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This article was the Collaboration of the week between 14 November 2006 and 4 December 2006.


I'm so impressed with the way this article is progressing! Excellent job adding information and excellent job getting it into our preferred format. Good show all around! --Evan 23:01, 12 Mar 2004 (EST)

I can only agree with Evan on this, and say that it's going to be very useful for me since I'm planning to go there in July/August. One question: the international airport used to be called Galeão. On this site it's called Galeão (Antonio Carlos Jobim International Airport). Has it changed names or are both used now? Dhum Dhum Akubra 03:47, 13 Mar 2004 (EST)
The airport was originally called Galeão, and renamed about 10 years ago. I don't know which is official, but I would think locals use both. And I would make a guess that like most renamings, the older, shorter one has stuck. - - Paul Richter 01:41, 1 Apr 2004 (EST)



The airport is still called by its old name by the local people. It is normally outsiders who call it by its new name. Brazilian politicians enjoy changing names of roads, places, etc, to praise someone they like which can become very confusing. The official tag for the airport continues to be GIG.
All the best,
Robert Martim


most road signals are placed after the curve you were supposed to take
Do you mean "most road signs are placed after the exit you were supposed to take"? -phma 00:10, 18 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Inacuracy[edit]

I deleted this part here:

"Brazilian (or at least carioca) men have a curious shopping custom that will delight female and gay tourists - shirts are tried-on right at the counter, not in a changing room. This can create some confusion to the uninitiated male tourist, as the store clerk will instead of leading you to a changing room, motion you to change right there. Of course, if you are a typical flabby American, you will likely elicit more giggles than delight..."

From the "buy" section because it's just not true.


I also corrected some small inacuracies and cut out some untrue parts.

201.5.155.238 17:14, 23 March 2008 (EDT) Rafael Alves.


Usable[edit]

I'm still trying to get a feel for the 'states' but I really think this is closer to a 'Guide' than something like Essen which qualifies as a "usable" article. I'm not saying it doesn't need some details filled in, but it seems more fleshed out than just 'usable'... comments? Majnoona 22:39, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)

Maj, I think everyone is still trying to get a feel of the ratings. I belive the point of the Guide status is to have a erm...guide that can be used as primary and sole source of information. With a Guide article, you wouldn't normally need to resort to other sources, even if it's some internet search or asking the locals for precise directions. In that sense, I see Rio still at usable status - you can certainly get in and find some accommodation (if you're lucky enough, as listings are too short), but would still have a hard time finding attractions and sights by yourself, let alone choosing what to see, because most attractions haven't been described yet. In other words, listings do not yet "closely match the Manual of Style". Or am I being too picky? Rmx 06:49, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

renaming to Rio de Janeiro[edit]

I think this article should be moved to "Rio de Janeiro" and shouldn't be "Rio de Janeiro (city)". The city is far more famous than the state. -- Ronald 17:29, 6 March 2006 (EST)

riotour web site[edit]

I removed several links and replaced the "official link" (external link on first mention of the name) with what actually appears to be the official rio web site (http://www.rio.rj.gov.br/). I can't find mention of the riotour site on the main site, despite the spammer's claim of it being official. If I'm in error, please advise (and cite). Jordanmills 12:35, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

Zona Oeste[edit]

First the short description of Zona Oeste " * Zona Oeste (West Zone), a suburban area including primarily the districts of Jacarepaguá and Barra da Tijuca, popular for its beaches." Was literally copied and pasted in from this article (https://www.amazines.com/article_detail.cfm?articleid=233908) I am going to do some research and change the line completely because hacking someone else work is not what wikitravel is about. Second - I would love to get the district page up and going, but I am not finding much out there, does anyone have any suggestions?Trew 17:08, 7 October 2008 (EDT)Trew

Reorganising Rio[edit]

Although there is a vast amount of info here I think it needs restructuring. There is too much duplication between the main page and Zona Sul, for example and lots of repetition everywhere. The normal practice is to list hotels under districts not the main page and to use the main page to give a brief summary of sights, listing them in the district articles. See Chicago as an excellent example and Rome as an example of one that is getting there (slowly!). Any volunteers? Shep 20:50, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

