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For future reference the Wikitravel:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Turkmenistan/CIA World Factbook 2002 import. -- Huttite 06:36, 28 Mar 2005 (EST)


Disclaimer box, edit war?[edit]

Text here has been deleted more than once, most recently by an anonymous user, and restored a couple of times by admins. I've just restored it again, then rewritten it in a form I hope is less politically charged. Other opinions, comments, rewrites? Why is it a disclaimer, rather than warning, box? Pashley 19:59, 10 March 2007 (EST)

Turkmenistan-Azerbaijan Travel Links[edit]

I cannot find information on the boat link from Turkmenbashi to Baku? This is quite important, as many backpackers are interested in taking this route to Central Asia. Feel free to send me the info and I can post it up. Thanks!! Cupcakecommander 08:38, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

Check out caravanistan they have good information about the ferry. I used the ferry this year, it is a lot more reliable and pleasant than this article implies.

Turkmen dictionary[edit]

Someone added the following to the Talk section. I removed it because it is against our external link policy, but it might be useful to someone to start up a Turkmen phrasebook, so I'm putting it below. Texugo 00:00, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

  • Free printable Turkmen-English English-Turkmen Dictionary with grammar and pronunciation published by Peace Corps [1].

Israeli stamp[edit]

I have a an urgent question that I think I know the answer but I want to be sure does having an israeli stamp in your passport cause problems when applying for a visa

I sincerely doubt it will have any bearing—Turkmenistan is the most solidly neutral nation on the planet. Nonetheless, getting that visa is very difficult (unless my knowledge is outdated) regardless of where you have or have not been. --Peter Talk 20:31, 3 September 2009 (EDT)

Yeah it really is neutral I mean they have a 12 million dollar arh dedicated to it. Thanks and yes getting a visa especially as an indepedent traveler is near impossible luckily I am going with my dad

Let me revise that for an indepedent traveler it is near impossible for most people it is just difficult not nearly impossbile just a big typo for whoever is reading

Regions[edit]

Scheme b
Provinces

This is an odd case, given how large the country is but how very small it's population is—80% is the infamously inhospitable, completely empty Karakum Desert. While the Karakum isn't going to have a lot by way of cities & ODs (pretty much just Darvaza, I think), and therefore won't have sub-articles, it could still make a good travel article, and visitors always make an excursion there just to see it. The Karakum technically encompasses more than what I've drawn, but I've tried to keep anything that is in any way distinct from the desert in a separate article.

Scheme a:

Scheme b:

  • Combine East & Central Turkmenistan into a big South Turkmenistan region, which would contain the bulk of the nation's cities & attractions (of which, in all fairness, there are not many).
  • Combine the isolated Turkmenabad area with North Turkmenistan into an Amu-Darya region (they're both on the river at the Uzbek border), which would be interesting, and would avoid the problem of having a region split by desert.

I'm favoring scheme B, and have drawn it up in the map to the right. I would appreciate any thoughts on how well these ideas would fit with our goals. --Peter Talk 12:19, 16 January 2010 (EST)

I like scheme B, but I think dividing the country by provinces (and there's only 5, merging Ashgabat capital district into Ahal) may be preferable. First of all, by having the desert as a single region, there's very little to fill a Karakum Desert page with (as you said) and that will hinder the Turkmenistan page from increasing in status. From a traveller's point of view, there is little which unifies the desert west-east into a distinct travel destination...visitors will use the roads and will make a trip to Darvaza, per se, from Ashgabat or between Ashgabat and Dashoguz while a visitor may visit the eastern Karakum from Mary or Turkmenabad. And I've never seen a district as slim your proposed Amu-Darya, except Transnistria (for understandable reasons). Perhaps the northern two provinces could be merged, thus: Caspian Basin, Central Turkmenistan, Southeastern Turkmenistan, & Northern Turkmenistan (Amu-Darya). AHeneen 21:59, 16 January 2010 (EST)
Actually, the Karakum region was the only one that I felt pretty sure made sense! I think there's actually plenty to write about, like interacting with the Turkmen in the very small settlements, Darvaza, tour companies that will take you on excursions (I doubt the government will let you wander around there)—there just won't be any subregions, cities, or other destinations to list. A pure bottom level region is fine when it is coherent (and is actually a lot easier to get to usable status, and thus to allow the eventual promotion of Turkmenistan to guide status. I'm amenable to following the province lines more closely, but I'm not sure they are based much on anything other than drawing lines in the sand though... And are you suggesting we do away with the Amu-Darya Region, then split what I have as the South Region into a Ashgabad area & Southeastern Turkmenistan (and add Kerki & Turkmenabad to that region)? That could possibly work, although the North Turkmenistan region article would be really spare. I remain pretty uncertain about all these questions. Would be nice to hear some other opinions... ;) --Peter Talk 15:52, 19 January 2010 (EST)
I also think the desert doesn't make for a logical travel region as there are no ways of transport to visit that region. In many regions, provinces [[2]] are not the way to go, but I think that in the case of Turkmenistan they are ideal. There are five of them, which is fine I think, and they already correspond to the differences you have explained (except that the desert would be spread over these provinces and the north would be spread into 2 provinces). --globe-trotter 10:33, 6 March 2010 (EST)
Well, I've come to doubt that this discussion has any legs, so I've acceded to the majority opinion and implemented the new hierarchy based on the provinces, and the new map to the right. --Peter Talk 13:30, 21 April 2010 (EDT)
Looks great! --globe-trotter 14:16, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

Republic?[edit]

What is the usefulness for travellers in calling a dictatorship a "republic"? On the other hand, is it time to revisit whether the country is still under "Stalinist" rule like North Korea? "Left-wing" is not likely to be a useful designation for travellers, whereupon, perhaps the subsection in question should be excised. Ikan Kekek 20:37, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

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