This article needs a serious facelift. It is pretty nasty-sounding. --Evan 13:13, 12 Nov 2004 (EST)
Agreed. The recent section on police brutality goes way over the Wikitravel:Neutral point of view line. The section needs to be retitled with the "Stay safe" header, and the information needs to be toned down and made more relevant for travelers. -- Wrh2 03:56, 30 Jul 2005 (EDT)
Does this article really have any merit to it at this point? Just breezing through the article, it sounds an awful lot like someone that doesn't really care for where they have to live because they are dependant on their parents. I can't see too much in here that is useful to a traveller. I don't find sentences like "...younger students who need to transfer are about to be fucked royally," to be a helpful point when deciding where I'd like to visit in California. -- Ilkirk 12:03, 30 Jul 2005 (EDT)
OK, I declare a do-over. I've moved the previous version to Talk:Santa Rosa/First try, and we can take another shot on Santa Rosa. Let's put some elbow grease in and make this a worthwhile article. --Evan 12:24, 30 Jul 2005 (EDT)
Following Evan's lead I attempted to incorporate some of the ideas from the first version into the new, but made it decidedly more useful from a traveller's perspective. However, I know nothing about Santa Rosa so I can't put too much information about what places actually look/feel like. I'll poke around some more later. -- Ilkirk 13:35, 30 Jul 2005 (EDT)
I've updated the history, and Getting In section a bit in hopes of making this article usable. 09:54, 20 May 2010 (EDT)
I think the section about the police should be removed. Hopefully travellers to Santa Rosa are not planning on getting arrested. I don't think we need a safety section. But if we do, it should be used to talk about being safe from criminals rather than police. For instance, don't go in deserted areas of downtown at night. I will remove the section if there are no objections. If you have comments, please go to my talk page.
I can't speak about Santa Rosa in particular, but in general, I think we want to include information about dangers regardless of where they come from. If the police are a threat (again: I don't know about here), that should be noted. - Todd VerBeek 09:27, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
Well there have been incidences here of police using deadly force. However, none of these occurred over trivial situations. The criminals presented an immediate threat to the lives of others. The danger of the police here is about the same as that in other cities. If you raise a deadly weapon, the police will probably use force to keep you from carrying out your intent. It's kind of obvious. The police here don't just go around shooting rude tourists. The danger is so small, it is practically non-existant for law-abiding citizens.
We could find warnings to issue about just about anything. I just read an article the other day about a man at a drive through fast food restaurant who opened up his burger and found that the employees had spat on it. But this doesn't mean that we should issue a warning for all people eating burgers at that chain's restaurants to look inside their burgers.
By the way, the employees were fired, as would be any police officer who committed a violent crime. And I don't recall any instances of SR police officers being prosecuted for using their guns.
Todd was saying "if it's true, leave it in even if it is trivial" but that he doesn't know Santa Rosa well enough to judge. I live close enough to Santa Rosa to say it has no special reputation regarding the Police, so I've remove the section. -- Colin 17:47, 11 June 2007 (EDT)