User talk:Biggie54

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Hello Biggie54! Welcome to Wikitravel.

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Yes, welcome! Also, you can sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) – cacahuate talk 01:31, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Hotel spamming[edit]

Hi, I see you are quite the prolific hotel spammer! I've just finished going through your contributions history, and have removed a good deal of the hotels you added, and reformatted and detouted the rest. You hit so many pages yesterday that the costs in time and effort of cleaning them up outweighed the benefits in keeping any useful info, so I just reverted them en masse.

Please take a good hard look at Wikitravel:Welcome, business owners and Wikitravel:Don't tout.

Wikitravel is not meant to be a yellow pages, nor an advertising brochure, so please do not add listings for your business that have flowery, promotional language or that lack any useful information, in particular price ranges for rooms. Also do not list your listing more than once, and do not list it in a city other than the one it actually is in.

Edits that do not follow the guidelines in the linked policy articles and in this message will be reverted. --Peter Talk 16:34, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure this is mentioned in Wikitravel:Don't tout, but please avoid describing your hotels as being "near area attractions." If it's across the street, or on the same block, note that. Otherwise just describe what the hotel is. --Peter Talk 16:18, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

All categories spamming[edit]

OK, now I see you are spamming touting listings for all sorts of sections of our articles, restaurants, shops, etc. What sort of company do you work for, anyway, that would own so many establishments? In any rate, stop touting—knock it off. I've been trying to clean your contributions, but the work is getting too onerous, and I'm starting to think it might be net advantageous to just revert everything you add, the good with the bad. --Peter Talk 04:04, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

Thank you very much for your message—I was rather dreading the thought of going through your numerous contributions to clean them up. Especially since there is a lot of good legitimate content there. I'll keep an eye on your fixes and try to give you any necessary guidance. On an unrelated note, you can auto-sign your name when commenting by typing four tildes (~~~~). --Peter Talk 16:40, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

Hi Peter, How are you? I have a question... I have a hotel that I would like to add in Dallas, however I can't figure out which District to add it to. Will you please let me know which District my hotel with the address: 4150 Independence Drive , Dallas, TX, US, 75237 belongs to? Thank you... Biggie54 19:28, 9 October 2009 (EDT)

I think this is what you're looking for Dallas/South_Dallas, otherwise try User talk:Texugo, he came up with the districts. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 19:38, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
Heya, you are forgetting price ranges in your listings, I know other corporate users have gotten away with this previously, but we are trying to take a more hard line approach to make sure the listings you guys add are useful. Otherwise it looks good! --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 17:48, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Hi Stefan, I apologize for not putting the prices in the listings. However, the prices fluctuate heavily depending on seasonality. Also, hotels may run promotional prices for upcoming events in their area. Because of the rate that the prices would change, we figure it might be easier to omit them. Thank you and let me know if you see anything else that could be improved in our listings. Biggie54 18:02, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Nope, price info should always go in listings. When I go through a crowded article and trim sleep listings, I usually delete all those without price info without even looking at them—it's the most basic, useful detail we can provide about a hotel, especially chain hotels. We all know that rates vary, which is why we use price ranges (for a standard double room). $100-250 is a fine price range, and will contrast just fine with $130-300. --Peter Talk 19:06, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

Touting[edit]

Your edits to Rochester (New York) veer dangerously close to violating our touting policy, especially when you describe hotels miles from a location as being "near" that location (See this edit; 2729 Monroe Ave is at least five miles from the University of Rochester). This one is a problem, too, because every single hotel listed in the article is "minutes from" the attractions you mention. Writing such things may help your favorite hotel, but it doesn't help the traveler one bit. LtPowers 15:02, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Thanks LtPowers for responding to my recent changes and providing the feedback. It was not my intentions to tout. In the future, I will take your recommendations into much consideration before editing listings. I am not trying to show favoritism to our properties; my intentions were to list additional lodging options for traveling guests to Rochester. If you notice that I am doing anything wrong again, please let me know immediately. Thank you
Please note the changes I made here to some of your entries (and others that existed before) and try to follow similar formatting and information guidelines. Please only describe the location of a hotel if the location is particularly notable (literally next door to an attraction, inside an attraction, etc.) or in the context of providing directions ("I-81 to exit 26"). "Less than five miles from the airport" is a useless phrase that serves only to increase the hotel's search ranking. Please also abbreviate street names, per our guidelines. Thanks. LtPowers 21:17, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
I noticed your changes - I will keep them in mind with my future work on www.wikitravel.org Thank you, again

Please note that per our guidelines for hotel marketers, all listings should have a non-promotional description. While you've done a good job with proper formatting for addresses and price ranges, an edit such as this one is missing a description that contains any information about amenities, hotel staff, ambiance, etc that would help a traveler differentiate between hotels. -- Ryan • (talk) • 17:54, 26 July 2010 (EDT)

And bizarrely, this edit has descriptions but improperly formatted addresses and no price ranges?!? -- Ryan • (talk) • 18:18, 26 July 2010 (EDT)
Ryan, I looked at the addresses for the Tallahasse listing and realized they were, indeed, improper. I deleted the city, state, and zip-codes. I will begin adding description to the Pensacola listings now. Likewise, I will keep everything you've said in mind with my future work on the site. Thank you.