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I noticed you've been very busy contributing! Thanks! Keep up the great work! Sapphire 05:07, 4 April 2006 (EDT)

Nice rewrite on Germany! Majnoona 09:03, 18 April 2006 (EDT)

[edit] Messy Thai articles

Ko Samui and many, many other Thai articles are quite messed up because User:Borndistinction dumped huge amounts of CC-licensed data from the Tourism Authority of Thailand into then. I've been cleaning them up as I go (take a look at the history of eg. Phuket), but there's still a lot of work to do... Jpatokal 21:25, 5 January 2009 (EST)

Jani, thank you for the information, then I will merciless delete that input ;-) jan 03:00, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Um, "mercilessly deleting" isn't the right option -- please try to shuffle the content into the right sections. Of course listings that don't describe the restaurant/bar at all are quite useless... Jpatokal 00:04, 23 January 2009 (EST)

Jani, have a look on the Samui main article. Sensible stuff i transferred e.g. to Bang Ruk but the long lists are total useless. I'm uncertain what to do with the Sleep part. I'm back in Samui in March but what to do until then? jan 16:15, 23 January 2009 (EST)

[edit] SIN

Sure, how much time do you have on the ground and are you looking for local or Western food? Usually I'd be happy to host a visiting Wikitraveller, but 6 AM might be pushing it a little =) Jpatokal 21:41, 18 February 2009 (EST)

D'oh, I'm probably going to be away on that weekend. The most authentic Singaporean breakfast is kaya toast, coffee and eggs at any Ya Kun Kaya or Killeney Kopitiam outlet (see Singapore). Maxwell Centre in Singapore/Chinatown has great food if you can handle century eggs or raw fish in your porridge at 6 AM in the morning, while for more Western stuff I'm partial to Simply Bread and Epicurious in Robertson Quay. Can't really think of any non-hotel breakfast place with a great view though, unless you want to do the "breakfast with animals" thing at the Zoo... Jpatokal 05:26, 19 February 2009 (EST)

[edit] stay safe warning box

Why Balochistan is in the list which comprise more than half of Pakistani territory when there are just some incidents in just a particular region there like in the city of quetta, what is the purpose of writing corruption is common practice in the stay safe, why i cant argue that kashmir is a part of india, why it affects my personal safety, Is kashmir border region unsafe or the govt. dont allow tourist there, answer me that other wise i will undo it again.

[edit] andorra villas

has gone - thanks --inas 07:28, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Nusa Lembongan page and Mainski

Jan, I see in the past that you had a lot of trouble on Nusa_Lembongan with the business owners from Mainski. They are back again today messing up the article with entries in multiple sections amongst other things. Is there a reason their domain/IP was not nuked in the past? Talk:Nusa_Lembongan Tx. --Burmesedays 07:55, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

Thanks, I replied on the Talk page so Peter and Jani can follow.jan 15:01, 2 August 2009 (EDT)

Hi Jan, Please take another look at Nusa_Lembongan. I have completed all of the standard formatting etc and have alerted Peter to that. I think the page is now deserving of Guide status. --Burmesedays 04:17, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

Hi Guys,

I am Brian from Mainski. Firstly, Congratulations on doing a great job on the page. It is looking really good.

I apologise for the multiple entries. I thank Peter for emailing me and pointing out the error of my ways. I have now re-read the owners page on Spamming. I simply thought because Mainski offered both budget & mid-range accommodation it would be ok to place entries in both sections.

Mainski is very different to most places on Lembongan in that we offer Standard budget rooms for US$25, deluxe fan rooms for US$31, Deluxe Air-con rooms for US$37, Luxury suites for US$74, 3 Bedroom villas for US$140 and now a beachfront honeymoon suite for US$150. But if only one entry is the rule then I guess that mid range is the right place.

Also my entries for our bar & restaurant have been deleted but others like Batu Karang resort, Coconuts, Pondok Baruna have such multiple entries. Why are they not considered to be spamming?

Mainski's "Sunset Beat" restaurant and poolside bar are the biggest and most popular on Lembongan with 40-70 guests every night throughout high season. (Often more people than you would find at all other places put together.) The restaurant offers a fantastic variety; An international A-La-Carte menu along with a Traditional Balinese Buffet/Warung and an Aussie style BBQ that are both unique to Lembongan.

The poolside bar, also unlike any other on Lembongan features a games area with pool table & table tennis along with music DVDs projected onto the giant screen every night. The patrons love it!

I believe that these entries deserve thier places on the page in Drinks & Eats as they both offer something unique to the traveller.

I also believe that others are both deleting and manipulating the listings to thier own advantage. All listings under each catagory should simplt be placed alphabetically. EG: Warung Sunset should not be able to place their entry at the top.

I should also point out that the map used shows Pondok Baruna some kilometers away from where it really is.

I respect that Wiki is a directory & not an advertising billboard and have found my listings to be of great benefit to our business and Lembongan as a whole. I am happy to see the page improving and giving potential tourists a better insight into what Lembongan has to offer. I am also willing to help with any queries regarding content.

I would appreciate your comments.