Me again. Does Rio really need district articles? There is not so much in most of them and they could be merged back into one main article. 95% of the hotels are in Zona Sul. I've just been looking at Cape Town. Excellent presentation of Guide quality without the need for separate sections?Shep 12:57, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

I have begun some serious work on these articles, beginning with Centro, adding details and places that are simply missing. If you have ever been to RJ, you know that it unquestionably needs district articles, perhaps even more than the four we have now. I will continue to work with the four we have so far, and we'll see how full they get. The fact is that there is simply a lot of stuff that has never been added. Anyway, I'm going to work on filling up the district articles first, and then we can go back and rewrite the main page. Texugo 00:28, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
You put me to shame. I should have started this ages ago. I shall follow what you are doing with interest. The problem with more district articles is that (1) this would probably involve breaking Zona Sul into two parts (north of the tunnel to Copocabana and south?)and (2) that outside Zona Sul and Centro there are lots of restaurants, shopping centers, etc. but not that much to attract the tourist and I feel that District articles need to have a fair balance of attractions. Wikitravel on Rio gets updated almost daily. If you haven't already, take a look. I suggested once that there should be a Wikitravel Conference along the lines of Wikipedia meetings. Perhaps Rio would be a great place to start? Anyway, good luck.Shep 15:18, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
I don't necessarily agree with the need for all district articles to be perfectly balanced, since different areas have different characters. Having an abundance of unique, interesting Eat or Drink listings could be as much of a draw as having an abundance of See or Do listings, if one is there long enough to really get to know the city rather than just to do the touristy things (I spent five weeks in RJ on my last Brazil trip). Forcing balance could sometimes cause an unnatural jumble of listings that are too distant from one another. That said, at this point I still don't think Rio needs any more or less than the four districts we already have.
By the way, I believe Wikitravel gatherings have occurred in the past, though I'm not sure where the place for discussion is and I haven't been to one. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend any in the near future unless perhaps it ends up being here in East Asia. Maybe you should bring it up in the pub though. Texugo 22:33, 29 March 2010 (EDT)

Understand section[edit]

Does anyone still think of Rio as Brazil's capital? I suggest we delete the first line of Understand. Or at least delete "common". Shep 14:49, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

As far as I know, it is still a common misconception, at least among people who have never traveled abroad. Texugo 22:41, 1 April 2010 (EDT)


Please[edit]

Please make no change like [1] We are Brazilian, and we are not American. We do not spell words like America.

Eu concordo
I'm not saying you are American any more than you are saying you are British. I teach at FISK and my Brazilian girlfriend is a school teacher, so I am positive that there is absolutely no standard way of spelling English in Brazil. There is a mix of both spellings, leaning heavily towards American spelling-- Except for Cultura Inglesa, practically all the English schools (FISK, Wizard, etc.) and practically all public schools teach with American spelling. While you two (if you are two separate people) may have learned British spelling, it is definitely not a "standard way". As in this case, when a non-English-speaking country has no clearly preferred spelling, Wikitravel tells us to leave the articles as written, which in the case of almost all the Brazil articles, is American English. I'm going to revert it back to the status quo again, where it should stay. If you have further arguments, please present them here and don't go making changes in the articles without consensus. Texugo 10:14, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

Gay Travel[edit]

I disagree that Rio is a gay travel hub. While yes there are very attractive men there its not a gay destination. There have been many instances of gays being attacked in Rio. There is maybe ONE gay club in Rio and a gay friendly portion of ipanema beach. —The preceding comment was added by Starnexus (talkcontribs)

The page should be protected for a while, there's this childish dumb homophobic idiot who writes about antibiotics and Aids. It's getting boring. 187.36.106.137 21:21, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

The page was saying that "sodomy is illegal in Brazil". First, "sodomy" is a stupid term and, second, the statement is plain wrong. Deleted it, and in its stead, put information on gay discos and saunas, the existence of a gay section of the beach in Ipanema, and a link to a LGBT Rio website, in English, with plenty more of information.

UPDATE

I updated this page, I'm Brazilian and I know that some places such restaurants don't exist more, moved or change phone number. Best wishes, Glaucia Perry

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