Talk:Sudan

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Travel by truck A lot of travel in Sudan is done by truck. If you go to a truck park, normally near the market, you should be able to find a truck driver to take you where ever you want, conflict zones aside. You travel on top of the load with a large number of others. If you pick a truck carrying bags of something soft like peanuts it can be quite comfortable. Beer trucks are not. If the trip takes days then comfort can be vital, especially if the truck goes all night. It helps to sit along the back, as the driver will not stop just because you want the toilet. The cost has to be negotiated so ask hotel staff first and try not to pay more than twice the local rate. Sometimes the inside seat is available. Food can be bought from the driver, though they normally stop at roadside stalls every 5/6 hours. Departure time are normally at the start or end of the day, though time is very flexible. It helps to make arrangements the day before. It is best to travel with a few others. Women should never ever travel alone.

Travel to CAR If the situation in Darfur calms down, trucks will resume from the border to the CAE capital. The trip is an exceptional adventure as it passes through jungle and backwoods Africa. However the road is dirt the first third and turns to a mud bog during the wet season. Consequently a two/three day trip can turn to a two/ three week trip as you winch from bog to bog. Take extra food etc. Always book through to the capital or you may be stranded in the middle of nowhere.

For future reference the Wikitravel:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Sudan/CIA World Factbook 2002 import. -- Huttite 17:23, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

• I removed the part in "Get in" saying that you should not bring up political/military topics on border posts. I think this is common knowlegde if you travel countrys that your cov considered a country of evil - Peter 02:46 CET, 21 June 2006 (EST)

[edit] Arabization

Author wrote: "Note: program of "Arabization" in process" I have a question - what the hell is "Arabization?" Who administers this "program?" The janjaweed, which murders hundreds of thousands black Africans or non-Arabs? Why doesn't WikiTravel call this "program" what it really is - a genocide of non-Arabs? I'm going to change this. WikiTravel cannot have any credibility if one shred of false information is given. Sapphire 04:19, 1 April 2006 (EST)

This is a travel guide, not the International Court of Justice. Neither term belongs here. Jpatokal 07:21, 1 April 2006 (EST)

Evan and Maj obviously have strong enough faith in you so I'm not going to argue about this, but I wish to make one point clear. I was not talking about the Sudanese government and the two major rebel groups, the Justice and Equality Movement and the Sudan Liberation Movement. I was talking about civilians. The problem I have is we are not being truthful. I could care less about the "parties" what I care about is trying to convey the truth about a situation which is deadly enough for civilians that don't pick up arms. What is to stop the Janjaweed, known to be sponsored by the Sudanese government because the VP spilled the beans on that, from prevent foreigners who have seen too much from killing the foreigners there. Additionally, a major part of traveling is traveling with a conscience - I.e. Eco-tourism. WikiTravel users need to be aware of the fact that hundreds of thousands of civilians have died. Would a traveler go to Sudan and spend money, some of which will be taxed and go to the government, which could help finance this war if he/she/they knew the truth that it's not just a rebel group fighting for the independence of the Darfur region, but instead a genocide. I sure wouldn't. A quick survey of 25 people only one person would tell you that they know the situation in Sudan is genocide, not a armed conflict, which, unfortunately the warning does not convey the full severity of.

[edit] sudan is a great country

Do not lisen to the bbc go and see it for yourself and speak to some sudaness people they will tell you what is happen for really!

Yeah, the article contains bullshit. Please Wikitravel:Plunge forward and fix it. -- Colin 22:33, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

 Sudan is a amazing contry, it has problems but what contry dosnt. It is slowly improving though.

[edit] Work times

I rolled back the addition of a work schedule for Sudan. Although it was interesting, it didn't seem to be useful for travellers looking for work in the country. I think the info could be summarized in a single sentence. --Evan 11:33, 22 December 2006 (EST)