It is unfair to have ANY accommodation listed on the main Lombok page. Either the "sleep" section should include all sleep accommodations or none. Senggigi/Mansit is a big enough area to include The Oberoi Lombok, and * Hotel Tugu Lombok and The Anandita. As the Kuta area expands with the new airport, all of the tourist locations must be changed to something like:"Greater Kuta" "Seketong", "Greater Senggigi", etc. Therefore, I put the Oberoi, et. al. into the Senggigi subsection.
It doesn't make sense to repeat all of the other sections such as "Getting There", etc. are repeated in each sub-area of Lombok. BenJohnson
I would like to add a link to "Lombok by Bicycle 2004", http://users.chariot.net.au/~gloria/indonesia.htm
but I don't yet know how ! Any advice for a new user ?
Use ~~~~ to sign your comments. Maj, explained this on your talk page for future reference. - Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 02:32, 18 June 2006 (EDT)
--- tks Sapphire ..here goes >> Textbot 02:41, 18 June 2006 (EDT)
No point listing places that are closed... Jpatokal 00:12, 25 November 2007 (EST)
Still closed but has a new owner and is currently under renovation (oct 2009)
The link for cycling in Lombok returns a permission denied when I click on it. Has the status changed since the add?
Good work on the Lombok articles
Some excellent work on the main Lombok article and Senggigi in the past 24 hours. This has been done by an anonymous user on roaming Speedy IP 184.108.40.206. Whoever you are, would be good if you registered here as this same IP is being used by others also. Really good work and please keep it up! --Burmesedays 21:46, 7 October 2009 (EDT)
Structure of the Lombok Articles
(moved from Talk:Senggigi)
Structural proposal from Felix505 for this article and others in Lombok
Felix, you are dead right with your understanding of official administrative divisions. I don't see how that is appropriate for a travel guide though? And it would massively over-complicate I think. Do you think you could write fully developed articles for each of those 30 odd locations you mention, plus the 4 regional guides for each of 4 regions you propose, bearing in mind the comments about what goes where and repetition etc on your talk page? I think the current structure of Lombok as a region and then each destination as simply that, is more advisable. By all means add more destinations, but when doing so bear in mind that:
Once again, I must thank you for all your efforts and please keep it up. --Burmesedays 23:11, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
content for region pages (current limitations)
Sorry -Burmesedays- I did of course see your comments on issues of lack of suitable content for 4 region pages. I am just trying to get some sense into the region structure as a starting point. I think one of my main points here at is the need to consider doing a Tangung page in the immediate future as this situation of Senggigi being used as a generic term for the west coast needs to be fixed and Tangung/Pemenang area really does deserve it's own identity. Later maybe the south has to be looked at with some urgency due to the airport looming up. //Felix-
Implement the Lombok regional structure
As per Felix505's suggestion let's try a regional structure as follows:
I will put this into place today but have other Wikitravel priorities at the moment, so others will need to assign the destinations to each region and write the articles. Best of luck. --Burmesedays 22:58, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
Taxi pane info regional discriptions and notes on Dengue Fever Outbreak jan 2010
I have been a bit unwell and also very busy so have not been able to further the process described above. However I am going to try and pay it some attention over the next few weeks as time permits. Today I intend to at least try to update the airport taxi pane with the current zone rates. All my airport drive-by or visits have not afforded the opportunity to get a copy of the current info until yesterday. Of course the list is too long to post as it would fill and entire page. There are 23 zones in all. I might try listing all 23 zones with an indicative destination applicable to each zone and then if anyone would like to give comments on culling down to a suitable list we can take it from there pre posting a final version. I will try and complete the blank pane as a starting point on upload that to the 'live' page. Then I will start work on the full 23 zones for a future possibly more comprehensive revision.
On a different topic I post here information current 26 january 2010 that Lombok is experiencing a serious (DHF) Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever outbreak.
The hospitals are full and it is VERY difficult to get a hospital bed and even more difficult to get a private room. Dengue fever is common in Lombok especially at this time of year. Dengue fever is a mosquito borne illness.
It is effecting the West Lombok tourism precincts and other regions. The problem has existed since at least mid-december.
I can speak with some authority on the current situation as I contracted it myself and it was very hard to get a hospital room or bed. Indeed I attempted to get into a hospital myself for several days and could not and eventually lapsed into unconsciousness with a temperatures peaking at 40C-41C and quite low blood platelet levels. Clearly I survived but a 16 year old nephew did not, he was discharged from hospital and died in his family home the next day. Currently I have two friends in hospital here. Accordingly I am aware of the current hospital situation, they are all overflowing and indeed I had to put one friend into a rapidly converted and emptied out office room as there was nothing else available in the hospital.
This is NOT a health crisis and there are no people lining corridors on Gurneys' or anything like that but it is however a serious health issue here at present. I certainly do not want to promote any 'Global War Against Common Sense' like panics here due to this post on the discussion page. This is just an annual outbreak of the same grinding mosquito borne diseas problems that occur throughout the tropics and most especially in the 3rd world.
Anyone already in Lombok or anywhere else in Indonesia and SE Asia or planning to visit there should exercise all normal anti-malarial precautions and use mosquito nets when sleeping and obtain mosquito repellent and use it appropriately. Indonesian Hospitals are usually very well qualified in treating Dengue as it is common throughout Indonesia as well as other tropical areas including SEAsia and northern Australia. Speedy medical intervention is recommended as the potential for severe dehydration and high fever is very dangerous. If diagnosed with DHF or suspected DHF I would recommend rapid local hospital admission to a good local hospital rather than repatriation as the trip home would require reasonably intensive medical supervision and be unnecessarily stressful for the patient. Pulmonary and Cerebral edema are possible complications of Dengue so a sufferer should seek rapid professional medical intervention. There is currently no 'cure' for DHF only medical assistance in mitigating complications. Delaying medical intervention should be avoided as prompt professional intervention significantly mitigates both the risks and the suffering of DHF.
