aren't necessary. You guys obviously don't get it. You guys run with no emotion, and could care less (maybe not you specifically, but the site overall)about any persons feelings. You guys don't see how humiliating it would be to point someone new to the site who is questioning the rules to my "archive", I'd feel like an idiot. I'd feel like the laughing stock. I could care less if it is good reference, when people feelings are involved, that shouldn't matter. Peter should not victimize me like this, but yet he gets away with nothing, what, cause he's the top of this website? What a pile of crap. Now I just want my archive deleted, or my compromise made, and I just want to leave this site forever. But, in a sense, I still want to stay cause it can be fun making travel guides, but it hasn't been fun in months. I took the break, I am a lot calmer about everything, but it seems nobody else took the break as a time to think, and rethink. I am here now strictly to finish off the EEarchive, and nothing more now. Unless there is a real big, sudden change in the attitude of this website, once the EEarchive thing is resolved, in some way, and I know I don't need to worry about it anymore, I'll be gone. No need to deal with me or anything. Although I will pop back from time to time to make sure whatever is resolved through the EEarchive is kept going. I would also let you know I'd never ever make someone on this website cry or get shaky when they log into this site, like people such as Peter Fitzgerald have. I think I have been more than fair in everything especially considering everything that's happened. I admit I haven't been so rosy great in the past on this website, I know, Look at that stupid EEarchive. But, you will notice I appologize each time, and if I haven't then I'm sorry, cause I am sorry for all the wrong I've done here, but none of you can do the same in return? I've had people, like Shaund, who I thought were so nice and would stick up for me, actually go against me, PerryPlanet is another perfect example, as is Sertmann. I've been called a troll, which is most insulting, and I hate people thinking I'm something I'm not like that. I hate being labelled those things, I'd never label Peter or you a troll, so why me? What because I talk? So what, communication is key. I could care less if Sertmann says for me to shut up, I like to talk, whupee. So I have feelings. What, I don't disregard peoples feelings? No, I think feelings come first, otherwise you keep everything bottled up and really hurt people sometimes. What am I doing ranting this all to you? Well, Lt, I just wanted some advice on what to do, I hope that's okay. As I'd say, Keep smiling, edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 14:54, 28 February 2009 (EST).

[edit] Boracay

If you have some time to work on a Boracay map before next DoTM month change, please check my comments here. --Stefan (sertmann) ^Talk 16:57, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

[edit] news

so simple yet so powerful... i fidgeted with it for 15 min and gave up in shame.... nice work – cacahuate ^talk 16:33, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Non-Stop Flights

Doh! Just learning. I'll work on using the actual city name. Thanks —The preceding comment was added by DavidG (talk • contribs) .

[edit] WDW map

Hey, would you mind uploading your SVG for the Epcot map—I'd like to play around with it a bit. --Peter ^Talk 16:45, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Please inform me before editing my page please

Don't edit my page please, or at least not without informing me first, thanks. Claire1223 16:03, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Re: Sleep price ranges

I reset the lower price range to $0 on two of those price range boxes because I noticed that the previous one, "$82", didn't fit with some of the listings that listed "$80" as the base price. That's when it struck me that those boxes usually use "zero-to-___" or "less than ___" for the budget listings. See any of the San Francisco districts for examples. Admittedly, "under $148" is probably a better way of putting it than "$0-$148", but I was in a hurry and just slapped in "$0".

As for why I removed the Magic Kingdom one, it was because it really didn't fit what the listings said. I think the mid-range said something like "$150-$225", even though the actual mid-range listings had prices of $250 or more. I could have changed the numbers, but I thought it would be best not to dictate a system I don't understand, so I figured removing the box would be the best option until someone who had a better grasp of the situation could put down some useful numbers to classify what's really mid-range and what's splurge at Magic Kingdom. PerryPlanet ^Talk 16:17, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Gamweb

I'm pretty sure that was Gamweb, since I know there were some unpleasantness that basically led him to stop contributing here. (And I assume nli = not logged in.) But since it was an anon ip, we cannot be sure that it was him, so I'm going to revert and leave him a message. --Peter ^Talk 13:46, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Humor & Pith..

Hi - For every attempt at humor there is always someone out there that doesn't get it - hey? I've just had a go at clarifying the what you can see from which side section of the article. I certainly don't wish to discourage light-heartedness in articles. Hate to be the Wikitravel scrooge. If you think its just me that doesn't get it, feel free to revert, or if you want to have another shot, my humor-meter is always available to you. --Inas 21:13, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

The new text is definately clear, and I think (hope!) it still read in a lively way.

