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Non-sequitur, possibly copyvio[edit]

So, I just replaced a non-sequitur version of this article, which consisted of an article about Tanzania ("Zanzibar"?) receiving an award from a travel magazine.

I'm pretty sure that's not what we want for the Tanzania travel guide, and I've got a hunch that it was copied from the Guardian newspaper.

Anyways, I don't think it belonged, so I reverted to the previous version. --Evan 02:37, 11 Aug 2004 (EDT)

Tanzanian capital[edit]

Isn't the capital Dadoma? The gov is there. Perhaps someone had some outdated information?

You're obviously knowledge about Tanzania, but, Dadoma isn't the capital. You're right that the legislative branch has moved there. A quote from the CIA 2006 World Factbook: Dar es Salaam; note - legislative offices have been transferred to Dodoma, which is planned as the new national capital; the National Assembly now meets there on regular basis. Dadoma will eventually become the capital, but it's not official. I will make a change on the article reflecting this. - Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 01:31, 15 June 2006 (EDT)

Actually, since 1973 Dodoma, not Dadoma, has been the official capital of Tanzania. Although the government had planned on transferring all government offices to Dodoma by the mid-1980, that fell through for a number of practical reasons, but the title of Capital remained. This was basically a failed experiment in the hopes of spreading economic growth and development beyond Dar es Salaam. Dar es Salaam remains the largest city and the location where most if not all government offices are located and that will not change for the foreseeable future. - Dagobert29 21:37, 21 February 2007, Dar es Salaam, Tanzania (EAT)

First person comments[edit]

I removed the following from the guide as it doesn't fit our Wikitravel:Manual of style (see Wikitravel:First person pronouns). You're more than welcome to contribute your stories and comments on [Wikitravel Extra] or to plunge forward and edit the guide to reflect your experiences. Let me know if you have any questions! Thanks. Maj 12:17, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

To add to this (from different contributor than the rest of this article): My experience with Scandanavia has been horrendous. I really do not know why everyone tells me that they are the best. With bugs in the broken seats and poorly maintained vehicles in general, each of the 6 rides I took with them was uncomfortable. Dar Express was ill advised to me at first, but when I took their bus, I was much more impressed with their quality of service and product. Accept for the movies that many of the companies like to play at high volume of screaming Nigerian soap operas or old Jean Claude Van Dam movies that seem ubiquitous, just about anything was better than Scandanavia.

Theft[edit]

Tanzania is not inherently can dangerous. Pickpockets and snatch and grabbers don't make a city dangerous, by that qualification Paris, London, New York, L.A. and pretty much any large city would require such a qualification. There are areas of the city that should be avoided or only visited during the day but then most large cities suffer from this. I've lived in this city long enough to know. I travel at night without hesitation and have never been the victim of any crimes and most of my friends and colleagues have had the same experience.

Regions[edit]

I overhauled the regions and made that map without actually knowing much about travel in the country. If there's anything wrong, or something that needs fixing on the map, please respond here, and I'll try to get to it. --Peter Talk 00:41, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

Most of the Whole stay safe section[edit]

What the fuck are you talking about "the police have guns and batons and have been known to kill people" who ever wrote that has never been to the United Republic of Tanzania and should be banned from this and every other website for ignorance. The person who wrote this is some stupid american who assumes that every country besides America is bad and poor a little word of advice it is America that is Dangerous, Corrupt, Poor and an abomination of god.

Erm, from reading the paragraph it found it pretty evident that whoever wrote this, has been to Tanzania, probably numerous times. And while I agree it can be boiled down a bit - I don't think it calls for outright deletion. --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 18:50, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
I lived in Tanzania for 3 years. The sentence about police killing people seems over the top - there are corrupt police, and I have even heard stories about them stealing, but never killing. Overall, I agree with Sertmann, the section is useful, though it could be cleaned up. I am willing to give it a try if there's no dissent. - Alingelb 07:11, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
None from me, please go ahead and give it your best shot :) --Stefan (sertmann) Talk 07:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
Done. Alingelb 17:54, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

Who ever wrote in the "corruption" section on if the Police and military know how to handle ak 47s why don't you read about Tanzania's invasion of Uganda or invasion of Anjoun then maybe you will get the motherfucking god damn picture of how wel trained the Tanzanian military is. If you don't think any military knows how to handle guns then lets just say you have an i.q. of 30 and are a stupid fat motherfucker who needs to be beaten by the Tanzanian police (let me stress they don't do that) and then be thrown into the serengeti so that you can be eaten by lions your ignorance is an insult to all of africa and we in africa do not want your presence. I have never gotten this angry before at ignorance and i have been studying Africa and all other countries (not israel or america) for 15 fucking years and i can tell you with certainty that tanzanians and africans in general know how to fucking handle a fucking gun better. sorry about getting so angry but i can not stand such blatent ignorance against such a great continent

Apology accepted. We all have our moments. --Inas 21:24, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

Although I agree that the comment on corruption was completely wrong and insulting, your language and tone are uncalled for and put you in the same category as the person who made original post. This is unacceptable. The section is called "Discussion", not "Rant and Swear". I don't see how you feel you deserve an apology when the comment was not directed at you, whether or not you've served in the military or even if you are Tanzanian. You say we all have our moments which means you were aware of how inappropriate your posting was but still chose to include it.

I also lived in Tanzania for many years. Although I don't have an opinion on the skills of of the military or the police, their corruption is unquestionable. I have experienced it first hand so many times it no longer counts as fluke. Even Tanzanians rate their law enforcement as some of the most corrupt in the region with a staggering +62% judging them as the most corrupt group in the country. This creates frustration in many people who chose to extrapolate. This still does not exonerate you from acting like a civilized person and using proper discourse top express anger.

This is exactly what I have done with my posting. No insults, personalizing or swearing required.

No apology given. --Dagobert29 17:17, 18 December 2009


Choice of vehicle[edit]

The author claims Vehicles with always-on 4x4 are not the best choice for off-road driving. because these are made for driving on snow. The author obviously does not realize that every Land Rover Defender oder Range Rover has always-on 4x4. What would be a proper 4-wheel drive in the eyes of this author? The content of this paragraph is partly misleading and shows the author has no experience with 4x4 vehicles.

Gallivant 15:56, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

Is there anyone here interested in Making a trip to Tanzania?[edit]

Hello everyone; I will like to know if there're any here who is interested in making a trip to Tanzania, home to Africa's highest mountain (Mt Kilimanjaro). Tanzania is one of the most beautiful countries in Africa and while in Tanzania, you would get the opportunity to either climb Africa's Highest mountain (Mt Kilimanjaro, or Africa's 5th Highest mountain ( Mt Meru) or explore the endless planes of Serengeti national park or Ngorongoro crater which stages incredible spectacle of animal behavior. There's so much to see in Tanzania. If there is, anyone interested in visiting, please kindly let me know,, I have got an offer for you. Thanks, Snoovy

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