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I speak Danish and Swedish, I can do a Norwegian accent, I'm quite fluent in English and have some command of Japanese, and would in general claim to have some flair for languages - yet despite 5 years of German in school, I still struggle when someone talks to me in German at normal speed (mostly because I never use it). I also work at an alarm central in the travel insurance industry, with around 50/50 mix of Swedes and Danes, and nearly without fail, German speakers are required to switch to English, or wait till a German speaking operator is available, for them to be understood, and they most certainly don't understand us. Furthermore I have friends from Flensburg, and they all have to speak Danish, in order to be understood, since none of the Danes in the circle understands German well enough to have a halfway descent conversation.
when I think back to the German lessons in school and high-school, and how everyone struggled, the concept of the Swedes being able to understand German as a standard, frankly seems rather preposterous, especially since Danish is much closer to German than Swedish is. --Stefan (sertmann) talk 17:21, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
Hi Andreas, as you have seen Killerduh's debate with me, i strongly urge you not to start the same edit warring like him. German ist understood by everyone i encountered in Vienna and most speak the standard German with Vienniese in their daily life. I'm quite often in Austria (Vienna and Upper Austria) and have quite a lot of Austrian friends. Yes, Austrians use different words and have a distinct accent but even northern Germans understand the general context. If you want to start this discussion (several times discussed here!) then on the talk pages.
May i ask you two points in the technical way:
Thank you, jan 07:18, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
Hi Andreas, as other users and i already explained to you, Wikitravel is not Wikipedia and Austro-Bavarian is rather academic even on Wikitravel. Please refrain from changing German to Austro Bavarian. The national language of Austria is German and everyone understands and writes papers in it. Austria has a rich culture that is different to Germany but they share the same language (with the German speaking Switzerland),too. This discussion is of no use for traveller who are aware that Austria and German-speaking Switzerland is different to Germany. Here the Wikitravel:The_traveller_comes_first so don't blow differences out of proportion. jan 10:26, 16 August 2010 (EDT)