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Here are archived discussions on my Talk Page.

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Welcome[edit]

Hello, GiulioC! Welcome to Wikitravel.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Wikitravel:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. IBAlex 15:35, 20 March 2013 (EDT)

Ohoy matey and welcome aboard! Good to have more capable hands on deck! --OVK 16:04, 23 March 2013 (EDT)

Hi GiulioC, thank you for the welcome! I am still getting to grips with Wiki markup, so please let me know if this comment should be edited differently! --BritishZen 14:21, 2 May 2104 (GMT)

Yellow pages[edit]

Hi GiulioC,

Thanks for writing for wikitravel. I appreciate that. I add an entry about an hotel which in my view (among other travelers) is a good choice in this city. Removing it is not democratic and seems to me that because one is already in there the other doesn't deserve a place. On which ground do we do that. First comes first rules? That's not very wiki like. Yes it's not a yellow page but surely this is not the criteria. The criteria should be:

1 information should be accurate. 2 information should be objective. 3 information should be as complete as possible.

'Yellow pages' argument fails to comply with 1 or 2, thus is not a valid criteria. Criteria 3 is perpendicular on the 'yellow pages' argument.

Could you please elaborate on your decision. Meanwhile I re added my entry.

With kind regards,

Robert Nagtegaal. —The preceding comment was added by Masikh (talkcontribs)

Hello Robert, inserting a listing in an article where there are already dozens similar doesn't benefit the traveller nor the article itself, there is no need to have 30 restaurants/bars/hotels listed. And as I already stated in the summary we don't want WT to become the Yellow Pages. That's why sometimes we delete listings. If you want you can start a discussion on the pub about this topic, express your ideas and maybe find a way to improve Wikitravel. Do not hesitate to contact me again. GiulioC (talk) 12:57, 25 May 2014 (EDT)
Hi GiulioC,
My hotel listing was also removed on the same basis. Your reasoning to not make a Yellow page yet you still advertise over 15 hotels in each category doesn't justify it. You cannot be biased here, and what if the users are not happy with the selection of hotels there, they have the right to see the entire selection which is available in the relevant category. I added the following
(cur | prev) 12:38, 11 August 2014‎ GiulioC (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (103,917 bytes) (-615)‎ . . (removed external links and a hotel listing: there are already many hotels listed in the article, we don't want WT to become the Yellow Pages)
Hello,
I'm IBcaldera an admin on this site, too. First of all, I do want to apologize for the confusion. Giulio is correct, we try to avoid overloading sections with listings. This can be a particular problem when it come to hotels and more specifically chain hotels. Unfortunately, we aren't an avenue for businesses we are an avenue for the cities. Sites like tripadvisor and yelp are great for promoting specific businesses and the great experiences they offer. A while back we chose to go with oldest listing first - if that listing were to close or be found of tricking/harming our travelers it would be removed. As it stands - if you see your listing removed with the reason of "Yellow Pages" just remember we can always discuss a general solution on Wikitravel:Travellers' pub and that we're doing our best to uphold a delicate balance on travel guides. I encourage your feedback! Best, IBcaldera (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2014 (EDT)

Fusion Freediving[edit]

Hi I represent Fusion Freediving from Bali Indonesia. You recently removed a number of our posts to various pages associated with your operation. I have read the "Dont tout" guide and have adjusted the language of our posts to suit but one thing that I cannot seem to do is post multiple entries. The thing is we as a company have a facility in three locations here in Bali. I wish to have presence at these three wikitravel locations. What can I do to make this happen?

b —The preceding comment was added by Bobthefreediver (talkcontribs)

Hello Bob! Thanks for your message. there are indeed a few basic rules that apply to Listings. Let's assume you run a surfing school in Kuta, for instance, you are allowed to add a listing on the page dedicated to Kuta, and not on Bali's page, because of course countries, regions and big cities pages would become soon unreadable! Please also note that if your school on Kuta is also a restaurant, it doesn't allow you to add 2 different listings on the same page. Just pick one section and add a line about the other activity. Last thing, there is a rule that may sound a bit harsh, but it is in the best traveller's interest: if Kuta's page is saturated with surf schools, we won't accept no extra listings until somebody well informed removes, for example, outdated info and facilities that have shut down to make some room.