If small bright red spots appear on the body, legs or arms seek immediate medical attention as this may indicate a DHF infection. They are readily distinguishable from insect bites or hives being of a dense red color and they are not normally raised with the skin remaining flat. There are several low grade viruses circulating in Lombok at present (probably arriving with tourists from the northern hemisphere) but they are not serious only lasting for a few days at the most with 'flu and cold' symptoms including a runny nose and headache. However if the symptoms are severe and involve an elevated and enduring fever then seek medical opinion to exclude the possibility of a DHF or Malaria infection.
In the case of severe fever high fluid intakes and electrolyte management is critical. Intravenous infusion of saline solution will assist a Dengue Fever sufferer and would be expected as normal in the treatment of confirmed or suspected Dengue fever. Confirmation is by way of Laboratory analysis of a fresh drawn blood sample. Paracetamol will reduce fever. The use of Aspirin and other NSAID's such as Ibuprofen and Naproxen should be avoided in cases of suspected or confirmed DHF.
Nursing care may be required for a serious case of DHF as the illness is often quite debilitating making it difficult for a patient to self manage or to care for themselves even in a hospital situation. The provision of a 24/7 personal carer is advised unless in a VERY high standard Hospital with plentiful, willing and available nursing staff. If your gums start bleeding rinsing with COLD water may assist.
Depressed Blood Platelet levels in Indonesia are described as 'Thrombos' (it should be over 150 in a normal healthy person, anything down around 100-135 is worrying and certainly requires immediate medical intervention). Blood Pressure (BP) is described as 'Tensi' in Indonesia. Fever is 'Panas' (literally this means -hot-). DHF fevers can reach 40C-41C. Dengue is pronounced 'Den-w e' and sometimes just referred to as "malaria" by local people although of course it is not Malaria but it is a 'Mosquito Borne Disease'. Antibodies-DHF: Anti Dengue Igm (Hasil-result will be negatif or positif) Blood Platelet [Thrombocytes] (PLT) or in Indonesia - [Thrombos] when within the normal range is 150-390…450. PLT under 150 (<150) suggests the presence of a medical problem requiring professional medical attention and that should be sought without delay. When seeking confirmation of (DHF) Dengue Hemorrhagic Fever both PLT and IgM results should be sought by laboritorium analysis to support the observation of supporting symptoms by a suitably qualified medical professional.
Caution is recommended for visiting Lombok at this time, however my personal view is that it is NOT presenting a sufficient reason for a normal healthy person to postpone a visit or to leave the region, just be careful and seek medical attention if suffering very severe body aches, headaches, and high fever. Vomiting and appetite loss may also occur with the onset of DHF but the vomiting is not normally serious or prolonged, appetite loss is however commonly prolonged and dietary intake needs both nursing/carer support and careful management .
Severe vomiting and diarrhoea would normally be attributed gasto-intestinal infections arising from food or water borne bacteria or viral contamination and are common with travellers throughout SE Asia.
Anyone already in Lombok or planning to visit should exercise all normal anti-malarial precautions, use mosquito nets or other mosquito control methods when sleeping, obtain mosquito repellent and use it appropriately.
Locally supplied Minyak Tawon has some insect repellent properties and is not considered poisonous. Indeed it is used medicinally and for treating cuts, abrasions and insect bites. Do not expose to mucous membranes and skin test prior to use. felix 01:36, 26 January 2010 (EST)
Thanks for letting me know I will have a look and see what user:whatsinaname has done. Great to see some input happening. Best wishes and maybe you can have a look over the taxi zone draft on the Talk page when I get the info up, I will get the basis info per (your) existing draft of destination list onto the main page asap though...cheers felix 02:08, 26 January 2010 (EST)
If a destination is missing and someone feels it is important to include it please put a note here and I will endeavour to find the destination on the 'official' list and add it on. felix 14:46, 26 January 2010 (EST)
The exercise of producing a Lombok region map went on the backburner, but I am now re-addressing this and will have a draft map ready soon based on the amended five region structure for the island. Sadly the free sources are not good and a lot of the minor roads will be missing.
--Burmesedays 10:31, 29 March 2010 (EDT)
I have noticed that the academic institution previously hosting SVEN CEDERROTH's article "From Ancestor Worship to Monotheism, Politics of Religion in Lombok" is not currently giving access to his article. As it is an article widely referenced in academic papers I imagine the problem is either temporary or that the article will reappear elsewhere. I have contacted the institution concerned with an enquiry and will update the link as information comes to hand. I have not edited the article to remove the link appearing in the culture section of the lombok article at this time as it may just be a temporary site problem at the university. felix 04:51, 12 July 2010 (EDT)
Lombok - transition to new international/domestic airport
Lombok's new international airport Bandara Internasional Lombok (BIL), (IATA: ---, ICAO: WADL) opened on 1 October 2011. The new airport in Praya has replaced operations at Selaparang International Airport in Mataram. Selaparang Airport was closed for airline operations on the evening of 30 September 2011.
I am working all today and into the night and may not be able to do a suitable transition on all the Lombok articles.
Due to the WT 'purge issues the new page versions are possibly not appearing.
As the current edits contain critical information for arriving and departing passengers it would be wonderful if IB can do something to ensure that only the current newly edited versions are appearing to readers.
I hope that someone at IB can assist with this.
I have sent an email containing the content of this note to dick.bradley@internetbrands dot comThanks--felix 07:08, 1 October 2011 (EDT)