Talk:West Midlands (region)
The West Midlands does not have regions. It is a region. -- Picapica 19:50, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)
England is divided into regions (see: Regions of England). The West Midlands is one of these (see: West Midlands (region)). So, whatever happens in geometry, it's a bit confusing to start talking in a travel guide about a region's regions.
Herefordshire, Shropshire, etc. are not regions. They are counties. Together they make up the region. That is why I wrote that the West Midlands does not have a region; it is a region.
-- Picapica 11:04, 24 Jun 2005 (EDT)
Problem with West Midlands, advice appreciated
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I'm currently working on a map of the West Midlands (part of what will hopefully become a full UK map), and have run into a significant problem, namely that there's two West Midlandses. The West Midlands listed on here is the common, everyday sense of the term, ie the region made up of the five counties of Herefordshire, Worcestershire, Warwickshire, Staffordshire and Shropshire. The problem comes with the fact that West Midlands also refers to the administrative area made up of Coventry, Birmingham and Wolverhampton and the surrounding towns. This page illustrates the problem quite nicely, listing the local councils in the West Midlands area, with the West Midlands being one of the listed sub-regions, and there's also a map here. So we've got a West Midlands in the West Midlands. Naturally this presents problems both on the technical side (IsIn) and the confusion side. So I'm not sure what to do about it.
Do I go ahead and move the current West Midlands to something like West Midlands region and use to old West Midlands for the sub-area? Another option is to ignore it and use the old pre-1974 map (here's a map of the old boundaries, compare with , which would solve the problem but would be out of keeping with other urban regions (like Merseyside ). Or I could rename the smaller West Midlands area, but all I can think of is the horribly unweildly "Birmingham, Black Country and Coventry". Or just move Coventry to Warwickshire and make a "Birmingham and Black Country" region. The other solution is to move all of the larger regional stuff to Midlands, but I'd really rather not do that as the West and East Midlands are really quite distinct areas. Basically I can see a lot of options but none of them seem completely satisfactory, so I figured I'd ask for advice here in the hope that someone else has faced similar problems and can offer advice. --Paul. 10:58, 12 October 2006 (EDT)