On a more general theme, I've been giving some thought to lively writing within a wiki framework, with this discussion, and the discussion in DC, and I might continue this dicsssion and the DC discussion at Wikitravel:Tone --inas 18:32, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Hey

Hi Lt, I thought I'd let you know I'm back. But don't worry, I'm only popping in from time to time, and am not getting involved in site politics. Mostly article stuff, although I have done one nomination over on the DotM and what not but otherwise yeah. Thanks for sticking up for me in the past and trying to sort through the previous drama(s). edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 22:09, 15 May 2009 (EDT).

[edit] rpy

Hi! What I'll do is post this here and on your talk page. I'll also look through it while I write this so I don't miss any of my thoughts and whatnot on the topic.

I'm actually doing the same for Portland (Or), as over the past while I have gotten an increased interest in the city, and will be going to it soon so that's good. I nominated it for DOTM cause I cleaned it up a bit and it seemed worthy. By the time it'd get DOTM I'd be able to upload pics so there will be more pics, and make a map perhaps.

Oh and of course I'm doing it with Edmonton & Alberta.

Anyhow, Walt Disney World. Before I get started I mind as well just say flat out the place doesn't attract me. It seems like more a place for little kids and families instead, and to me just looks tacky and overhype. I don't know, that's just how I feel - but then again I don't go and watch Disney princess on tele.

One thing I do like though is the information really. I love how you give tributes to Walt Disney and fun facts. The Understand section is amazing.

I didn't know there was a parade! Interesting. And one thing you might want to do is a climate graph like in Edmonton. They seem very strict on alcohol. In the food section I wouldn't be so quick to single out mcdonalds. maybe say there are some regular fast food chains but save the actual lists for high quality restaurants / vendors.

For me? You ask? What kind of travelling do I like to do? I like going to cities. Particularily North American ones, although I would not mind Europe. I am a urban planning geek so that would explain that. WDW looks very very suburbanized and concentrated around the highway, which I hate. I am very antisuburbs, so thats another thing that bothers me about it. Maybe if they have transit going to it, that would be a good thing to highlight. I don't really like warm cities either. Miami, Los Angeles, Honolulu, Las Vegas, Abuquerque, Phoenix, and Tampa barely interest me. San Diego is an exception, as is Texas. I like northern cities, with 4 seasons, and seem to feel more "older" I guess, although the southern cities are also old just in a different way. Rustbelt, New England, East Coast, North midwestern, Pacific Northwest, and NoCal areas of the US I like. In Canada, almost anywhere interests me, as long as it's cities. Montréal, Fredricton, Thunder Bay, Toronto, etc. I like sort of former communist countries in Europe like Germany, Poland, and Russia just cause it would be interesting to see socialism instead of capitalism, although I'd never live in those places even though they are democratic now. I like the places that either had a big influence by English or the place influenced English. So Belgium, Germany, Holland, Denmark, and Sweden interest me. Scadinavia as a whole seems pretty cool. I'd rather go to New York than Yellowstone, or Sydney than Everest, or Tokyo over the Coral Reef, or Houston over WDW basically. I don't like suburban cities at all. Maybe if WDW has a more "urban sector", although I doubt it does that would be cool to highlight. Orlando as a whole seems very suburbanized. Nearby Tampa too. And Jacksonville. Nearest would be Miami I guess or Atlanta.

Does that help? If not please let me know, or if you need more information or just a general comment please don't hesitate to reply. I'd actually like a reply, but ya don't haveto. Thankyou. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 22:15, 16 May 2009 (EDT).

[edit] Edit wars

Spare me the lecture. I reverted that edit because he deleted useful text, and explained why in the edit summary. He didn't provide a valid reason for the deletion, so I reverted it again. He stated that he was going to take care of it, and I left it alone. There's nothing wrong with that sequence of actions. Gorilla Jones 17:16, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Hi Lt

Hi Lt, sorry if I dragged you into the thing with Gorilla, now you and Peter are at argueing. Sorry. I want you to know though that I appreciate you jumping in the discussion, dispite what Peter says. I'd like you to continue, unless you don't want to as it is greatly appreciated for someone whose more neutral it seems on the topic. No offense to Peter or Gorilla, but they seem to be very biased on the topic, and still haven't let the previous annoyances go. Anyhow have a very good day, you're a great moderator. And please don't take that as kissing butt :P. edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 22:13, 23 May 2009 (EDT).

