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Regions[edit]

The regions here are a mess, and there is considerable overlap. Would someone familiar with the area please try to sort this out. --Peter Talk 01:21, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

I think that a big part of this problem is that New Zealand regions are defined in different ways by different agencies. Each agency seems to have their own way of splitting up New Zealand, for their own purposes. These are based on the geographic areas served by those various agencies. - Huttite 19:42, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
For example 
  • Local Government NZ has the following regional names in the North Island [1]: Northland, Auckland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Taranaki, Manawatu - Wanganui, Wellington.
  • The tourism industry tend to divide the North Island up this way [2][3][4]: Northland, Auckland, Coromandel, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Rotorua, Eastland, Taupo, Ruapehu, Taranaki, Hawke's Bay, Wanganui, Manawatu, Wairarapa, Wellington.
  • Central government uses a range of definitions for regions. Perhaps the most relevant is that Statistics New Zealand collect tourism statistics, on behalf of the Ministry of Tourism, for these North Island regions [5]: Northland, Auckland, Waikato, Bay of Plenty, Hawke's Bay-Gisborne, Taranaki-Wanganui-Manawatu, Wellington.

Suggested regions[edit]

Is this regional breakdown better? - Huttite 19:42, 18 October 2009 (EDT) :

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I think these regions are generally OK, my only big concern is getting rid of and splitting the Central North Island region. Lake Taupo and Tongariro/Ruapehu are fairly major tourist destinations from what I recall when I lived there, and they have more in common with each other (geographically, reasons for why tourists would go there) than they would with Bay of Plenty and the other regions in the proposed Western North Island. I'd prefer to keep them in one region and maybe rename it to Lake Taupo-Tongariro or Lake Taupo-Ruapehu.
A lesser concern is the "Eastern North Island" name. Hawke's Bay is another common tourist destination, so, given that we use local names pretty much everywhere else, I'd prefer to give it the same prominence in the region name. Maybe Hawkes Bay-East Coast, or something like that.
Regions in the North Island
Building on Huttite's proposed regions, I'd prefer to see the following (I've included subregions as well to try to give more definition):
Northland
Promote the sub-subregions up one level so they link directly to Northland (I don't think there are enough subregions to warrant two layers). This will produce:
Auckland Region
The Auckland supercity. How it's organized needs to be sorted out, but that can be discussed on its Talk page.
Waikato-Coromandel
(note - the region name is different so we don't end up with a Waikato subregion underneath a Waikato main region.
Bay of Plenty
The existing region with no subregions (although if we get sufficient articles some day East and West subregions could be done). Lake Taupo and the Volcanic Plateau pages should not link here.
Central North Island (or Lake Taupo-Tongariro)
The existing region with no subregions. The Lake Taupo and Volcanic Plateau pages should be redirected here. We may want to merge Mount Ruapehu with Tongariro National Park as well (it's mostly part of the park). You could also make a case to include Rotorua in this region rather than Bay of Plenty, but I'm not fussed either way.
Hawke's Bay-East Coast (or Eastern North Island)
Wellington Region
Taranaki
The existing region with no sub-regions.
Wanganui-Manawatu
This would be an amalgamation of the Wanganui (region), Manawatu and Horowhenua regions. Other than Manawatu there aren't many cities/towns in the area, so I don't think we need subregions (Howowhenua is pretty small and can easily be included in Manawatu, while Wanganui is quite distinct and covers a lot of area but is sparsely inhabited).
Alternatively, Taranaki and Wanganui-Manawatu could also be combined into one region (Southwestern North Island) with those two articles as subregions (or don't amalgamate Wanganui (region) and Manawatu and put all them with Taranaki under SW North Island).
This leaves eight or nine regions. I'll upload a map that shows most of the top level regions and some of the subregions. It doesn't correspond to what I proposed exactly, but it should be close enough to give an idea of how things fit together. - Shaund 19:53, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
On further reflection, I agree with Huttite's regions... but not some of the names so much. Proposed names, region map and subregions are below. - Shaund 01:01, 9 August 2011 (EDT)

Regions re-summarized[edit]

Here are the proposed regions:

Proposed regions for the North Island (draft map)
Northland (Far Far North, Hokianga, Bay of Islands, Waipara)
Auckland Region
The Auckland supercity, including the Hauraki Gulf Islands
Waikato-Coromandel (Waikato, Coromandel Peninsula, King Country)
Rotorua and the Bay of Plenty
The Bay of Plenty, Rotorua and Taupo (including the northern part of the Lake Taupo area. The Lake Taupo region would be redirected here.
Hawkes Bay-East Coast (East Cape, Hawkes Bay, Tararua)
The east coast of the North Island, including the cities of Gisborne, Napier and Hastings
Southwestern North Island (Taranaki, Wanganui (region), Ruapehu, Manawatu)
Note - Volcanic Plateau would be renamed "Ruapehu" to create the Ruapehu region. The other regions already exist. Horowhenua would be redirected to Manawatu.
Wellington and the Lower North Island (Wellington, Hutt Valley, Wairarapa, Kapiti Coast)
Note - essentially the Greater Wellington article

Let me know if you have any thoughts. If I don't hear any objections, I'll implement later in the month. -Shaund 01:22, 9 August 2011 (EDT)

Cities[edit]

I trimmed the number of cities listed here to nine, but also took out some of the regional cities and replaced them with smaller towns/villages that travellers will visit. So, places like Whangarei, Wanganui and Palmerston North were cut and Paihia, Taupo and Waitomo added. If you disagree or think other places should be added/dropped, please discuss here. -- Shaund 00:36, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

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