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Talk:Luxor/Western Valley

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  • The Theban Mapping Project - combining the Atlas of the Valley of the Kings and the Atlas of the Theban Necropolis in a vast, award-winning Flash-based presentation - an amazing resource for the visitor

That page is cool so the geek in me can't delete it entirely. -- Nils 04:41, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)

There's no need to delete it at all! The Theban Mapping Project includes documentation for the Western Valley - the links are not completely intuitive, I admit, but I have contacted Nicole Hansen of the TMP and she has said she'll look into improving them..... In the meantime, I'm gonna put the link back in place! Pjamescowie 06:49, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
In my eyes it definitely falls under the "other guide" rule, and should be removed. -- Nils 08:59, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
Yeh, well it is a guide - of sorts - but an academic one, not another travel guide..... the TMP contains a load of useful information that is really not part of Wikitravel's scope - why not leave it in place for people to access should they want to? Pjamescowie 12:47, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
It is a secondary source. Read the external link policy. I'm removing it again from the article. If you still disagree, please discuss the external link policy before readding it. -- Nils 15:37, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
I do disagree. The TMP website is the closest thing you're going to get at the moment to a factual, commercially-disinterested guide to the tombs - at a level of detail which we probably wouldn't want to or couldn't replicate in Wikitravel..... As the TMP is officially documenting the Theban necropolis with the support and encouragement of the Egyptian government authorities, how precisely does this represent a secondary source? It's not a travel guide, it simply presents the facts about the tombs in a very effective way...... As a professional Egyptologist and frequent visitor to Egypt, I think I'm on fairly safe ground here - I'm reinstating it! - please leave it in or invite arbitration. Pjamescowie 17:51, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
I do not care what you think. That website is run by some university, I can not find any information on their about page that states in clear letters that they are THE official source for information on teh valley and authorized as such by the Egyptian government. Ergo they deserve no mention on the article page. There are hundreds of webpages out there that are great sources of information for any traveller. And everybody has some favorites that just are "too valuable to not be listed". We are not building a web catalogue. The TMP is the kind of link that is great for WikiPedia, but it has no place in WikiTravel. As I said before, if you do not agree with the policy, then start a discussion and have people change it. Until that happens, the TMP shall not be listed on the article page. If it contains information you feel should be in the article, then add that informaion to the article. -- Nils 18:31, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
And a PS: I told you to start a discussion before readding it. How dare you take the right for yourself to ignore this request, then demand the same of me? You have quite some nerve. -- Nils 18:45, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)
And a second PS: The style of the description of the external link also fits the definition of advertisement / spam in my eyes. -- Nils 18:48, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)

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