[edit] Mass map

I saw you signed up for the MA regions map. I did a bunch of work on it previously, including the state outline, counties, roads, and cities, but lost interest in finishing it because the region borders were confusing. I've uploaded it here, so you can work off of it. If you've already done the bulk of the work on your own map, I can merge relevant details later. --Peter ^Talk 12:24, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Minor WDW map error

Hi, I just noticed a minor error on your latest version of the Walt Disney World map: the locations of Fort Wilderness Campground and the Wilderness Lodge Villas are transposed. Shouldn't be that hard to fix. Jonathan 784 12:17, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Re: Osprey Ridge

I'll fix it. Jonathan 784 09:58, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Re:

OK But, it's a pity not using cat-s here. —The preceding comment was added by 84.3.178.191‎ (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Please See

The Travellers Pub for more details on the New Skype Style question I asked. I have replied back. It's so odd... +1 877 627-2525 ,--71.254.108.245 13:15, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Mid-Atlantic

I'm 24.126.73.17. I revised the language because it was speculative and boastful. I changed it to a neutral tone, taking out "America's most livable city", and "Baltimore is far less lovely" and converting it to a neutral tone. I have spoken to Peter about this. RickS 12:05, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Good job

Good job on the Hollywood Studios sub-article! Let's do the same to all the others! :) Jonathan 784 23:23, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

[edit] How do I create or edit a map?

Hi there! I would like to create new maps or edit existing ones, but I'm pretty much still a new kid on the block and I don't fully understand the map-making process here. Could you please give me a "heads-up"? Thanks!

• Tokyo Disney Resort's map is flawed. This version [1] is way better, but it's missing the locations of the Tokyo Disneyland Hotel and the Cirque du Soleil Theater.

• Disneyland Resort Paris is missing a map entirely.

Jonathan 784 10:10, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Hollywood Studios

Oh no, not essential. Perhaps with the exception of adding more info to the Narnia exhibit description, I was just trying to tighten the prose (which is always something about which people can disagree)—largely to keep me busy while reading through the article. I assume points of contention were towards the beginning? I got rid of the isIn chain in the intro, since it should be obvious from the main article which state it's in, and I think it's safe to assume that WDW/X is in WDW (and the breadcrumbs are already displayed). I was also hoping to get rid of some "experience the" expressions, since I think that fits into the category of brochure-like tone that others were describing. But by all means, edit my edits! --Peter ^Talk 23:22, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

[edit] NYC

Nope, there are still a ton of redirects to NY(c)—I got less than half. They're sloppy and break all rdf templates when you navigate through them, so they are undesirable. The more important work, though, was to make sure the whole hierarchy stayed intact. --Peter ^Talk 13:13, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Pacific Coastal Properties Removal?

I was wondering why the listing for Pacific Coastal Properties was removed. The company does offer vacation rentals in the Del Mar area, as well as many other areas in San Diego county. Please refer to one of our property pages for an example: http://www.pacificcoastalproperties.net/rental/house.html?ID=2. I have the same question for the removal of the posts from Cardiff-by-the-Sea, La Jolla, and Carlsbad. Thanks!

I just got your message--thanks,that was a very helpful explanation!—The preceding comment was added by Barkerjw1 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Directly to Jail..

I think most people in Britain and Commonwealth countries understand American spelling perfectly. I'm the furthest thing possible from a spelling pedant, and personally I don't care what spelling people use, and I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to change American spelling to Commonwealth spelling anywhere. However our policy is to use British spelling in British articles, so to change the spelling of gaol to the American jail along with a comment saying they were fixing a strange misspelling is just a mistake in terms of our policy, because the existing version was perfectly correct. All the jails in Britain have a sign on the front saying gaol. --inas 20:55, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Britain & Ireland

Sorry for my confusion. You must have wondered what I was going on about. --inas 17:18, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Psychologist discoveries..

The 7 things in memory is like a the 80/20 rule, and similar rules. More based on anecdotes and sounding right than any basis in psychology. --inas 19:29, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Re: images

Yes, I did. =) I'm trying my best, but it's a tad bit harder than I expected. However, I already did one image. Jonathan 784 10:14, 27 August 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Nusa Penida

Back in July you left this edit message at Nusa_Penida: "LtPowers (Talk | contribs) (398 bytes) (I can't find any useful content here) (undo)". Please have a look now :). I am realy pleased with this article. It is a relatively little visited and poorly known destination. I think the WT article is now better than anything in any travel guide I know for the destination. Cheers. --Burmesedays 11:26, 6 September 2009 (EDT)