For me (resident of the UK, visited the area several times), this sounds like an artificial description of the area. The vast majority of people would talk about the North East. For me, Northumbria is just Northumberland and Newcastle/Sunderland.
I would suggest moving the article to North East. What do other people think? DanielC 23:38 (GMT) 24 Mar 2005
I think that Northumbria should be a subregion of North East (England), with all the other places shown as well. Although the local tourist board may have resurrected Northumbria, it is obviously not the same as Northeastern England but a specific region within it. Wikitravel regions can nest one upon another, several (or many) layers deep. If Northumbria is being promoted as a region to visit, especially if it has a tourist board website, then there probably should be a separate article about it. Even if the article pretty much indicates that this is just the region the tourist board has defined and is promoting, it gives those people who think a business in the promoted area somewhere to list. Besides, if it is not listed here now, while it is still small, someone will eventually go to the trouble to break this page up in the future. -- Huttite 06:38, 18 Apr 2005 (EDT)
As there is so much overlap between the two, I would have thought what we have now (a redirect from Northumbria to the North East) works OK - it avoids confusing duplication DanielC 07:37, 18 Apr 2005 (EDT)
Tyne & wear and Cleveland were abolished as administrative counties in 1996. I believe the areas of Middlesbrough and Redcar now have their own unitary authorities and are now part of the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire. Its ridiculous that Middlesbrough is in Yorkshire but not part of the "Yorkshire and Humber" region!!
Can you please stop using the 1974 administrative counties please?
Furthermore, "Tyne & Wear" is now further divided into "Gateshead", "Newcastle", "North Tyneside", "South Tyneside" and "Sunderland". Tyne and Wear is now only used as the postal county, in terms of administrative measures there is no longer a Tyne & Wear.