You may also want to check Wikitravel:Guide for business owners. If anything remains unclear, feel free to ask for help, we are at your disposal.

Cheers! PierrB (talk) 02:18, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

Hi Bob, Pierre well explained the whole thing. I'd like also to point out that your Listings were incomplete: do not write only the name of the business and the url. Address, phone number and other contact details are useful. GiulioC (talk) 13:07, 25 May 2014 (EDT)

SeekPanda[edit]

Hi GiulioC, thanks for pointing out the various policies governing WikiTravel. I'm a big fan of the website, and wanted to clarify appropriate use of multiple listings. I acknowledge that the same service listed on multiple pages is touting. But I run a business which has distinctly separate teams operating in multiple cities in China. Each team has city-specific expertise (for example, our Shanghai team is aware of Shanghai's local industries which our Beijing team does not have expertise in). What would you then recommend as the best way to ensure visitors to each of these cities are aware of this interpretation service? Thanks! Matt 09:12, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

Hi Matt, I just answered on your talkpage. Regards, GiulioC (talk) 03:26, 1 July 2014 (EDT)

In reply to "New page" message[edit]

Thank you GiulioC. Grazie :) it is my pleasure to introduce more places in Indonesia, especially the province of East Java where i live. --Siung99 (talk) 09:02, 21 July 2014 (EDT)

You're doing very well! Thank you! GiulioC (talk) 09:25, 21 July 2014 (EDT)

Deleted edit[edit]

Hi, Giulio...

Gosh, I'm sorry. That was me in the previous post. I forgot to log in. I guess Im not yet very familiar with this Wiki.

Anyway, if you will allow me to repeat: I created a specific section because an e-book (which I mentioned) did not seem to fit with the "Get to", "See", "Do", "Get Around", "Eat" or "Get out" sections.

Under what section do you think I should post under?

I would appreciate your suggestion. This is the very first time I have ever posted on any Wiki. :)

Yours truly, Jose Maria N. Ramos April_thunder

—The preceding comment was added by April thunder (talkcontribs)

Hello there! Thanks for writing and don't worry about the mistakes, it takes a while to understand how a wiki works. As for your edit, the link is for an ebook to purchase online and this is considered a "secondary source of information", so this can't be considered as a good listing. Please take a look at our External links page. Thanks, GiulioC (talk) 10:00, 21 July 2014 (EDT)

How to separate two tables?[edit]

Hi Gulio,

I was unable to find any info on how to separate two tables which are located underneath each other on a page. What I ended up doing was to improvise by creating a single table without a border between the two as a means of inserting a space between them. Without that, both tables merge which looks untidy. Here's the link: http://wikitravel.org/en/Thailand#Get_in

Maybe it's acceptable in its present form, but if not, could you please explain what I should be doing?

Thanks in advance.

Xircal

Hello Xircal! Take a look at this page. Regards, GiulioC (talk) 05:15, 29 July 2014 (EDT)

Hi Gulio, I've already looked at that and I regret to say it didn't help. But the method I used does the job so as long as there's no objections, I'll leave it place.

Reply to edit to talk page[edit]

Thanks, I do what I can to a article. Seqqis (talk) 14:11, 31 July 2014 (EDT)

Dan Chang page[edit]

Hi GiulioC,

Sorry about all the incorrect changes to the Dan Chang page. I set a homework project for my English students to improve/update it and maybe didn't fully understand about how to upload. That's also why some of the writing isn't perfect.

Regarding the photos of the shopfronts, is it OK to have thumbnails to show what they look like? And are the photos of the market OK, or do I need to make them thumbnails?

Sorry for all this hassle. I thought it would be something a bit more fun for them than normal homework without fully realising the additional work for admins etc.

Banhan3 (talk) 01:05, 3 August 2014 (EDT)

Hello Banhan! It takes some time to fully understand how Wikitravel works, don't worry. We're here to help and encourage our users, and we're looking forward to see more contributions from you and your students. As for the pictures maybe this page can help you. As a general rule, there's no need to add a picture for every single business. You can use thumbnails, and I also suggest you this page for more info. If you need help just ask! Warm regards, GiulioC (talk) 08:43, 3 August 2014 (EDT)

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