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Terence, I was actually thinking about exactly the same thing when I saw your message, because I was wondering where to slot in the National Museum (which falls right on the boundary). The problem is deciding where to draw the line -- I don't want to have too many sections either. Just listing out the 'subsections' now covered, we have:

  • Boat Quay
  • Clarke Quay
  • Robertson Quay
  • Mohamed Sultan
  • Raffles Place (incl. Merlion, Fullerton)
  • City Hall/Bras Basah
  • Marina Centre (Suntec, Esplanade, the hotels)

And then we need to have a clear dividing line between this area and Orchard (I've been using Dhoby Ghaut stn). Jpatokal 00:08, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

Thinking out loud, Clarke, Robertson and Mohamed Sultan obviously form one group, and City Hall/Bras Basah/Marina Centre another. The problem is splitting up Boat Quay and Raffles Place between these two. Jpatokal 00:14, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
Boat Quay, Raffles Place, Shenton Way and Telok Ayer form one group. There seems to be no mention about Lau Pa Sat anyway. --Terence Ong 05:52, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
Btw, Telok Ayer Street, Amoy Street, Club Street etc. belong to Chinatown, according to the road signs and there are Chinatown boards in the Telok Ayer Street area. Shenton Way, Tanjong Pagar (the section bordered by Maxwell Road, Kandallayur Street, Telok Ayer Street at the junction of Amoy Street Food Centre, Cecil Street and Stanley Street) belong to Telok Ayer and not Tanjong Pagar, The nothern part of Telok Ayer Street (north of Amoy Street Food Centre), Amoy Street and a tiny portion of Stanley Street belongs to Chinatown and not Tanjong Pagar) this is in your map FYI, Marina Bay, Shenton Way, Raffles Place and Boat Quay should form one page instead of the above suggestion. I hope we can do the change asap. --Terence Ong 06:03, 12 October 2006 (EDT)
Proposed split

Districts in Wikitravel are set for travellers' benefit, not according to bureaucratic dictat, and nobody goes to Boat Quay thinking they're going to Chinatown. I've been thinking about rolling together the Chinatown and Tanjong Pagar maps, they're a little too small and the distinction is kind of useless...

So is your proposal the following?

  1. Marina Bay, Shenton Way, Raffles Place and Boat Quay ("Downtown"?)
  2. Clarke Quay, Robertson Quay, Mohamed Sultan ("Riverside"?)
  3. City Hall, Bras Basah (err... "City Hall"?)

Is Nicoll Highway the dividing line between Marina Bay and City Hall/Bras Basah? And what do you suggest we call these districts? Jpatokal 07:38, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

I've attached a crude map shown the districts above, please comment. The original can be found here. Jpatokal 07:59, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

I see, but the Chinatown border is too huge. Anything west of Chin Swee Road should be in Riverside and anything east of Cecil Street should be in Downtown. In 2001, the Tanjong Pagar area had Chinatown road signs, but not anymore, thus forming another area (Tanjong Pagar Conservation Area), but well for convenience sake, merge with Chinatown. Tanjong Pagar's too small a place anyway. --Terence Ong 09:13, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

For the area bordered by Bras Basah Road, Nicoll Highway North Bridge Road, Connaught Drive and Parliament Place, can we move it to Downtown. As for the remaining area of "City Hall", should we call it Bras Basah? Bugis can be merged with Bras Basah and Kampong Glam forming another district. You are on IRC but idling, can you please come on IRC. --Terence Ong 09:21, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

I've uploaded a new version according to your suggestions, take a look. (You'll probably have to shift-reload to see the changes.) I don't think the name "Bras Basah" is very intuitive for describing Bugis and Kampong Glam though...? Jpatokal 01:34, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
How about the name, "Museum" or "Rochor"? Or should we merge Kampong Glam and Bugis to be known as "Kampong Glam". The name "City Hall" doesn't sound really appopriate as its already not in the City Hall zone of Downtown Core. --Terence Ong 06:32, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
"Museum" is too vague and "Rochor" makes me think of Rochor Canal Rd, which is pretty far away from eg. Fort Canning. Kampong Glam and Bugis are already merged.
So far, the best option I can see is calling the current red box "Bras Basah", and keeping Bugis/Kampong Glam in their own article. Jpatokal 10:15, 18 October 2006 (EDT)
Ok, Bras Basah then. That's settled finally. ;) Though the National Library area and Purvis Street should be in Bugis, what do you think?
If you don't mind, would you like to discuss other issues over IRC or IM? --Terence Ong 01:33, 19 October 2006 (EDT)
How about you draw the district split the way you think it should be? Jpatokal 00:35, 16 November 2006 (EST)
So is it all right to split now? Terence Ong 05:37, 27 December 2006 (EST)