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This is sweet. Great start, anonymous contributor! --Evan 12:30, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)


Whoa. New Jersey is the most densely populated state in the US? I used to live in New Jersey and that one's a shocker. Goodralph 03:09, 7 Jul 2004 (EDT)

yo, there are two cities listed as being the largest in the state. how is that possible?

Dividing New Jersey[edit]

This needs to be divided into 4-5 regions by someone who knows the state. --Ravikiran 06:51, 25 Jan 2006 (EST)

The official tourism site [1] divides the state into the following six regions.
Should I skip the "Region" at the end of the region name? The names look odd without the region at the end. --Ravikiran 09:06, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)
On further research, I find that the region names have been used without a "region" at the end. I will skip them for all except Delaware river region, and I will put disambiguators for Gateway and Shore, just in case.

This is how it will be. --Ravikiran 13:42, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)


I'm not sure I've ever heard that area called the Delaware River Region, but I can't be certain. The only reason I say that is because the Delaware River goes up and up through the Lehigh Valley and the Coal Region. the source of the river is actually in upstate new york, according to the Delaware Valley region of Pennsylvania, these counties are part of that, too. so, go figure how to fix that, because the "ispartof" code will start placing new jersey counties in pennsylvania if it's the same region. Similarly, Phillipsburg, NJ is considered both Skylands and Lehigh Valley in PA. Sounds like a problem for the committee. Jargas 07:48, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

Talk[edit]

Nobody from New Jersey ever says "joisey:" That's a lower class Brooklyn pronunciation.


The authentic New Jersey accent can be heard in the speech of natives like politician-turned-broadcaster Steve Adubato and Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito.

Took that out for ya.--Wandering 12:49, 28 May 2008 (EDT)
I added that some New Jerseyans can get offended if you make a joke about "new joisey". It's true. I'm one of them. Jargas 07:20, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

I used to live in New Jersey - there are TWO distinct accents - North Jersey (influenced by New York) and South Jersey (influenced by Philadelphia). Looks to me like the "Talk" area was written by some guys from "North Joisey" and almost insulting the people living in South Jersey. "Authentic New Jersey accent" indeed... gamweb 14:41, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

The back and forth over "Joisey" strikes me as odd. My paternal family is from the state, and they joke about Joisey/Juhsey accents and the mob (i.e., the state government) frequently. More to the point—when the heck did Jersey folk start taking themselves so seriously? Perhaps a step back from that "etiquette" section (should be respect, and btw the word "etiquette" seems humorous when talking about the state). I've found the only thing that ticks off New Jerseyans is to act pretentious, tell them that they live there instead of NYC only because they "have to," or to lecture them on the economics of self serve gas stations. --Peter Talk 00:27, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Understand[edit]

Someone has noted that in New Jersey "some parts are troublesome to reach even by car." It would be most helpful for travelers if you would specify which locations you're referring to, state the nature of the difficulty, and perhaps offer a tip for overcoming that problem, e.g., "arrive before 6 am," or whatever.

I took that out. NJ has a very high density wrt roads and it makes no sense to say that. --Wandering 10:12, 5 June 2008 (EDT)


I proofread a lot of stuff[edit]

I probably can't remember all that I've done.

I made a number of edits for clarity and to fix typos, I said the thing about "new joisey" being offensive to native New Jerseyans (mentioned above on this page, as well), I personally find myself saying "New Juhzzey", and I hear that a bit, so I added that in addition to "Jerzey" like it was on there. I also added "Howyadooin..." as a typical greeting. Everybody I know at the store I work at says that to me every day. It's funny, even to me, because I can't stop it without quite a lot of effort. Maybe I should take out the exclamation point, because when I hear myself saying it, I try to keep the dooin from becoming too weird, so I kind of keep my voice down at the end of the word. It really does sound like the Sopranos. Speaking of them, i mentioned that some people get offended by the Sopranos. Not many people I know are really bothered by it, but I've heard stories of older people, and other politicians trying to look good going on crusades. They actually do have a point, to some degree.

Also, why is the city of cape may and some of it's attractions listed in the "Jersey Shore", and the county of Cape May, which is practically empty, is listed in "Southern Shore" region? that's all I can think of for the moment, I look forward to contributing more Jargas 07:34, 23 July 2008 (EDT) ps, I changed my sig to jargas, though a lot of my edits will come up as Kire1975. I'm still trying to figure this out. cheers, Jargas 07:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

I understand the regions are from the state's tourist website, but I'm not sure they correspond very closely to the actual situation on the ground. At least as a South Jersey native, they don't make sense to me. The "Southern Shore" region, in particular, baffles me. Cape May county, with its Atlantic-facing beach resort towns, has muceh more in common with Atlantic and Ocean counties than with Cumberland, which, facing the Delaware Bay with a shoreline composed mostly of marshes, is not a popular tourist destination. Cumberland and Salem counties make much more sense together, as they have seen the least incursion of development from either Philadelphia or the Shore, and so preserve a rural old-South-Jersey environment.
I understand the convenience of using the tourist bureau's divisions, and there is something to be said for the official legitimacy that such a state organ brings to this always abitrary process, but in this case the tourist regions do not match reality. They can be mentioned in the article, but I do not think they ought to be given such an important place. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.135.208.120 (talkcontribs)
I'm rather unimpressed with this regional breakdown as well. How would you propose we alter the regional hierarchy then? Bearing in mind that we do need well-defined boundaries for each region, so that it is clear where things go. --Peter Talk 16:26, 13 May 2009 (EDT)

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