Keep up the good work. Brian

Hi Brian. Most importantly, thanks for your response and understanding. Jan and Peter may have their own responses but I thank you for pointing out that some other establishments on the island have multiple entries in eat and sleep categories. I can see that this is indeed the case and will make the necessary edits. I should have spotted the Batu Karang/Muntigs conflict myself having been to both several times!. Wikitravel's guideline is that any business should only be listed in one category so I doubt that exceptions can be made despite your well reasoned argument. We should wait for an administrator's view on that though. And thank you for noticing and appreciating the improvement in the Nusa Lembongan article. I have put a fair amount of effort into this and it is nice that a business owner on the island has noticed this. On the map... yep, I know that already as Baruna/World Diving pointed out to me a while back. There are a couple of other minor errors which will be put right --Burmesedays 07:40, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for your comments. It does seem unfair that Batu Karang, Mainski & others can't have an additional entry in eats & drinks but if the administrator says that's the rule, then that is the rule.

Without trying to be picky, I should also point out that; Batu Karang have another listing under "Lulur Spa". Tanis have their ferry service under IN, Their dinner cruise under EATS & their resort under MID-RANGE. Pondok Baruna mention thrilling Diving & Dive pool under BUDGET and World diving mention Pondok Baruna under DO. Personally I believe some of these should be allowed but by the book they shouldn't. Where do you draw the line?

[edit] Lombok

I haven't taken a close look at it, but if those 84 changes caused more trouble than they were worth, you could revert to the version as of yesterday, and then selectively restore the good additions. Anyway, I protected the article for 40 minutes, in hopes that that will allow for some discussion to take place. --Peter ^Talk 12:30, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Peter, thank you for the block. User:Felix505 seems to think Wikitravel is Wikipedia and we failed to get his attention today. jan 14:10, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Yeah thanks Peter for the protect and thanks Jan for helping out in that battle yesterday. The Lombok article is actually pretty good already and it was fairly painful battling the repetitive edits yesterday. --Burmesedays 09:33, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

I will try and help out on Senggigi as well Jan. I am conincidentally working on Mount Rinjani myself right now. Some of the Senggigi edits are actually very good and I strongly suspect we have two users on the same IP (it is a non specific Telkom Speedy IP, could be an internet cafe). --Burmesedays 05:27, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

Thank you for the support Burmesedays! My main issue are the first two/three sections which are inconsistent and duplicate content. I saw that you work on Mt. Rinjani and this is why i wrote a meassage on your page.jan 05:02, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

I have done a massive cull of Senggigi. Some good stuff might have gone with the mass of non-standard and repetitive information and we can look at bringing some of it back when time permits. At the least the article is now back to making some sense. --Burmesedays 05:27, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Admin?

If I nominated you for administrator, would you accept? The magical "delete" button is easier to use than writing VFDs... Jpatokal 10:36, 8 October 2009 (EDT)

Jani, i would accept the nomination as administrator for the English version of Wikipedia with pleasure and would be glad to do the janitorial work if the WT community provides the trust in me. jan 04:07, 9 October 2009 (EDT)

[edit] picture of florence

would it look better right under the map...to fill up that blank space?Shep 10:26, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

Shep: The picture does not fit to Understand, Literature, Climate etc but the list of Cities lack one. Also the formatting came a bit weird, therefore i changed it to the current position. Most country articles do not have a picture so far in the top. Feel free to adapt the position but it looks a bit weird.jan 08:19, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Coimbatore

Done, for the last time! You'll be an administrator in 24 hours and can do it yourself. =P Jpatokal 09:22, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Admin

Welcome to the club! See Wikitravel:Administrator's handbook and start mopping.

Re: spambots, completely obvious ones can be blocked for 3 months, with IP and account creation allowed (so legit users at the same ISP are not affected). If in any doubt, raise it on Wikitravel:User ban nominations. Jpatokal 12:03, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

[edit] Just cruising recent changes

Hi jan, I have never been to Phillipines either, just noticed action on the recent changes page that looked suspicious and deleted a bit of obvious touting. Cheers, Peter (Southwood) ^Talk 12:26, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

hello Jan, why did you remove my listing with wikitravel? there are other vacation rental companies listed.

Hello, thanks for coming back to me - we are based in Champions Gate, Florida and manage properties and rent villas all over Kissimmee (at the Bellavida, Terra Verde and Encantada resorts), Davenport (Watersong and Aviana resorts) and South of Orlando (Emerald Island) - that's why I have listed the company on those three area listings. My website address is: www.amazingdisneyvillas.com. We are a very young company and I am doing all I can to market the company through as many channels as possible. What area's would you suggest I list the company in? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks for your help! Angie Cox

[edit] Removed link to hotel.info

Hi Jan, as you removed "my" link for hotel.info, you also have to remove the link for HRS... (also a online reservation agency)

So you mean, if I see a "link violation" I can remove it by myself? HannesK 08:45, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Yes. Every user can remove external links if they are not in accordance with Wikitravels guidelines or policies but it is frowned up to delete competitiors links and exchange it with yours (e.g. in Frankfurt you would delete the proper Lindner Main Plaza link and replace it with your hotel.info link). Please be fair and before you start to delete have a look on the links in my welcome message. jan 09:04, 2 November 2009 (EST)